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In Memory of 9/11

Brittanic States
11-09-2004, 07:00
**in remembrance of all those who lost their lifes on that dreadful day**
Stephistan
11-09-2004, 07:01
This is Pink Floyd's tribute to 9/11. Other then this, they have closed down their site until 9/12. Turn your speakers up. Of course what Pink Floyd tribute would be complete without their music.

Pink Floyd - Tribute To 9/11 (http://www.pinkfloyd-co.org/realaudio/pfco.wmv)

For all the debating we do on this forum, we I believe can all agree that on 9/11/01 we all stood in horror and shock on that day. Shock grew into disbelief , disbelief grew into anger and anger grew into a realization that things were no longer in our control. That the world had just become a lot more of a scary place then we had perhaps thought. That this could happen in our backyard. It drove people to do many things, the highlight of those things were that people came together, the worse of those things were people now lived in fear were they had not before. Today, I ask, as a huge anti-Bush advocate that we put aside our arguing and debate in memory of all the innocent people who died on 9/11.

Peace,
Stephanie.
Stephistan
11-09-2004, 07:04
**in remembrance of all those who lost their lifes on that dreadful day**

Hey, how did your post get above mine? I made the thread. How weird!
Dakini
11-09-2004, 07:04
pink floyd are still making music?
Brittanic States
11-09-2004, 07:05
Hey, how did your post get above mine? I made the thread. How weird!
Must be a sign from above that conservatives and liberals will forget their differences in this thread- if no where else ;)
Incertonia
11-09-2004, 07:06
This is Pink Floyd's tribute to 9/11. Other then this, they have closed down their site until 9/12. Turn your speakers up. Of course what Pink Floyd tribute would be complete without their music.

Pink Floyd - Tribute To 9/11 (http://www.pinkfloyd-co.org/realaudio/pfco.wmv)

For all the debating we do on this forum, we I believe can all agree that on 9/11/01 we all stood in horror and shock on that day. Shock grew into disbelief , disbelief grew into anger and anger grew into a realization that things were no longer in our control. That the world had just become a lot more of a scary place then we had perhaps thought. That this could happen in our backyard. It drove people to do many things, the highlight of those things were that people came together, the worse of those things were people now lived in fear were they had not before. Today, I ask, as a huge anti-Bush advocate that we put aside our arguing and debate in memory of all the innocent people who died on 9/11.

Peace,
Stephanie.Good idea. I'm in.
Stephistan
11-09-2004, 08:35
http://mindalena.com/tribute.jpg
BackwoodsSquatches
11-09-2004, 08:37
Hey, the link to the Floyd thing is broke.
Incertonia
11-09-2004, 08:38
I think it's also important to note that there were more than just Americans who died in those attacks. This was more than an American tragedy--it was a global tragedy.
The Island of Rose
11-09-2004, 08:39
Yes, because in the end, we are all human beings...

"This land is my land, this land is your land..."

Right.

Why do I think that OMG I HATE AMERICA people will invade this thread?
New Vinnland
11-09-2004, 08:42
Not to play down 9/11 or anything, but in other parts of the world things of this nature are a part of everyday life. Yet it seems to only be important or worth remembering when it happens to us.
Brittanic States
11-09-2004, 08:43
Yes, because in the end, we are all human beings...

"This land is my land, this land is your land..."

Right.

Why do I think that OMG I HATE AMERICA people will invade this thread?
I dont think they will- even If they are opposed to the Government of the day they probably are still saddened by the deaths on 9/11.
Stephistan
11-09-2004, 08:45
Hey, the link to the Floyd thing is broke.

It shouldn't be, I downloaded it just fine... hmm. If you have MSN and you telegram me your MSN I will send it to you. I also have yahoo chat too.
Brittanic States
11-09-2004, 08:46
Not to play down 9/11 or anything, but in other parts of the world things of this nature are a part of everyday life. Yet it seems to only be important or worth remembering when it happens to us.
The person who made this thread isnt American, and neither am I, I honestly dont think its only Americans who will be remembering the dead of 9/11 on this day.
BackwoodsSquatches
11-09-2004, 08:47
It shouldn't be, I downloaded it just fine... hmm. If you have MSN and you telegram me your MSN I will send it to you. I also have yahoo chat too.


Youve got mail.
The Island of Rose
11-09-2004, 08:51
I dont think they will- even If they are opposed to the Government of the day they probably are still saddened by the deaths on 9/11.

No, I mean they hate America period. They hate the people and everything. *cough "Gigatron" cough*

Anyway, I'll stop hijacking.
Bunnyducks
11-09-2004, 09:17
People who oppose usa vehemently can still remember 9/11 can't they? Of 1973. The ex-pats here have had candle remembrances for 31 years.
Lewkowski
11-09-2004, 09:23
Don't ever forget!


http://attacked911.tripod.com/
Ellezelles
11-09-2004, 10:14
I would also like you all to remember every other human being who died in other conflicts around the world.
Let us just think in the past; the Gulf war, more recent the war on terror in the Afghan region.
Let's just think a moment about the people of africa who are dying for no reason.

Don't you all ever forget that.
thx
Keruvalia
11-09-2004, 10:18
Art Spiegelman, most well known for the Pulitzer prize winning "Maus", has done a graphic novel depicting his experience in New York on 9/11.

It's called "In the Shadow of No Towers".

http://www.randomhouse.com/pantheon/graphicnovels/towers.html

I advise everyone find a copy.
Komokom
11-09-2004, 10:29
Hey, how did your post get above mine? I made the thread. How weird!I've seen that happen a few times lately, like the forums are a little buggy ...

* The Rep of Komokom briefly remembers :

That aside, I remember the night ( here in Australia, you see ) it started going wrong. I was just going to bed, when I heard my mother cry out " Oh my god, its not a movie " because the CNN footage had been so fantastic, so un-credible, that they had presumed that when they turned over to the first station to broad-cast the feed, it was one of those disaster movies they simply had not known was on that night ...

It was scary, not only because of the death or destruction that had already been created half the world away, but when in bed even later, trying desperately to forget for a while what we had seen and heard, and try to sleep, all we could really think about that night was " Will we ( Australia ) be next tonight ? " ...
Comandante
11-09-2004, 10:35
I had a bad memory too. I was getting ready to go to school, when my dad turned on the TV (we don't watch TV in the morning, at all, so this was really weird to begin with) and said, "The worst disaster in the history of America has just happened".

I watched, on live TV, both towers crumble, and the impact of the second plane. Disturbed? Who wouldn't be.
PellePimp
11-09-2004, 10:36
just dont forget the 227 massacre and 921 earthquake will ya.. as terrible or perhaps worse than 911
Monkeypimp
11-09-2004, 10:56
I was tempted to make one of these threads this morning when it was sept 11 here but not in most other places :P

It sucks balls that all those people had to die in such a horrible way.


To those who are rightfully pointing out that there have been much worse things happen: Feel free to make a thread about those on the day they happened, or any other time if you feel. Just because they were worse it doesn't take away from the horror of 11/9

11/9 - refuse to use the american date system :D
BackwoodsSquatches
11-09-2004, 11:44
"Look mummy, there's an aeroplane up in the sky"

Did you see the frightened ones?
Did you hear the falling bombs?
Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter when the
promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear blue
sky?

Did you see the frightened ones?
Did you hear the falling bombs?
The flames are all gone, but the pain lingers on.

Goodbye, blue sky
Goodbye, blue sky.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.

"The 11:15 from Newcastle is now approaching"
"The 11:18 arrival...."
Markodonia
11-09-2004, 16:38
Makeshift Patriot, by rapper Sage Francis, released for free on the internet a few days after the event:

Makeshift Patriot
The Flag Shop Is Out Of Stock
Hang Myself...Half Mast

Makeshift Patriot
The Flag Shop is Out of Stock
I hang myself...via live telecast

Coming live from my own funeral...the beautiful weather offered a nice shine
Which is suitable for a full view of a forever altered skyline
It's times like these I freestyle biased opinions every other sentence
My journalistic ethics slip when I pass them off as objective
"Don't gimme that ethical shit."
I've got exclusive, explicit images to present to impressionable American kids
And it's time to show this world how big our edifice is!

That's exactly what they attacked when a typically dark skinned Disney villain
Used civilians against civilians and charged the trojan horses into our buildings
Using commercial aviation as instruments of destruction
Pregnant women couldn't protect their children
Wheelchairs were stairway obstructions
Now I have to back petal...from the shower of glass and metal
Wondering how after it settles we'll find who provided power to radical rebels
The Melting Pot seems to be calling the kettle black when it boils over
But only on our own soil so the little boy holds a toy soldier..
And waits for the suit and tie to come home. We won't wait 'til he's older
Before we destroy hopes for a colder war to end
"Now get a close up of his head..."

Makeshift Patriot
The Flag Shop Is Out Of Stock
Hang Myself...Half Mast

Makeshift Patriot
The Flag Shop is Out of Stock
I hang myself while the stock markets crash

The city is covered in inches of muck
I see some other pictures of victims are up
Grieving mothers are thinking their children are stuck
Leaping lovers are making decisions to jump
While holding hands...to escape the brutal heat
Sometimes in groups of the three
The fall out goes far beyond the toxic cloud where people look like debris
But all they saw after all was said...beyond the talking heads
Was bloody dust with legs looking like the walking dead calling for meds
Hospitals are overwhelmed. volunteers need to go the hell home
Moments of silence for fire fighters were interupted by cell phones
Who's going to make that call to increase an unknown death toll?
It's the one we rally behind
He's got a megaphone...and he's promising to make heads roll
So we cheer him on, but asbestos is affecting our breath control
The less we know...the more they fabricate...the easier it is to sell souls
We're sellin addictive 24 hour candle light vigils in TV's
Freedom WILL be defended...at the cost of civil liberties
Viewers are glued to television screens
Stuck... cause lots of things seem too sick
I use opportunities to pluck heart strings for theme music

I'll show you which culture to punp your fist at and what foot is right to kiss
We don't know who the culprit is yet...but he looks like this
We know who the heros are. Not the xenophobes who act hard
"We taught that dog to squat.
How dare he do that shit in our own back yard!"

They happened to scar our financial state and char our landscape
Can you count how many times so far I ran back this same damn tape?
While a camera man creates news and shoves it down our throats on the West Bank
With a 10 second clip put on constant loop to provoke US angst

So get your tanks and load your guns and hold your sons in a family huddle
Because even if we win this tug of war and even the score...humanity struggles
There's a desperate need of blood for what's been uncovered under the rubble
Some of them dug for answers in the mess...but the rest were looking for trouble

Makeshift Patriot
The Flag Shop Is Out Of Stock
Hang Myself...Half Mast

Makeshift Patriot
The Flag Shop is Out of Stock
I hang myself, don't waive your rights with your flags

You can download it from their website:

http://www.non-prophets.com/media/audio.html
Jeruselem
11-09-2004, 16:50
A tragic day for all concerned but a signal to the US about the impact of it's foreign policies on the world.
Corneliu
11-09-2004, 17:10
September 11, 2001, a date that will go down in history next to Pearly Harbor.

People say that we only remember things when it happens to us. I guess the reason for this is that an attack on this scale is rare here in our country.

On this day 3 years ago, I was in a history class going through my lesson for the day then went to the student lounge to watch some NFL Highlights. When I got there, I saw the coverage and it did take my breath away. Since I saw only the coverage after the two planes hit, I didn't know what happened. After asking and being told that it was a terror attack, I looked at the screen and stated, "Well someone just started WWIII!"

On this day was really the only time that I was every speechless. I just stared at the TV Screen the entire day knowing that the US was at war once again. (please don't jump on me for that, that is what I was thinking)

September 11 to me will always be a day of remembrence for the terrible atrocity that was committed upon this country that I love so much. Never will I forget what I saw on TV! Never will I forget the panic that it caused! Never Forget the anger that I felt!

People say that this was our darkest hour. In this, they are right. It was America's darkest hour, but it was America's finest hour. A time where no one was Republican or Democrat! It was a time when we all realized that we are citizens in this nation. A time of unity not seen in a very long time. To me, the most memorable event would be seeing the American Flag that was still there when the towers came down. Yes it was leaning but it was still flying, just like in our national anthem "And our flag was still there"!

In conclusion, September 11 will be remembered for the tragic events but let us not forget the heros of 9/11! The tenets of the buildings that helped people down the steps and to help those in need. The Firefighters running up to try to put out the fires and to help evacuate the building. The police that helped the people as well as the port authority and the EMTs. Let us not forget the Passengers on Flight 93 that fought the terrorists and forced the plane to ditch in Shanksville PA. We must not forget the tragedy but also we should not forget the heros that saved alot of people.
Revolutionsz
11-09-2004, 17:39
People who oppose usa vehemently can still remember 9/11 can't they?

Yes they can....


http://www.4law.co.il/Lea101.jpg
Raishann
11-09-2004, 17:42
This is Pink Floyd's tribute to 9/11. Other then this, they have closed down their site until 9/12. Turn your speakers up. Of course what Pink Floyd tribute would be complete without their music.

Pink Floyd - Tribute To 9/11 (http://www.pinkfloyd-co.org/realaudio/pfco.wmv)


Just FYI, that is not the official Pink Floyd site--but it IS still the biggest Pink Floyd website on the planet, I think!
CRACKPIE
11-09-2004, 18:12
in memory of the 9/11 victims ( immediate family of mine among them) lets vow to vote for a candidate who wont let something like that happen again...Oh, wait...there are none...
Katganistan
11-09-2004, 18:16
I will remember the passengers who boarded those four planes, whether for business or for pleasure, and headed off never knowing that they would never see their families again.

I will remember the people who went to work that morning, some of them quite probably before their loved ones awoke, and never came back.

I will remember my students, who were panicked and trying to find out if their parents were alive or dead.

I will remember staying at school until 7pm, some of my colleagues overnight -- because with the city locked down and no public transport, we had to protect our students until their parents arrived to pick them up.

I will remember the parents arriving at school, hours later, still covered in ash, desperate to see their children.

I will remember my students, whose worst fears unfortunately came to pass.

I will remember my students, who as part of a school to work program, were IN the WTC when they were hit.

I will remember the nearly 400 firefighters, police officers, and EMTs who died trying to save others.

I will remember the burnt plane tickets and memos that dropped onto my house and yard that morning.

I will remember the concrete dust and ash we breathed for three months, and how I had to take my shoes and socks off when I got home and beat my socks out on the side of the steps before entering my home.

I will remember my niece waking up screaming about the hand that was coming to get her when she saw what was left of one of the victims in a photo in the newspaper.

I will remember the horror, the fear, the mourning, the rage and the healing....

Most of all, I will hope that it never happens to you.
Hamanistan
11-09-2004, 18:17
Its been three years everyone needs to move on.
NeLi II
11-09-2004, 18:18
Its been three years you need to move on.

I kind of agree.
Katganistan
11-09-2004, 18:20
I suppose if one of your parents had died, you would enjoy people telling you to get over it. It's callous and uncalled for.
Quadrocycle
11-09-2004, 18:21
if you move on you forget. If you forget you stop caring. When you stop caring it happens again. How would you like to be forgoten when you die? Can we ever forget the day the world changed? Because yes, this does happen in other countries, but the other countries dont do what the US did. We changed the world forever. The US has been changed forever. Never forget.
Hamanistan
11-09-2004, 18:22
I suppose if one of your parents had died, you would enjoy people telling you to get over it. It's callous and uncalled for.



I had family die in it and like I said, I moved on.
Leafeon
11-09-2004, 18:24
For all the debating we do on this forum, we I believe can all agree that on 9/11/01 we all stood in horror and shock on that day.
So, shouldn't we make every single day into a remembrance then?
There have been terror (war) on every single day in our common calendar. Days that have been much more harmful to people than September 11. "Innocent" people die every day and no matter how you look at this, the world has never been an unreal utopia.

Sure more that 50,000 individuals were touched by the events, but think about any war around the world. Som people have motives to murder civilians and if you cannot understand these motives you must be really narrow minded.


Note that I do not in any way disrespect people remembering the murder. All I want to say is that not everybody felt this "horror" and "shock".
NeLi II
11-09-2004, 18:26
Sure, remember the past, but try not to get fucking stuck in it.
Mikallah
11-09-2004, 18:50
Yes, because in the end, we are all human beings...

"This land is my land, this land is your land..."

Right.

Why do I think that OMG I HATE AMERICA people will invade this thread?

I hate America.
I dont particularily like terrorists much either tho.

If we forget it will happen again..?
How will remembering 9/11 stop it? 10 years from now, people will still be safe(er) from it happening again because of the policies in place, even if everyone forgets why these policies are there.

God bless Norway
Lewkowski
11-09-2004, 20:04
The reason we should never forget is so that we never back down an inch on the war of terror. Never forget this is an enemy that can not be negotiated it.

Europe has already forgotten WWII. They think that apeasement works, they think pacificism works, they think diplomacy works. No this is enemey that can only be confronted with unbridled used of military force.

You can look at what happens when people forget important historic events. Europe has already had a rise of racist jew bashing, how quickly they fail to rememeber the crimes of Germany. America, NEVER FORGET!
Hamanistan
11-09-2004, 20:09
The reason we should never forget is so that we never back down an inch on the war of terror. Never forget this is an enemy that can not be negotiated it.

Europe has already forgotten WWII. They think that apeasement works, they think pacificism works, they think diplomacy works. No this is enemey that can only be confronted with unbridled used of military force.

You can look at what happens when people forget important historic events. Europe has already had a rise of racist jew bashing, how quickly they fail to rememeber the crimes of Germany. America, NEVER FORGET!


The War on Terror is a waste of human life. No matter how long or how hard you fight terror will never be wiped out. So really there is no point fighting because it won't change anything.
Lewkowski
11-09-2004, 20:11
"
The War on Terror is a waste of human life. No matter how long or how hard you fight terror will never be wiped out. So really there is no point fighting because it won't change anything.
"

The War on Murder is a waste of human life. No matter how long or how hard you fight Murder, it will never be wiped out. So really there is no point fighting because it won't change anything. People will still murder others, it happens every year. I guess we should just legalize it.
Goed
11-09-2004, 20:14
Moving on and forgetting is NOT the same thing.

If you were there, or last family, then I understand doing something about it every year.

If not, draggin up the dead only disrupts their rest. They died so others could live-now do so.
Sarumland
11-09-2004, 20:22
"Whoever forgets history is condemned to repeat it"

Or something...


R.I.P the 63 British casualties of the 9/11 attacks. In fact, Rest In Peace all casualties, regardless of nationality.
Leafeon
11-09-2004, 20:22
The reason we should never forget is so that we never back down an inch on the war of terror. Never forget this is an enemy that can not be negotiated it.

Europe has already forgotten WWII. They think that apeasement works, they think pacificism works, they think diplomacy works. No this is enemey that can only be confronted with unbridled used of military force.

You can look at what happens when people forget important historic events. Europe has already had a rise of racist jew bashing, how quickly they fail to rememeber the crimes of Germany. America, NEVER FORGET!
Most of the germans who made "crimes" under WWII are dead. And their children should suffer for that?

And military force solves nothing. They thought it did in Vietnam and even though millions were killed, nothing happened.
Corneliu
11-09-2004, 20:24
"Whoever forgets history is condemned to repeat it"

Or something...


R.I.P the 63 British casualties of the 9/11 attacks. In fact, Rest In Peace all casualties, regardless of nationality.

Agreed here Sarumland
Virginian States
11-09-2004, 20:39
Here's a quasi-heartening story of 9/11:
My uncle lives in New York. He worked at the WTC as a coffee trader. Had been for years.

On that particular Tuesday, he was in Barcelona, Spain, for vacation- thousands of miles away from the disaster.

He is now the proud father of my two cousins, six and two years old respectively. Things don't get much luckier than that.
Mirkai
11-09-2004, 22:28
In memory of all those that lost their lives on 9/11 in the WTC, and all those who have died before them everywhere, and all those who continue to suffer through atrocities today.

http://www.oneposter.com/UserData/Poster/Poster_8396.jpg

Rest in Peace, and know that you will never be forgotten.
Goobergunchia
11-09-2004, 22:35
*bows head*

I'm not good at duplicating what others more eloquent than I have already stated, but I've got to concur with the above posts - we will always remember the tragedy that occured on 11 September 2001. I still remember that second period Theology class when the Dean of Students came on the loudspeaker and told us that two planes had hit the World Trade Center in New York, and the third period History class when the Twin Towers plunged down. It's still creepy, even now.

~Goobergunch
United Morgan
11-09-2004, 22:59
Not to play down 9/11 or anything, but in other parts of the world things of this nature are a part of everyday life. Yet it seems to only be important or worth remembering when it happens to us.

It always hurts more at home. This is why when a loved one passes away we grieve while a neighbour is sympathetic.
Helinland
11-09-2004, 23:06
My sympathies to the Chilean People, the Allende family and the WTC+Pentagon victims.