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The word 'gay' as an insult...

Southern Industrial
11-09-2004, 05:24
Could we please stop using the word 'gay' as an insult?
Colodia
11-09-2004, 05:25
I have no problem with gays, but I can't stop it.


Besides, I'm sure gay people call other things gay too...
Amerigo
11-09-2004, 05:27
Could we please stop using the word 'gay' as an insult?
Yes using the word gay as insult is very ghey.
Southern Industrial
11-09-2004, 05:28
I have no problem with gays, but I can't stop it.


Besides, I'm sure gay people call other things gay too...

Um, no, we don't.
Colodia
11-09-2004, 05:28
Um, no, we don't.
Well I don't speak for every Muslim and I'm sure you don't speak for every gay.
Big Jim P
11-09-2004, 05:30
The word "gay" means "happy"

I object to Homosexuals taking this word for themselves.
Die Viecherhaus
11-09-2004, 05:32
Yeah, but eliminating a word from slang takes a long time, Ideas about life are not easily forgotten, and in the past, being gay was viewed as an extremely bad thing, so today's slang reflects that. If you want it out of the mainstream, all it will take is time.
I respect people who are gay and do not really care, it is their life choice, let them be they way want to be, but slang terms cannot be pulled out of a mainstream by way of a simple request.
Southern Industrial
11-09-2004, 05:32
Well I don't speak for every Muslim and I'm sure you don't speak for every gay.

I'm not even gay, I'm bisexual, but I can tell you the time hasn't come for the reclaimation of that word.
Tuesday Heights
11-09-2004, 05:54
Could we please stop using the word 'gay' as an insult?

Especially since gay is a noun and the way it's used as an insult is a verb, which is incorrect gramatically.
Unfree People
11-09-2004, 05:59
Especially since gay is a noun and the way it's used as an insult is a verb, which is incorrect gramatically.
Eh? I think you mean adverb or an adjective, because "you gay; he gays; they gay" doesn't work in my head...
Tuesday Heights
11-09-2004, 06:02
Eh? I think you mean adverb or an adjective, because "you gay; he gays; they gay" doesn't work in my head...

Adjective. You're right. I'm tired.
Unfree People
11-09-2004, 06:24
Adjective. You're right. I'm tired.
Me too. Dunno what I'm still doing up.
Amerigo
11-09-2004, 06:27
Gay is not only a noun. Look it up... its also an adjective, so it is correct grammatically.
Kryozerkia
11-09-2004, 06:59
as in..."he's gay as a garden party!"
Grishnackhistan
11-09-2004, 08:29
Homophobia is an awful thing... and I oppose the use of "gay" as a derogative term. However, if people want to use it, I'm not going to impose upon their rights of free speech.
Incertonia
11-09-2004, 08:33
Me too. Dunno what I'm still doing up.It's Nationstates--what else are you gonna do? :D
Erinin
11-09-2004, 08:36
Could we please stop using the word 'gay' as an insult?
No.
Not until we stop using the word 'gay' to mean Homosexual.

If 'gay' does not equal 'insult'
Then Homosexual does not equal 'Happy' which is what 'gay' really means.
So until 'gay' isnt used incorrectly by one group, I will continue to use it incorrectly my own way.
The Gaza Strip
11-09-2004, 08:37
Could we please stop using the word 'gay' as an insult?

No.
New Fuglies
11-09-2004, 08:38
ughh, I hate that flipping word whether used pejoratively or not. We didn't ask for it. I know I sure as hell didn't. Want it? Have it! It has way too many connotations, none too good and mostly fed by stereotypes. It's bastardization by today's youth culture is not helping things either.

I'm a regular average guy who happens to be ughhh... gay, though when people hear the word they tend to think some other stuff like tranvestitism or the typical FLLLAAAAAAAAMING homosexual. I blame that lousy word for the fact I didn't crawl out of the closet 'til I was 26..AHHHHH!!!
The Black Forrest
11-09-2004, 08:39
Meh!

It's actually an improvement. When I was younger ;) the insults of choice was fag and faggot.

As someone said, it takes time.
New Fuglies
11-09-2004, 08:43
Doesn't matter if some PC think tank comes up with a new word. It'll get turned into crap by the idiot brigade. Personally, I like Spartan. :)
Suicidal Librarians
11-09-2004, 16:11
I hate it when people say, "That is so gay!" My friend used to say it all the time and it didn't even make much sense when she used it. All the time I would turn to her and say, "How is that gay?"
Reltaran
11-09-2004, 16:20
"Could we please stop using the word 'gay' as an insult?"

No.


I blame that lousy word for the fact I didn't crawl out of the closet 'til I was 26..AHHHHH!!!

What a fucking pussy.
Hakartopia
11-09-2004, 16:31
What a fucking pussy.

That'll show people you're a big boy for sure.
Jeruselem
11-09-2004, 16:35
From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Gay

Noun
1. gay - someone who practices homosexuality; having a sexual attraction to persons of the same sex
homo, homosexual
human, individual, mortal, person, somebody, someone, soul - a human being; "there was too much for one person to do"
gay man, shirtlifter - a homosexual man
gay woman, lesbian, tribade - a female homosexual

Adj.
1. gay - bright and pleasant; promoting a feeling of cheer; "a cheery hello"; "a gay sunny room"; "a sunny smile"
cheery, sunny
cheerful - being full of or promoting cheer; having or showing good spirits; "her cheerful nature"; "a cheerful greeting"; "a cheerful room"; "as cheerful as anyone confined to a hospital bed could be"
2. gay - full of or showing high-spirited merriment; "when hearts were young and gay"; "a poet could not but be gay, in such a jocund company"- Wordsworth; "the jolly crowd at the reunion"; "jolly old Saint Nick"; "a jovial old gentleman"; "have a merry Christmas"; "peals of merry laughter"; "a mirthful laugh"
jocund, jolly, jovial, merry, mirthful
joyous - full of or characterized by joy; "felt a joyous abandon"
3. gay - given to social pleasures often including dissipation; "led a gay Bohemian life"; "a gay old rogue with an eye for the ladies"
indulgent - showing or characterized by or given to indulgence; "indulgent grandparents"
4. gay - brightly colored and showy; "girls decked out in brave new dresses"; "brave banners flying"; "`braw' is a Scottish word"; "a dress a bit too gay for her years"; "birds with gay plumage"
braw, brave
colorful - striking in variety and interest; "a colorful period of history"; "a colorful character"; "colorful language"
5. gay - offering fun and gaiety; "a gala ball after the inauguration"; "a festive (or festal) occasion"; "gay and exciting night life"; "a merry evening"
festal, festive, gala, merry
joyous - full of or characterized by joy; "felt a joyous abandon"
6. gay - homosexual or arousing homosexual desires
homophile, queer
homosexual - sexually attracted to members of your own sex
Nirouar
11-09-2004, 16:36
Um, no, we don't.

Way to speak on behalf of every gay person everywhere... :rolleyes:
Sdaeriji
11-09-2004, 16:36
"Could we please stop using the word 'gay' as an insult?"

No.




What a fucking pussy.

Aww, a bit of projection?
TheGreatChinesePeople
11-09-2004, 16:38
My friend's brother is gay, and he calls other things gay too...(like an insult)

I dunno why... oh well...
Zervok
11-09-2004, 16:40
I hate to say this, but if you want people to stop calling people gay you need to find another scapegoat. I mean in the old days basterd was omg, a horrible insult. Today people who would tecnically be basterds arent even called that. Start making ape or bacterium an insult and maybe it catch on.
Rawrz
11-09-2004, 16:47
I hate it when people use 'gay' as an insult, too. But like someone else said, I don't want to stop people's freedom of speech.
Bodies Without Organs
11-09-2004, 16:53
Yeah, but eliminating a word from slang takes a long time, Ideas about life are not easily forgotten, and in the past, being gay was viewed as an extremely bad thing, so today's slang reflects that.

Yes, true, but the fact that there were hundreds of other terms of abuse for homosexual men in common use when it was socially acceptable in the western world to be anti-homosexual, and that these words have mainly fallen out of use in favour of a small handful of terms including 'gay' as insult, indicates that a process of forgetting has taken place, and it cannot really be used as a defence for the current use of the term as insult.
Revolutionsz
11-09-2004, 16:54
Yes using the word gay as insult is very ghey.
:D
San Texario
11-09-2004, 16:58
Well, it's much worse where me and Zervok live than it is here. Trust me.
Sparkel Motion
11-09-2004, 17:03
i know a girl who is very very very gay and she called an event 'gay'. Our best reply was 'so are you' to which she agreed... :p
Reltaran
11-09-2004, 17:14
Hakartopia: "That'll show people you're a big boy for sure."
I'm not interested in proving my superiority.

Sdaeriji: "Aww, a bit of projection?"
That doesn't even make sense, dumbass.
Enodscopia
11-09-2004, 17:19
Calling me gay is probaly the worst insult you can insult me with. I hate queers more than anything, I don't even like calling them gay because gay used to mean happy so I called them queers.
Sdaeriji
11-09-2004, 17:22
Hakartopia: "That'll show people you're a big boy for sure."
I'm not interested in proving my superiority.

Sdaeriji: "Aww, a bit of projection?"
That doesn't even make sense, dumbass.

Sure it makes sense. Just because you personally lack the mental capacity to comprehend it does not mean it inherently makes no sense. It just means that it went over your head, like so many other jokes at your expense. Did you just understand all of that? Or should I bring it down to all monosyllabic words?
Iceasruler
11-09-2004, 17:25
Homophobia is an awful thing... and I oppose the use of "gay" as a derogative term. However, if people want to use it, I'm not going to impose upon their rights of free speech.
^^ says it all.
Raishann
11-09-2004, 17:59
Could we please stop using the word 'gay' as an insult?

I DESPISE the use of the word "gay" as an insult, and have for quite a long time.

People should think about what they're doing. How would they like it if I (for instance) substituted "black" or "white" for "gay"? Would you like your skin color used as an insult? "Oh, that sucks, that's so WHITE."

Doesn't that sound stupid? Insulting? Definitely.

I guess other people have the right to say what they want--but I DO wish they'd think about what's coming out of their mouths beforehand.
Reltaran
11-09-2004, 18:02
Sure it makes sense. Just because you personally lack the mental capacity to comprehend it does not mean it inherently makes no sense. It just means that it went over your head, like so many other jokes at your expense. Did you just understand all of that? Or should I bring it down to all monosyllabic words?

You're acting like an idiot. Somebody blaming their own self-inflicted life-long problems on the misuse of a single word is a pathetic excuse for his own inability to operate in a world where not evereybody likes you. Despite your pseudo-Freudian psychobabble, this has absolutely nothing to with "projection." If it does, it sure would be nice if you could actually explain how -too bad you can't.
Sdaeriji
11-09-2004, 18:08
You're acting like an idiot.

Who says I'm acting?

Somebody blaming their own self-inflicted life-long problems on the misuse of a single word is a pathetic excuse for his own inability to operate in a world where not evereybody likes you. Despite your pseudo-Freudian psychobabble, this has absolutely nothing to with "projection." If it does, it sure would be nice if you could actually explain how -too bad you can't.

Well, no shit, doctor, it isn't actually projection. The point of my insult was that your "what a fucking pussy" comment was projection of your own fear and inability to come out of the closet yourself. You've got to be pretty dense if you thought I was being serious. Are you proud that you figured out that it wasn't actually projection?
Homicidal Pacifists
11-09-2004, 18:10
Somebody has to do it.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/gay16.jpg
Reltaran
11-09-2004, 18:12
So is it projection or not, tool?
TheGreatChinesePeople
11-09-2004, 18:13
I DESPISE the use of the word "gay" as an insult, and have for quite a long time.

People should think about what they're doing. How would they like it if I (for instance) substituted "black" or "white" for "gay"? Would you like your skin color used as an insult? "Oh, that sucks, that's so WHITE."

Doesn't that sound stupid? Insulting? Definitely.

I guess other people have the right to say what they want--but I DO wish they'd think about what's coming out of their mouths beforehand.


People already do that ;)
Raishann
11-09-2004, 18:15
People already do that ;)

And when they do, it's not their most intelligent moment in this life. :-P
Eridanus
11-09-2004, 18:18
Dude, this thread is gay
CRACKPIE
11-09-2004, 18:18
the word gay as an insult...its almost funny.
Looming Doom
11-09-2004, 18:21
The word is not such a bad word. It's people's interpretation of it that makes it bad.
Leafeon
11-09-2004, 18:41
Well, I don't use it as an insult and I never get offended, meaning I can't understand people who do. You can insult my mother and my sexuality as much as you want to without provoking any reaction. Some people just get offended over just about anything and well, too bad for them.
Suicidal Librarians
11-09-2004, 18:45
I will admit to seeing a girly looking men's shirt and saying, "That shirt is really gay." But I only say it in situations where it makes sense. I hate it when people use the word "gay" when it doesn't even make sense, like, "This book is so gay." The book is homosexual? That doesn't make sense. It doesn't bother me unless someone uses it in a situation that is completely ridiculous, using the word without really thinking about what it means.