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If you're a true Republican, you'll vote for Kerry.

by Pete McCloskey

Although I'm a lifelong Republican, I will vote for John Kerry on Nov. 2. The choice seems simple under traditional principles of the Republican Party.
I first met John Kerry in the spring of 1971. Each of us was just back from Vietnam -- he as a Navy officer and I as a member of Congress -- and were appalled by what we had seen there. I found Kerry to be idealistic, courageous and, above all else, truthful to a fault. He demonstrated courage in Vietnam, but as Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. once said, the courage to speak against prevailing opinion in civil strife is often greater than that demanded on the battlefield.

During Kerry's public career after his election to the Senate, he has clearly grown and matured. I believe he is incapable of deliberate deceit or dissembling. This alone represents a refreshing hope for a return of public faith in our government.

That Kerry has attained the solid support of former Secretary of Defense William Perry, with whom he has worked for years on issues of nuclear proliferation, confirms his ability to study, listen and reach sound judgments.
The primary issue in November will be who can best lead us in the bitter struggle against the Islamic fundamentalists who perpetrated 9/11 and are willing to die to kill Americans throughout the world. The Iraq occupation has caused thousands of new suicide bombers to join the jihad against us; with Kerry as president, the nation will properly refocus the battle away from Iraq and against the true enemy, Al-Qaida.

As Kerry has stated, we desperately need the cooperation of every country in the world, friend and enemy, where terrorist cells can germinate and operate.
We need to be more humble in asking for this assistance. A return to the ``speak softly but carry a big stick'' philosophy of Teddy Roosevelt should be far more effective than the bluster, bravado and ``shock and awe'' firepower of the neocon advisers who have commandeered White House foreign policy.
There are many other reasons to support John Kerry.
The incredible budget deficits projected to be $2.3 trillion or more in the next decade, disrespect for the United Nations, international law and Geneva Conventions, secrecy in government -- all of these are positions Kerry would certainly reverse.

As a Catholic, Kerry is sure to maintain the constitutional separation between church and state, recognizing that while we are indeed a nation under God, everyone is free to choose his or her own faith in God.
He will also end the inordinate secrecy that has characterized this administration. It seems incredible that a matter as important as our national energy policy could be decided in secret by Vice President Dick Cheney's energy task force -- individuals whose very names have been withheld from the public.

Kerry's record on environmental issues is superb, an area where the Bush administration has been a disaster.

Finally, there's the matter of John Ashcroft and prospective judicial appointees who could undo Roe vs. Wade, a woman's right of choice and many of the civil liberties we have earned over 225 years.
Each of the foregoing reasons for supporting Kerry is based on traditional Republican values of fiscal responsibility, limited governmental intrusion and the accountability of individuals.

In truth, John Kerry and John Edwards come far closer to the Republicanism of Teddy Roosevelt, Earl Warren, Barry Goldwater, George Bush the elder and, yes, even Richard Nixon, than does the present incumbent.
Ending secrecy and bringing truth and honesty back to the White House are reasons enough to elect Kerry and Edwards.


PETE MCCLOSKEY represented the San Francisco Peninsula in Congress from 1967 to 1983. He earned a Navy Cross, Silver Star and two Purple Hearts as a Marine rifle platoon leader during the Korean War. He wrote this column for the Mercury News.

If you're a true Democrat, you'll vote for Kerry. If you're a true Libertarian, you'll vote for Kerry. If you're a true Green, you'll vote for Kerry. John Kerry: an undecided candidate for the undecided voter.

The choice is between a "flip-flopper" and the stubbornest man on Earth.

Flip-flopping is a good thing sometimes. It means the person doesn't think things are all black and white. There are some gray areas. Bush thinks everything is black.

The choice is between a "flip-flopper" and the stubbornest man on Earth.I didn't know that John Kerry was the stubbornest man on Earth.

John Kerry has no plan for the Deficiet. He will implement MORE programs, rather then cutting them.


John Kerry's only point of Foreign Affairs, War On Terror/Iraq. Is that he thinks he can pull out the magic wand and get France and Germany to help us. The fact is, these nations will never help us. They've shown their overall dislike of confronting thugs head on, and now that we went on without them their pride is forever wounded. They want to see us fail, so that we can come crawling back to them asking for forgivness. I honestly wouldn't say John Kerry wouldn't do that.


Oh, and John Kerry as CATHOLIC? That's laughable. Saying your a catholic and being a catholic are very different. For example. He says life begins at conception. Yet he's Pro-Abortion. WTF? So, he thinks that a fetus is alive, and THAT'S why he supports KILLING them! Damn, if only Kerry could just pick and issue and BE IT.

Uhm...John Kerry will get foreign assistance by being willing to negotiate and not being stubborn and bullheaded.

Oh, and John Kerry as CATHOLIC? That's laughable. Saying your a catholic and being a catholic are very different. For example. He says life begins at conception. Yet he's Pro-Abortion. WTF? So, he thinks that a fetus is alive, and THAT'S why he supports KILLING them! Damn, if only Kerry could just pick and issue and BE IT.
He's not pro-abortion--he's pro-choice, and if you can't see the difference, then I can't help you. It is entirely possible to be personally opposed to abortion and yet not seek to impose that personal belief on everyone because you recognize they they might have a belief that disagrees with yours.

He's not pro-abortion--he's pro-choice, and if you can't see the difference, then I can't help you. It is entirely possible to be personally opposed to abortion and yet not seek to impose that personal belief on everyone because you recognize they they might have a belief that disagrees with yours.


I'm sorry. But if you feel that way, then you are NOT Catholic. It's that simple. If he wants to say that. Then thats TOTALLY COOL by me. But then he can't turn around and call himself Catholics.

Catholics can not support Abortion. Nor can they support policies that will lead to Abortion. So, whatever, Pro-Choice then. It doesn't matter. He still won't stop it. And for Catholics, thats murder.


I'm not making a moral statement here. I'm not Catholic. Nor am I pro-life. Abortion is a very difficult issue. But it is completely wrong for John Kerry to advertise himself as a Catholic when he doesn't show it at all, and even goes against it.

Uhm...John Kerry will get foreign assistance by being willing to negotiate and not being stubborn and bullheaded.


"Hey, Mr. Bin Laden. Look, we're REALLY sorry about what we did to you way back when. I mean, that whole soldiers in Saudi Arabia thing? Yeah, that was a mistake. Listen, i'm sure we can work all this out. You only killed 3000 of our people in one day, and vowed to destroy everything America stands for. But look, fighting is bad. So like, why don't I just leave you alone, and you just leave me alone? k? thnx."-negotiating and not being stubborn or bullheaded

I didn't know that John Kerry was the stubbornest man on Earth.
You are funny. I think I like you!! :D

"Hey, Mr. Bin Laden. Look, we're REALLY sorry about what we did to you way back when. I mean, that whole soldiers in Saudi Arabia thing? Yeah, that was a mistake. Listen, i'm sure we can work all this out. You only killed 3000 of our people in one day, and vowed to destroy everything America stands for. But look, fighting is bad. So like, why don't I just leave you alone, and you just leave me alone? k? thnx."-negotiating and not being stubborn or bullheaded
Do you really believe what you just wrote? Do you really think John Kerry would act like that?

Well... our foreign relations problems are not about Iraq. Sure, it is a sign of the illness but it is not the illness itself. Our problems come from fundemental differences in the way Americans view major issues comparied to Europeans. We view terror as war, they view it as crime. The European Union is going to compete economically with the United States. The US is a "superpower" and there are some european countries that really really want to be. IN otherwords, there are deep rooted issues that must be dealt with.

It means that until we work on that level, we are still going to have a problem, no matter who is president. Even is a magic wand were to be waived and all the problems in the middle east resolved, we would still be on a course to but heads with Europe.

I personally don't see what all the holibaloo is about. Europeans seems like good people. It seems like they don't like us much (if one were to believe what they see on the news), which makes me sad because I like them.

John Kerry has no plan for the Deficiet. He will implement MORE programs, rather then cutting them.


John Kerry's only point of Foreign Affairs, War On Terror/Iraq. Is that he thinks he can pull out the magic wand and get France and Germany to help us. The fact is, these nations will never help us. They've shown their overall dislike of confronting thugs head on, and now that we went on without them their pride is forever wounded. They want to see us fail, so that we can come crawling back to them asking for forgivness. I honestly wouldn't say John Kerry wouldn't do that.


Oh, and John Kerry as CATHOLIC? That's laughable. Saying your a catholic and being a catholic are very different. For example. He says life begins at conception. Yet he's Pro-Abortion. WTF? So, he thinks that a fetus is alive, and THAT'S why he supports KILLING them! Damn, if only Kerry could just pick and issue and BE IT.
Perhaps that is more humane than letting them grow up to be young men, slapping a US flag on their sleeve and sending them off to die in some God forsaken dustbowl?

I'm sorry. But if you feel that way, then you are NOT Catholic. It's that simple. If he wants to say that. Then thats TOTALLY COOL by me. But then he can't turn around and call himself Catholics.

Catholics can not support Abortion. Nor can they support policies that will lead to Abortion. So, whatever, Pro-Choice then. It doesn't matter. He still won't stop it. And for Catholics, thats murder.


I'm not making a moral statement here. I'm not Catholic. Nor am I pro-life. Abortion is a very difficult issue. But it is completely wrong for John Kerry to advertise himself as a Catholic when he doesn't show it at all, and even goes against it.
Funny--there are hundreds of thousands, perhaps even millions of pro-choice Catholics. The issue is a personal one, both politically and spiritually. The church does not require that a member actively work to impose their beliefs on the public at large--it requires that the members try to convince others of the rightness of their actions.

It is true that there are some bishops in the US--and in other places--who have argued that to be pro-choice is anathema to church doctrine, but thus far, the Pope has only argued that abortion is contrary to church doctrine. He has not made the political position of pro-choice grounds for excommunication. If and when that happens, then John Kerry and other Catholic politicans will have a choice to make, but for now, it is acceptable, although frowned upon by some, to be pro-choice politically and still oppose abortion personally.

I'm sorry. But if you feel that way, then you are NOT Catholic. It's that simple. If he wants to say that. Then thats TOTALLY COOL by me. But then he can't turn around and call himself Catholics.

Catholics can not support Abortion. Nor can they support policies that will lead to Abortion. So, whatever, Pro-Choice then. It doesn't matter. He still won't stop it. And for Catholics, thats murder.


I'm not making a moral statement here. I'm not Catholic. Nor am I pro-life. Abortion is a very difficult issue. But it is completely wrong for John Kerry to advertise himself as a Catholic when he doesn't show it at all, and even goes against it.


So you're the authority on Caltholicism? You get to decide what Catholicism is, yet you're not Catholic? Huh? I don't understand, you're saying a man can't identify himself as a member of a group as long as he doesn't agree with every piece of written doctrine? I consider myself an American, a damn patriotic one, but I don't agree with every last policy and piece of written law and code of the United States government. Your argument is absurd.

I think it is a damn scary thing if Kerry gets in. Look who his supporters are. Is that the direction you want America to go. Extreme left is just as bad as extreme right and thankfully we have not gotten to that point, but I fear that Kerry would take this country down the wrong path.

I was amused by the opening statement that since he is Catholic he understands the separation of church and state. That one statement convinced me that the guy that wrote this is a loon. Only the ACLU really believes that there is such a thing and take it to the extreme that they do. Sadly the education system in th US doesn't teach the constitution so must people under 30 don't have any idea what is says unless they took it upon themselves to read it.

Kerry is not the man to lead this country.

I think it is a damn scary thing if Kerry gets in. Look who his supporters are. Is that the direction you want America to go. Extreme left is just as bad as extreme right and thankfully we have not gotten to that point, but I fear that Kerry would take this country down the wrong path.

I was amused by the opening statement that since he is Catholic he understands the separation of church and state. That one statement convinced me that the guy that wrote this is a loon. Only the ACLU really believes that there is such a thing and take it to the extreme that they do. Sadly the education system in th US doesn't teach the constitution so must people under 30 don't have any idea what is says unless they took it upon themselves to read it.

Kerry is not the man to lead this country.
Please enlighten us. Who are Kerry's supporters? What direction do you want to go in?

everyone is free to choose his or her own faith in God.

What if we don't want to have faith in a god? So wait, is Kerry against Atheists like Papa Bush and Baby Bush are/were?

I think it is a damn scary thing if Kerry gets in. Look who his supporters are. Is that the direction you want America to go. Extreme left is just as bad as extreme right and thankfully we have not gotten to that point, but I fear that Kerry would take this country down the wrong path.

I was amused by the opening statement that since he is Catholic he understands the separation of church and state. That one statement convinced me that the guy that wrote this is a loon. Only the ACLU really believes that there is such a thing and take it to the extreme that they do. Sadly the education system in th US doesn't teach the constitution so must people under 30 don't have any idea what is says unless they took it upon themselves to read it.

Kerry is not the man to lead this country.

Yeah, Kerry's supporters are scary. 10 Nobel laureates in economics, countless Nobel laureates of different disciplines. Retired Ambassadors and Generals. The scary list goes on and on.

Note: This list is only scary if you are an unfrozen caveman Republican.

FUCl< George W BUSH to bad he wasnt visiting the trade centers 3 years ago today

John Kerry has no plan for the Deficiet. He will implement MORE programs, rather then cutting them.


John Kerry's only point of Foreign Affairs, War On Terror/Iraq. Is that he thinks he can pull out the magic wand and get France and Germany to help us. The fact is, these nations will never help us. They've shown their overall dislike of confronting thugs head on, and now that we went on without them their pride is forever wounded. They want to see us fail, so that we can come crawling back to them asking for forgivness. I honestly wouldn't say John Kerry wouldn't do that.


Oh, and John Kerry as CATHOLIC? That's laughable. Saying your a catholic and being a catholic are very different. For example. He says life begins at conception. Yet he's Pro-Abortion. WTF? So, he thinks that a fetus is alive, and THAT'S why he supports KILLING them! Damn, if only Kerry could just pick and issue and BE IT.
So what do you know about the catechism and the current church? Pray tell, which version of the church are you talking about, the current one or the one Gibson wants back?

So you're the authority on Caltholicism? You get to decide what Catholicism is, yet you're not Catholic? Huh? I don't understand, you're saying a man can't identify himself as a member of a group as long as he doesn't agree with every piece of written doctrine? I consider myself an American, a damn patriotic one, but I don't agree with every last policy and piece of written law and code of the United States government. Your argument is absurd.
I was a little less than punctual. My apologies. Right on Nucnac, and the other not-so-assuming folk on this thread.

FUCl< George W BUSH to bad he wasnt visiting the trade centers 3 years ago today

As someone who lost thirteen friends three years ago today, I find this highly offensive.

Some people are oblivious morons. Yes, Bush is stubborn, controversial, and makes bad choices in environmental situations. Under him however, contrary to popular belief, unemployment has gone up, jobs have been GAINED in the millions, the economy is beginning to fully return, and you can scratch two terrorist governments. Frankly, I agree that he isn't the brightest or best man in th eworld, but when compared to the likes of Gore, Kerry, and Nader, the man is a savior. (No, I'm not religious).

0Edit- Oh, examples of Kerry's flip-flop: Kerry votes to send troops to Iraq. (OF HIS OWN DECISION, LIKE THE REST OF CONGRESS) and then votes against sending them vitally needed supplies, wait, wha? How does that work out? The man bases his campaign on being better than Bush, because he is anti-war, wants to get out, but for his "worthiness" he states his "bravery" in Vietnam. So, he is validating his worthiness, as an ANTI war candidate, with WAR TIME "achievments" Makes a lot of sense. I choose Ross Perrot. (By the way, when you have over half the men with him state that Kerry vastly exagerrates, it is probably true. Just a thought)

Oh, and John Kerry as CATHOLIC? That's laughable. Saying your a catholic and being a catholic are very different. For example. He says life begins at conception. Yet he's Pro-Abortion. WTF? So, he thinks that a fetus is alive, and THAT'S why he supports KILLING them! Damn, if only Kerry could just pick and issue and BE IT.


And what the fuck is wrong with you? I, personally believe abortion is one of the sickest practices done by humans to date. But am I a woman? Fuck no! It's not my place to tell a woman what she can do with herself or her child. I am a Christian (with a potty mouth, true) but I know it is not my place to tell you what you can or can't do with yourself! I don't support abortions, but far be it for me to take that right away from someone else. You conservatives are far more at fault for this than the liberals are. You know why? Because you refuse to support both abortion, and Birth Control. If we had mandatory or free Birth Control, then we wouldn't ever need abortions!!! You are just as guilty as the liberals are, except you are worse, you are hypocrites!

He's not pro-abortion--he's pro-choice, and if you can't see the difference, then I can't help you. It is entirely possible to be personally opposed to abortion and yet not seek to impose that personal belief on everyone because you recognize they they might have a belief that disagrees with yours.

The way I see it is that pro-abortion means that you do not think the fetus is alive. And you do NOT belive abortion is murder.

Pro-choice means that you BELIVE abortion is murder. Yet you also belive in the separation of church and state. Therefore you do not wish to force your belives on the entire country.

Some people are oblivious morons. Yes, Bush is stubborn, controversial, and makes bad choices in environmental situations. Under him however, contrary to popular belief, unemployment has gone up, jobs have been GAINED in the millions, the economy is beginning to fully return, and you can scratch two terrorist governments. Frankly, I agree that he isn't the brightest or best man in th eworld, but when compared to the likes of Gore, Kerry, and Nader, the man is a savior. (No, I'm not religious).


GWB has still lost more jobs in his term than created. If he gets a second term i think he would have a net job gain for the two terms combined.
The economy started to come back over a year ago. But it just keeps stoping after making a little gain.
GWB is not as bad as most people make him out to be. He is no war monger. he is not stupid, But my thinking is he had his chance and did not do a good enough job for me to vote for him this time. (I voted for him the first time.)

The choice is between a "flip-flopper" and the stubbornest man on Earth.
bush cant run against himself...

The way I see it is that pro-abortion means that you do not think the fetus is alive. And you do NOT belive abortion is murder.

Pro-choice means that you BELIVE abortion is murder. Yet you also belive in the separation of church and state. Therefore you do not wish to force your belives on the entire country.

what about me? i am actually pro-abortion, in that i believe that we should encourage more women to abort and increase the number of aborted pregnancies world-wide, i believe the fetus is obviously alive (because at no point in the human LIFE cycle does dead tissue become alive), and i believe abortion is not murder?

and what about pro-choice people who think this debate has nothing to do with seperation of church and state? what about the people who think abortion is horrible, wrong, but still NOT MURDER?

your catagories are crap, quite frankly, just the same rhetoric we always hear from anti-choice rantings.

bush cant run against himself...
you never know...Republican fear tactics have informed me that voting for anybody except Bush is tantamount to treason, so perhaps they will solve that problem for us by simply declaring John Kerry in violation of the Patriot Act and allowing Americans the chance to vote between George W. Bush and George W. Bush.

0Edit- Oh, examples of Kerry's flip-flop: Kerry votes to send troops to Iraq. (OF HIS OWN DECISION, LIKE THE REST OF CONGRESS) and then votes against sending them vitally needed supplies, wait, wha? How does that work out?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=356271

Here's how that whole funding vote thing worked out. See my very first post, and come back to me if you find any FACTUAL errors. The Republicans dropped the ball on it, but have successfully blamed Kerry. They're dependent on an uninformed populace that lacks critical thinking ability.

Kerry voted against not giving our soldiers armor

Oh, and John Kerry as CATHOLIC? That's laughable. Saying your a catholic and being a catholic are very different. For example. He says life begins at conception. Yet he's Pro-Abortion. WTF? So, he thinks that a fetus is alive, and THAT'S why he supports KILLING them! Damn, if only Kerry could just pick and issue and BE IT.
Then he's going to use the words pro-choice so he isn't seen as anti-life. This guy (Kerry) changes his mind every time a gallup poll comes out

But Kerry is for gun control higher, taxes, national health care, and all that other non-sense.

As someone who lost thirteen friends three years ago today, I find this highly offensive.

As someone who lost no one personal three years ago today, I also found it offensive.

Is all I can think when I see your people oblivious to all the atrocities your government (Bushit, Shitney and company) has done to the people of the world and now is doing to the people of Afghanistan and Iraq. Bush is a terrorist and promotes fear in your people and stupid people believe him and are glued to the TV watching propaganda thinking they will save you from Al Quaeda while the wars just promote more hatred to your people and more terrorists. Instead of killing YOUR soldiers (which are mostly poor and brain washed teenagers) and the thousands or civilians, your soldiers should be helping in Florida and other disasters zones in your country and aboard.

Its disgusting how people can think BUshit is a good patriotic man,

I have been a democrat since i could talk. I knew that the better choice was usually the democratic side. I am totally baffled at WHY people would vote for George Bush!!!!!! He has made all the wrong desicions at all the wrong times. I feel like a monkey could (possibly) do a better job as president. But that is just me. I am happy that alot of the Republicans are finally coming to their sences about George Bush and are hopefully going to vote for John Kerry when election time roles around. phew... you finally relize what the president has done to our country... :rolleyes: ... hopefully


:gundge:

Do you really believe what you just wrote? Do you really think John Kerry would act like that?

It's what he proposes to do

Ok! I'm a Republican. I've listened to Kerry and to Bush and listened to their respective acceptence speeches. In the end, I have decided to cast my vote for GWB!

Why? I trust him on National Security and the War on Terrorism.

I will say that he may not be bright but Kerry has given me no reason to vote for him on these 2 issues. I also trust Bush on the economy. Why? His tax cuts. If Kerry thinks he can cut middle class taxcuts while raising taxes on the top 1% while paying for ALL of his programs, he is sadly mistaken.

I'm also voting Bush because I like his stance on Gay Marriage(though I opposed the Federal Marriage Amendment), and on abortion!

Kerry said he is against Gay Marriage but said that he will push to legalize it nationwide whereas many states in the union have outlawed it. Not to mention Congress WILL NOT tolerate it. He says he believes life begins at conception but yet votes continously to support it. This I do not support.

That is why I'm casting my vote for G.W. Bush.

1st presidential election I voted in was 1988. I voted GOP in 1988, 1990, 1992, 1994, 1996, and 1998. Didn't vote in 2000 cause I couldn't abide by either. Voting Kerry in because of GWB's total incompetence, panderring to the religious right, and big government neo-conservatism. :mad: :mad: :upyours:

Bring back my Goldwater GOP!

Ok! I'm a Republican. I've listened to Kerry and to Bush and listened to their respective acceptence speeches. In the end, I have decided to cast my vote for GWB!

Why? I trust him on National Security and the War on Terrorism.Okay. Based on Bush's track record, that seems a little odd, but whatever.

I will say that he may not be bright but Kerry has given me no reason to vote for him on these 2 issues. I also trust Bush on the economy. Why? His tax cuts. If Kerry thinks he can cut middle class taxcuts while raising taxes on the top 1% while paying for ALL of his programs, he is sadly mistaken.And Bush can do all of the things he promised in his acceptance speech while simultaneously cutting taxes on everyone? Come on.

I'm also voting Bush because I like his stance on Gay Marriage(though I opposed the Federal Marriage Amendment), and on abortion!

Kerry said he is against Gay Marriage but said that he will push to legalize it nationwide whereas many states in the union have outlawed it. Not to mention Congress WILL NOT tolerate it. He says he believes life begins at conception but yet votes continously to support it. This I do not support.Whoa whoa whoa--Kerry has never said anything of the sort regarding gay marriage. It's actually a bone of contention with me because I think it's a civil rights matter, so trust me, I know this. Kerry opposes a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, but supports civil unions. As far as abortion is concerned, he holds the opinion most pro-choice advocates hold--that abortions should be legal, protected, and rare.

That is why I'm casting my vote for G.W. Bush.That's cool, if you're making an informed choice, but don't make one based on empty rhetoric.

Okay. Based on Bush's track record, that seems a little odd, but whatever.

His track record is fighting back against terrorism. His record is the elimination of 2 terror regimes and the freeding of 50 million people. Granted, both places are not fully secured and there are attacks in both nations but both nations are better off than what they were. That is my opinion anyway.

And Bush can do all of the things he promised in his acceptance speech while simultaneously cutting taxes on everyone? Come on.

And yet Kerry's plans would be adding onto what Bush has so far. Ironic isn't it. Kerry wants to cut the Budget but instead he'll be adding to it!

Whoa whoa whoa--Kerry has never said anything of the sort regarding gay marriage. It's actually a bone of contention with me because I think it's a civil rights matter, so trust me, I know this. Kerry opposes a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, but supports civil unions. As far as abortion is concerned, he holds the opinion most pro-choice advocates hold--that abortions should be legal, protected, and rare.

To me it is a state's issue that is why I opposed the FMA but support the decisions by the people of the state. I don't support what happened in Mass because it was decided by the courts and not the people. As to Abortions, the only reasons that I would accept it is: 1)Partial Birth Abortion is Banned, 2)It endangers the Health of the mother (no other reason than that) 3)Rape! If you want abortions to be rare then instute reforms and the process to get one and not make it available from a street cornor. Anyone can go into one and get one and it shouldn't be like that. It should be by perscription with FULL MEDICAL PROOF that it does endanger the mother because right now, abortions are anything but rare. This is a whole seperate debate though.

That's cool, if you're making an informed choice, but don't make one based on empty rhetoric.

Sorry, I am an informed voter. I've looked at where both candidates stand on the issues of the day and have done research into both candidates. I trust Bush to lead this country and that is why I'm voting for GWB and not John Kerry.

During Kerry's public career after his election to the Senate, he has clearly grown and matured. I believe he is incapable of deliberate deceit or dissembling. This alone represents a refreshing hope for a return of public faith in our government.

Incapable? The only people not capable of lying are babies that don't know what lying is. unwilling is one thing, but incapable? Either Kerry is God or Kerry is 2 or this guy is a moron. And since I don't think God looks funny, and I know that Kerry was a hippie in the sixties, I guess this guy is an idiot.

But Kerry is for gun control higher, taxes, national health care, and all that other non-sense.
Are you sure about gun control? Higher taxes for the richest 2% would save about $90 Billion (you are one of those?), something wrong with national health care in the richest country in the world?

Of course, you probably would have a problem with less wars, improving international relationships, a better environment, more jobs, less poverty?

His track record is fighting back against terrorism. His record is the elimination of 2 terror regimes and the freeding of 50 million people. Granted, both places are not fully secured and there are attacks in both nations but both nations are better off than what they were. That is my opinion anyway.
Bush has failed in Afghanistan. Bin Laden is still at large. 50 million people are not free, they are under occupation.

And yet Kerry's plans would be adding onto what Bush has so far. Ironic isn't it. Kerry wants to cut the Budget but instead he'll be adding to it!
Kerry will be changing Bush's plan. Instant saving of $90 Billion by repealing tax cut for richest 2% of Americans. Bush's new wars if elected will be even more expensive than the current ones, and much harder to win, with greater US casualties.

Sorry, I am an informed voter. I've looked at where both candidates stand on the issues of the day and have done research into both candidates. I trust Bush to lead this country and that is why I'm voting for GWB and not John Kerry.
Bush will lead many Americans to death in foreign countries, in new wars. Bush fought an unnecessary war in Iraq.

Bush has failed in Afghanistan. Bin Laden is still at large. 50 million people are not free, they are under occupation.

I think someone needs to get with the program! Iraq has an interim government with elections in January! And by elections, I mean free ones with choices of people and no fear of pain or torture or worse for not voting for Saddam. Afghanistan has their elections right around the cornor! Next month unless the pushed it back again but I have not heard them doing that so I believe next month there will be free elections there too. Both nations are better off than they were. Granted there are still problems but they are better off without the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein in Iraq. So yes, I do trust Bush on National Security and Terrorism just like the majority of Americans.

Kerry will be changing Bush's plan. Instant saving of $90 Billion by repealing tax cut for richest 2% of Americans. Bush's new wars if elected will be even more expensive than the current ones, and much harder to win, with greater US casualties.

And then the stock market will go down because he wants to bring back the Capital Gains tax and the Dividen tax (which makes this double taxation and actually illegal)! Also companies will be forced to raise prices on the goods they sell because of the increase taxes as well as laying off people. And what new wars are you talking about? Oh, you mean Iran? I'm betting we set one foot over the border, Ayatola Komiene will be gone because the people will revolt because they know that the US will back them and will not do what we did with the other shia uprising in Iraq.

Bush will lead many Americans to death in foreign countries, in new wars. Bush fought an unnecessary war in Iraq.

This is the 2nd time you mention new wars. I already explained Iran so what other war needs to be fought? Sudan? That should be a UN Operation. Iran should be a UN Operation too and I think that Europe gave a deadline on Iran regarding its nuclear program. Something that I applaud them for and praying that they keep that deadline and not extend it. Iraq was a necessary war because of all the UN Violations. Hell even Congress believed it was time for him to go otherwise, they would not have authorized the use of force against Hussein and Kerry said he probably would do the exact samething if he was in Bush's shoes.

"Hey, Mr. Bin Laden. Look, we're REALLY sorry about what we did to you way back when. I mean, that whole soldiers in Saudi Arabia thing? Yeah, that was a mistake. Listen, i'm sure we can work all this out. You only killed 3000 of our people in one day, and vowed to destroy everything America stands for. But look, fighting is bad. So like, why don't I just leave you alone, and you just leave me alone? k? thnx."-negotiating and not being stubborn or bullheaded
What, as opposed to Bush's response:
"We gonna hunt you down and kill you. Wanted Dead or Alive. Destroy him Destroy him DESTROY HIM...oh wait destroy who again? Osama who? Oh oh him. He doesn't matter any more, I'm not going to hunt for him. He can go. Yes I know his organisation is responsible for countless attacks and thousands dead (WTC, Madrid, US Cole, Bali, possibly Belsan, Indonesia Oz consulate, Nigeria etc etc) but I'm not bothered about him much any more. He's free to go. Because: SADDAM SADDAM SADDAM SADDAM SADDAM SADDAM SADDAM. He tried to kill my Pappy you know."