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Target practice is good for training, not for sport. Guns should be used only to kill something, but I fail to see how Chess Squares and I agree on this. Anyhow, do you know that the army is suffering an ammunition shortage? I'm sure it wouldn't be half as bad if there weren't as many people going to target ranges and gun clubs.



so the shortage of .223 remington ammunition is the fault of civilians

wow that is rich.


Military Ball ammuntion is different than what you can buy in the civilian world.

Think of it this way, a .223 is a beer

Military rounds are Becks or Heiniken and Civilian rounds are Budweiser or Natural Ice.

listen you ignorant halfwit

the ooh evil liberal judges are interpreting laws in the manner they must be intepreted: in ways that allow them to keep up with the development with society


the conservative judges interpret the law in such a manner that they are preventing any laws from being made to try and adapt to the advancement of society


quote one instance, just one, of this supposed "legislating form teh bench" bullshit you repeat like a republican parrot


TheOneRule has already responded.

And I am supposed to be a halfwit because I dont understand what
"just because you are legislating to the right doesnt mean you arnt legislating" means?

http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/useditorial31.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/762148/posts
http://www-hoover.stanford.edu/publications/digest/031/ferejohn.html

and the one to draw the most fire :D

http://www.etherzone.com/2000/bend113000.html
now provide a non partisan normal law site and explain how it is legislating from the bench, parrots only seem intelligent

quote one instance, just one, of this supposed "legislating form teh bench" bullshit you repeat like a republican parrot

now provide a non partisan normal law site and explain how it is legislating from the bench, parrots only seem intelligent

lol.. have to raise the bar when one challange is met?

edit: On second review.. you are calling Stanford university a partisan site?

With your track record, you will simply ignore or discount anything I can provide....

There's a lot of aggression in this thread!
The ONLY way to solve this is to buy an assault rifle and duel it out.
:headbang:
The above is sarcasm and sarcasm it is.
Can't you all just get along without any guns???

There's a lot of aggression in this thread!
The ONLY way to solve this is to buy an assault rifle and duel it out.
:headbang:
The above is sarcasm and sarcasm it is.
Can't you all just get along without any guns???

I would love to try to get along without ever using a gun against another human, but I do like to participate in indoor range shooting leagues, trap and skeet shooting, and on rare occasion long range rifle matches (600 yard+)

lol.. have to raise the bar when one challange is met?

edit: On second review.. you are calling Stanford university a partisan site?

With your track record, you will simply ignore or discount anything I can provide....
which one was stanford

and i mean case law sites that just give you the facts, not make a site and entitle it legislate from the bench

you obviously have no knowledge of the subject as it appears you just typed "legislate from teh bench" in google.

any republican parrot can do that, it takes some one intelligent to research and learn and recite

There's a lot of aggression in this thread!
The ONLY way to solve this is to buy an assault rifle and duel it out.
:headbang:
The above is sarcasm and sarcasm it is.
Can't you all just get along without any guns???

It's an emotional/cultural/logical issue that engenders a great deal of fight/flight tendencies.

To some of us, taking away the firearms constitutes removing several things: our rights, our preparedness for situations, our money, and our freedom. It very difficult to logically sway someone on that kind of front. Especially when in the US, the statistics support owning firearms--limiting them increases violent crime rates.

We can get along without guns, but we shouldn't have to, just because some people don't like them.

which one was stanford

and i mean case law sites that just give you the facts, not make a site and entitle it legislate from the bench

you obviously have no knowledge of the subject as it appears you just typed "legislate from teh bench" in google.

any republican parrot can do that, it takes some one intelligent to research and learn and recite

You've already proven that you can't do that, either.

Score one for my team...

*stamps rifle shape onto nearby wall with other rifle stamps*

which one was stanford

and i mean case law sites that just give you the facts, not make a site and entitle it legislate from the bench

you obviously have no knowledge of the subject as it appears you just typed "legislate from teh bench" in google.

any republican parrot can do that, it takes some one intelligent to research and learn and recite

I take it from your post that you didnt even read the sites I posted. Otherwise you would know which one was Stanford. I mean it's even in the address of the link, you didnt even have to click on it... you would have had to click on it if you wanted to learn something.

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I reckon this is great news, that way if I'm getting attacked by lots of criminals all at once I can blow them all away at the same time.

Well guys, it's Tuesday. By now, gun factories are working overtime to produce enough assault weapons.

Well guys, it's Tuesday. By now, gun factories are working overtime to produce enough assault weapons.
Actually, in a purely business sense they would probably have been upping production for a while already, in anticipation of the expiration.

Actually, in a purely business sense they would probably have been upping production for a while already, in anticipation of the expiration.
Well they probably were illegal to make for anyone but the police and military before the ban, I'd think.

Well they probably were illegal to make for anyone but the police and military before the ban, I'd think.

So they're putting the collapsable stocks back on, big deal. The actual items that the ban prohibited, didn't affect the actual workings of the firearms themselves.

Just the cosmetic things that make them look more "evil". The ban did nothing.

So they're putting the collapsable stocks back on, big deal. The actual items that the ban prohibited, didn't affect the actual workings of the firearms themselves.

Just the cosmetic things that make them look more "evil". The ban did nothing.
It's more than cosmetic, really. Collapsible stocks make the weapons easier to conceal. Flash surpressers made it easier to fire a weapon undetected at night.

It's more than cosmetic, really. Collapsible stocks make the weapons easier to conceal. Flash surpressers made it easier to fire a weapon undetected at night.

The ban made it easier to make money on the black market for the same weapons that were banned (or not banned). Criminals have the same options yesterday as they will tomorrow. Prebans had everything the new guns had, only now the criminals are going to have to steal a new one instead of just buying the same thing right away off thier local drug dealers.

All I know is that now I can get the equipment to do a PROPER school shooting.

It's more than cosmetic, really. Collapsible stocks make the weapons easier to conceal. Flash surpressers made it easier to fire a weapon undetected at night.

It's still pretty tough to conceal an AR-15 with a collapsable stock in anything but winter, when trenchcoats are actually accepted.

Flash suppressors are for the shooter only--to protect their night-sight. They can't stop the flash from others. You'd still be detected.

All I know is that now I can get the equipment to do a PROPER school shooting.

Qualify the proper equipment.

Full-auto? The AW ban had NOTHING to do with that feature. That's been regulated since the mid 1930s.

"High capacity" magazines? People can perform tactical reloads about as fast as you can blink. Same number of bullets, just a few more mags.

Bayonete lug? If you have a firearm, you're going to shoot it, not spear things with it, most likely.

Flash suppressor? That only protects the one shooting. They can still be seen by others when the burning gasses are expelled, right after the bullet comes out.

It was all cosmetic in nature. Because people were scared of the appearance of the firearms--not what the features actually did or did not do.

This doesn't make it any easier to actually "gun down" more people, nor is it more likely to "turn" someone into a school yard killer.

You do like your sensationalism, don'tcha?

Qualify the proper equipment.

Full-auto? The AW ban had NOTHING to do with that feature. That's been regulated since the mid 1930s.

"High capacity" magazines? People can perform tactical reloads about as fast as you can blink. Same number of bullets, just a few more mags.

Bayonete lug? If you have a firearm, you're going to shoot it, not spear things with it, most likely.

Flash suppressor? That only protects the one shooting. They can still be seen by others when the burning gasses are expelled, right after the bullet comes out.

It was all cosmetic in nature. Because people were scared of the appearance of the firearms--not what the features actually did or did not do.

This doesn't make it any easier to actually "gun down" more people, nor is it more likely to "turn" someone into a school yard killer.

You do like your sensationalism, don'tcha?


Why do you KEEP ignoring the grenade launcher mount? I mean seriously, this is an extremely deadly feature.

Why do you KEEP ignoring the grenade launcher mount? I mean seriously, this is an extremely deadly feature.

Heh...yeah, sorry, my bad....

Why do you KEEP ignoring the grenade launcher mount? I mean seriously, this is an extremely deadly feature.
Oh yes. All those drive-by grenadings in LA. Terrible things.

Oh yes. All those drive-by grenadings in LA. Terrible things.
Like I said earlier.. if the rate of grenadings or drive by bayonettings increases, I will immediately rethink my position that the assault weapon ban was useless as written, except to make ignorant (ignorant as in ignorance is bliss, not as an insult) people feel safer

Why do you KEEP ignoring the grenade launcher mount? I mean seriously, this is an extremely deadly feature.
Hmm, maybe it has to do with the lack of availability of grenades?