NationStates Jolt Archive


Kerry's war funding vote

Gymoor
11-09-2004, 00:51
Kerry is slammed for voting for, then against the $87 billion spending package, but how come the Republicans aren't slammed equally for voting against, then for it?

Kerry voted for the package when it included language about how it was going to be paid for.

The Republicans voted against that same package.

The bill that the Republicans supported and passed against Kerry's vote is the one that did not give the troops the necessary body armor.

How exactly do you condemn Kerry, when ALL the info should lead you to condemn the Republicans?
Chess Squares
11-09-2004, 00:55
Kerry is slammed for voting for, then against the $87 billion spending package, but how come the Republicans aren't slammed equally for voting against, then for it?

Kerry voted for the package when it included language about how it was going to be paid for.

The Republicans voted against that same package.

The bill that the Republicans supported and passed against Kerry's vote is the one that did not give the troops the necessary body armor.

How exactly do you condemn Kerry, when ALL the info should lead you to condemn the Republicans?
because the upper majority of republicans are ignorantly party blind
Demented Hamsters
11-09-2004, 01:14
Possibly because the liberal media has higher standards for Democratic polititicians than it does for GOP ones. :p
Or perhaps GOP has extremely good spin doctors who get their ppl to say the same wee sound bites over and over again at every opportunity ('Hatefest', 'WMDs', 'Saddam', 'Kerry lied' etc etc) until it's ingrained in the populace's mind that it must be truth. And of course the liberal media won't bother checking the facts. Cause it naturally assumes the GOP spin doctors to be truthful.
I love how it's Kerry's 'fault' that some troops are still without body armour. I mean the bill passed didn't it?! Has Kerry got that much power, that he can control what the Pentagon spends it's money on? Did the soldiers get told, 'Sorry you were due for protective body armour, but Kerry voted against the bill which passed so we couldn't buy some'.
Why are they still waiting? We're talking about a cost of $60M here - out of $87B. This represents 0.6% of the total extra granted. So what has that money been spent on, if not to ensure the safeguard of the troops.
Oh wait, I remember now. Haliburton.
BastardSword
11-09-2004, 01:16
Possibly because the liberal media has higher standards for Democratic polititicians than it does for GOP ones. :p
Or perhaps GOP has extremely good spin doctors who get their ppl to say the same wee sound bites over and over again at every opportunity ('Hatefest', 'WMDs', 'Saddam', 'Kerry lied' etc etc) until it's ingrained in the populace's mind that it must be truth. And of course the liberal media won't bother checking the facts. Cause it naturally assumes the GOP spin doctors to be truthful.
I love how it's Kerry's 'fault' that some troops are still without body armour. I mean the bill passed didn't it?! Has Kerry got that much power, that he can control what the Pentagon spends it's money on? Did the soldiers get told, 'Sorry you were due for protective body armour, but Kerry voted against the bill which passed so we couldn't buy some'.
Why are they still waiting? We're talking about a cost of $60M here - out of $87B. This represents 0.6% of the total extra granted. So what has that money been spent on, if not to ensure the safeguard of the troops.
Oh wait, I remember now. Haliburton.

Yes Kerry has been running the govt, Bush is just a Puppet :)
Gymoor
11-09-2004, 02:32
Conservatives? Comments? More denial? :headbang: :headbang:
Eldarana
11-09-2004, 02:59
Nope just dont really care what liberals say when the only have propaganda to back it up.
Chess Squares
11-09-2004, 03:02
Nope just dont really care what liberals say when the only have propaganda to back it up.
because we all know the truth is propaganda and propaganda is the truth :rolleyes:

welcome to the Republican party, to the left you will find pixie sticks with salt and to the left salt shakers filled with sugar
Gymoor
11-09-2004, 03:06
Nope just dont really care what liberals say when the only have propaganda to back it up.

Dude, you completely and utterly failed to respond to my FACTS. All you did was deny. WHYis what I posted above propaganda, exactly? By responding the way you have, you merely reinforce my supposition that you simply do not care about truth. You are now free to go back to your cave.

:headbang: :headbang: :confused:
Eldarana
11-09-2004, 03:15
Becuase i dont trust anyone
Chess Squares
11-09-2004, 03:15
Becuase i dont trust anyone
unless they are republican..
Eldarana
11-09-2004, 03:16
Nope nobody not even my family. I would have voted for Lieberman if he won the democratic nomination
Les Etats-Unis
11-09-2004, 03:29
bush is totally stalwart in his positioin, never flip flops.

i mean, as a good republican, he wants to:

- expand gov't agencies (homeland security)
- encourage gov't interference in state political processes (women's right to choose)
- incur massive gov't spending without regard to fiscal reality (iraq war)
- increase gov't control of its citizens (patriot act)
- big aid increases to other countries (universal health care for iraqis)

now if that doesn't sound like a SOLID republican, non-flip-flopping platform, maybe i don't know what it means to be republican...
Eldarana
11-09-2004, 11:35
You dont know what it means to be a republican
Chess Squares
11-09-2004, 12:32
You dont know what it means to be a republican
i have a pretty good idea, i could be one i if i tried, it means totally diregarding everything, true or not, that says something bad about any republican and jsut spouting off random gibberish about the democrats and any gibberish i read about the is true,i t doesnt even matter if it says "the democrats killed the last of the blue gorillas" now i know there arnt any blue gorillas, but the democrats killed them, they are evil

I AM ARE REPUBLICAN YAYAYAYA
Gymoor
11-09-2004, 12:36
You dont know what it means to be a republican

I have a suspicion that Eldarana is spoofing Republicans.
Les Etats-Unis
11-09-2004, 13:17
well if i don't know what it means to be republican, and i'm just pointing out the actions of g.w.bush, who claims to be a republican....maybe my model for republican doesn't know what it means to be republican. i mean, if i'm wrong, and i'm just quoting what bush does...that must mean what bush does is not republican. what is he then?
Gymoor
11-09-2004, 14:47
well if i don't know what it means to be republican, and i'm just pointing out the actions of g.w.bush, who claims to be a republican....maybe my model for republican doesn't know what it means to be republican. i mean, if i'm wrong, and i'm just quoting what bush does...that must mean what bush does is not republican. what is he then?

Global Village Idiot?

(Bush, not you.)