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Bush is a true American.... TRAITOR!

Sumamba Buwhan
10-09-2004, 17:09
This is old news but noone seems to know about it and the supposed liberal media in America hasn't covered it (Well it's nto completely old news as there is more to the story now).

Forget about G Bush's service or lack thereof. Noone cares. But noone seems to care that G Bush is selling us all out to protect his money interests in Saudi Arabia either. Perhaps he is even protecting his own "good name".



SEPTEMBER 11: WHAT YOU "OUGHT NOT TO KNOW"
DOCUMENT 199-I AND THE FBI'S WORDS TO CHILL THE SOUL

Thursday, September 9, 2004
by Greg Palast

On November 9, 2001, when you could still choke on the dust in the air near Ground Zero, BBC Television received a call in London from a top-level US intelligence agent. He was not happy. Shortly after George W. Bush took office, he told us reluctantly, the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the FBI, "were told to back off the Saudis."

We knew that. In the newsroom, we had a document already in hand, marked, "SECRET" across the top and "199-I" - meaning this was a national
security matter.

The secret memo released agents to hunt down two member of the bin Laden family operating a "suspected terrorist organization" in the USA. It was dated September 13, 2001 -- two days too late for too many. What the memo indicates, corroborated by other sources, was that the agents had long wanted to question these characters ... but could not until after the attack. By that time, these bin Laden birds had flown their American nest.

Back to the high-level agent. I pressed him to tell me exactly which investigations were spiked. None of this interview dance was easy, requiring switching to untraceable phones. Ultimately, the insider said, "Khan Labs." At the time, our intelligence agencies were on the trail of Pakistan's Dr. Strangelove, A.Q. Khan, who built Pakistan's bomb and was selling its secrets to the Libyans. But once Bush and Condoleeza Rice's team took over, the source told us, agents were forced to let a hot trail go cold. Specifically, there were limits on tracing the Saudi money behind this "Islamic bomb."

Then we made another call, this time to an arms dealer in the Mideast. He confirmed that his partner attended a meeting in 1995 at the 5-star Hotel Royale Monceau in Paris where, allegedly, Saudi billionaires agreed to fund Al Qaeda fanatics. We understood it to be protection money, not really a sign of support for their attacks. Nevertheless, rule number one of investigative reporting is "follow the money" -- but the sheiks' piggy banks were effectively off-limits to the US agents during the Bush years. One of the men in the posh hotel's meeting of vipers happens to have been a Bush family business associate.

Before you jump to the wrong conclusion, let me tell you that we found no evidence -- none, zero, no kidding -- that George Bush knew about Al Qaeda's plan to attack on September 11. Indeed, the grim joke at BBC is that anyone accusing George Bush of knowing anything at all must have solid evidence. This is not a story of what George Bush knew but rather of his very-unfunny ignorance. And it was not stupidity, but policy: no asking Saudis uncomfortable questions about their paying off roving packs of killers, especially when those Saudis are so generous to Bush family businesses.

Yes, Bill Clinton was also a bit too tender towards the oil men of Arabia. But this you should know. In his last year in office, Clinton sent two delegations to the Gulf to suggest that the Royal family crack down on "charitable donations" from their kingdom to the guys who blew up our embassies.

But when a failed Texas oil man took over the White House in January 2001, demands on the Saudis to cut off terror funding simply stopped.

And what about the bin Laden "suspected terrorist organization"? Called the World Assembly of Muslim Youth, the group sponsors soccer teams and summer camps in Florida. BBC obtained a video of one camp activity, a speech exhorting kids on the heroism of suicide bombings and hostage takings. While WAMY draws membership with wholesome activities, it has also acted as a cover or front, say the Dutch, Indian and Bosnian governments, for the recruitment of jihadi killers.

Certainly, it was worth asking the bin Laden boys a few questions. But the FBI agents couldn't, until it was too late.

In November 2001, when BBC ran the report on the spike of investigations of Saudi funding of terror in November 2001, the Bush defenders whom we'd invited to respond on air dismissed the concerns of lower level FBI agents who'd passed over the WAMY documents. No action was taken on the group headed by the bin Ladens.

Then, in May this year, fifty FBI agents surrounded, invaded and sealed off WAMY's Virginia office. It was like a bad scene out of the 'Untouchables.' The raid took place three years after our report and long after the bin Ladens had waved bye-bye, it is not surprising that the feds seized mostly empty files and a lot of soccer balls.

Why now this belated move on the bin Laden's former operation? Why not right after the September 11 attack? This year's FBI raid occurred just days after an Islamist terror assault in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Apparently, messin' with the oil sheiks gets this Administration's attention. Falling towers in New York are only for Republican convention photo ops.

The 199-I memo was passed to BBC television by the sleuths at the National Security News Service in Washington. We authenticated it, added in our own sleuthing, then gave the FBI its say, expecting the usual, "It's baloney, a fake." But we didn't get the usual response. Rather, FBI headquarters said, "There are lots of things the intelligence community knows and other people ought not to know."

Ought not to know?

What else ought we not to know, Mr. President? And when are we supposed to forget it?

Yes, there is a lot of stuff we can call Bush on... I think that the Republicans want us to focus on his National Gaurd "service" because it gets our attention off the more daming things, like his horrid environmental record.

Boycott Bush!!! :p
CaptainLegion
10-09-2004, 17:19
Here is another good article you can read!!!!

Sentient Non-Idiots For Kerry
Repubs pick a fight about Vietnam while Bush ruins America right now? Is the nation drunk?

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Friday, August 27, 2004


And isn't it funny how at least 13 members of Congress have actually requested that the United Nations monitor this year's U.S. presidential election, just because, just in case, just to ensure there's no voter rolling and election rigging and chad hanging and outright shameless Florida reaming like last time? And isn't it even more funny how, when firebrand U.S. Rep. Corrine Brown, from Florida, brought the issue up on the floor of Congress, she was actually shouted down by the Republicans, scolded that she was out of order and told her comments should be stricken from the record?
And they all screamed and stomped and huffed and puffed and said no way should there be any oversight of this year's election, even though there is indeed a gross pile of mounting evidence that there's nothing stopping BushCo from simply stealing the election all over again. Isn't that funny?
It's enough to make you laugh 'til you gag. And choke.
And move to Canada.
And isn't it hilarious how the absolute worst thing the Right has been able to dredge up about John Kerry is that he might sort of maybe have exaggerated some facts about his various Vietnam medals and acts of and valor and deeds of astounding heroism, which is sort of like saying well sure you saved 10 babies from that burning building, but jeez, you were wearing special shoes at the time and by the way couldn't you have saved 11? Traitor!
And how hard should we guffaw while we note that, as Kerry was volunteering in Vietnam and earning his medals and risking his life in the most volatile and ugly and pointless and lethal and hideous war in American history unless you count Iraq, which you really really should, Dubya was "serving" in the Air National Guard, which we all know translates to mean "hangin' down in Tijuana slamming tequila shooters and annoying the waitresses, all while praising Jesus that he had a daddy who could keep him away from scary complicated violent stuff."
Whoa. Let me take that back. That was totally out of line and inappropriate and disrespectful of our fine incoherent president, and I have absolutely no proof that Dubya was such an embarrassment, such an incompetent AWOL serviceman. Very sorry.
After all, as I've mentioned in this column before, no one really knows what Bush was doing all those blurry, gin-soaked years in the National Guard. No one knows, because all of Dubya's military-service records just recently disappeared from Pentagon archives. Poof! Just like that! And then some of the missing payroll records were magically "found" again, though they still don't answer any questions regarding Bush's whereabouts that year. Imagine! Isn't it funny? What a thing.
So, let's see: Bona-fide war hero turned incredibly articulate, educated, gifted Vietnam War protester and respected senator on one side, alcoholic AWOL failed-businessman born-again pampered daddy's boy evangelical Christian on the other. Is this really the contest? Bush slugs gin and tonics like Evian while Kerry is accused of ... what again? Not being incredibly heroic enough? Wow.
This is not, apparently, a hallucination. Kerry really is being forced to defend his well-documented war record, despite how all the proofs are there, in public view, on the candidate's own Web site, with nothing to hide and for all to see, whereas Dubya was (and still is) a famously inept embarrassment to the military, and is being forced to defend nothing about his own spoiled spoon-fed life, as he humiliates the nation at every utterance and attacks Kerry (and, by extension, John McCain) via GOP-sponsored henchmen while large chunks of his own embarrassing records have just, um, "disappeared."
What, too bitter? Resentful? Too much like I advocate stringing Karl Rove up by his large intestine and slapping him with a rainbow flag until he cries? All apologies.
Hey, it happens. Sometimes you just gotta purge. Vent. Let it all out. Because, really, it all makes you ask: Is everyone on drugs? Mass delusional? Are we just blind? Or is the vicious GOP spin machine really that powerful? Why, yes, yes, it is. And isn't it just the funniest thing?
But, wait, there's more. The GOP is also accusing Kerry of a nasty bout of "flip flopping" on a handful of issues. Griping that he's changed his mind on a few key pieces of legislation, not the least of which is his support for war on Iraq. And the USA Patriot Act.
Which is, you know, sort of true. But, then again, not really, not considering how nearly every single congressperson was equally duped by the vicious GOP war machine, the outright WMD lies and BushCo's post-9/11 propaganda and the invidious USA Patriot Act midnight ream-through. Hell, Kerry was just as misled as the rest of us. Is Kerry culpable for his own choices and for making errors in judgment and for not always being absolutely flawlessly progressive in his decisions? Hell, yes. But does his record of such errors pale in comparison to Bush's mile-high ream of lies and flip-flops and outright slaps in the face of your humanity? Oh my God yes, yes, it does.
But lo, let us not hold back any longer. Let us now laugh out loud, hold our sides in pain, gasp for air as we look at the BushCo "flip flop" record, in sum. Let us observe the short list of issues about which BushCo has either completely reversed his position, or has simply openly lied to the nation about to further his administration's shockingly small-minded, self-serving corporate agenda:
The creation of the 9/11 commission. The Iraq WMD investigation. The Israeli/Palestine conflict. Nation building. Same-sex marriage. Veterans' benefits. The value of Osama bin Laden. The Saddam/al Qaeda link. North Korea. The U.N. vote on Iraq. "Mission accomplished." Ahmed Chalabi. Steel tariffs. The Department of Homeland Security. Campaign-finance reform. Energy policy. Hybrid cars. The deficit. Assault weapons. Abortion. Science. Global warming. The environment.
And the list, as they say, goes on. And on. And on.
It's a masterful deflection by the GOP spin doctors, really, away from Bush's truly appalling record of flagrant deceit and his title as the hands-down worse environmental president in the history of the United States, toward Kerry's much more highly respected record, wherein he has, among other accomplishments, earned the highest possible rating from various international environmental groups.
And, finally, isn't it funny -- in a nauseating, soul-mauling sort of way -- that 52 American soldiers have died in BushCo's completely useless little Iraq war just this month alone. How very touching, their noble sacrifice. Too bad Bush doesn't care. Let us just laugh and laugh at how the media barely covers these pedestrian, boring deaths anymore, instead allowing the GOP to turn the debate into one about a miserable, lost war that happened nearly 30 years ago, all while U.S. soldiers continue to die every day, right now, for no justifiable reason whatsoever.
Yes, let us laugh until we cry. Let us note how the Bush-induced death toll is now up to 964 U.S. soldiers -- a staggering 855 above the total since the infamous, insulting "Mission accomplished" quip -- which is, if the GOP plays it just so, right on track to reach 1,000 U.S. dead by the time the Republican convention kicks into high gear. What fun!
And that 1,000th soldier will fall in abject pain, his or her life utterly wasted for a cause that never really existed, that no one actually believes in, that was all built on a lie to begin with. And he or she will die just as all the war hawks and all the right-wing homophobes and all the cigar-chompin' corporate CEOs gather in New York and pop their champagne and cheer the true triumvirate o' GOP happiness: God, guns and money.
Yes, it's enough to make you laugh out loud. Until you don't.

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Strahds Barovia
10-09-2004, 17:23
This is why Farenheight 911 was so damning. This is a legitimate issue. If the Democrats were smart (and apparently they are not), they would be putting up commercials with this type of content. This would be an effective issue and a germaine issue to his war on terror.

Why they aren't doing it, I can't even begin to guess unless its not true. It kind of makes you wish that we had some impartial inquery that didn't involve career politicians and was a 3rd party that we could get facts from.
Dogerton
10-09-2004, 17:28
God Bless the BBC
Jovianica
10-09-2004, 17:28
This is old news but noone seems to know about it and the supposed liberal media in America hasn't covered it (Well it's nto completely old news as there is more to the story now).
Source, please? If you've got a link to this, I want to spread it around....
Sumamba Buwhan
10-09-2004, 17:32
The DEms are selling us out too... but I think they always have. look at their complacency.

We should be hearing about how Bush fought againt a 9/11 commission being formed.

We should hear about how Condoleza wouldnt show up to the 9/11 commission.

We should hear about how Bush refused to testify under oath and wouldnt testify at all without Uncle Dick there.

the list is long but we dont hear a peep from the Dems. I swear it's gotta be a secret society conspiracy since both sides are full of Freemasons and Skull and Bones jerk offs.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-09-2004, 17:33
Source, please? If you've got a link to this, I want to spread it around....

http://www.Gregpalast.com
Roach-Busters
10-09-2004, 17:35
So, let's see: Bona-fide war hero turned incredibly articulate, educated, gifted Vietnam War protester and respected senator on one side, alcoholic AWOL failed-businessman born-again pampered daddy's boy evangelical Christian on the other. Is this really the contest? Bush slugs gin and tonics like Evian while Kerry is accused of ... what again? Not being incredibly heroic enough? Wow.

Calling Kerry a 'war hero' is like calling Hitler 'pro-Semitic.'
BastardSword
10-09-2004, 17:45
Calling Kerry a 'war hero' is like calling Hitler 'pro-Semitic.'
Seeing as Hitler was pro-himself Kerry is a war hero. (Note: Hitler was a jew)
Roach-Busters
10-09-2004, 17:48
Seeing as Hitler was pro-himself Kerry is a war hero. (Note: Hitler was a jew)

Hitler was a Jew? :eek: I never knew that.

Okay, lemme rephrase it, then. Calling Kerry a war hero is like calling Karl Marx a free-market capitalist.
Kryozerkia
10-09-2004, 17:49
Seeing as Hitler was pro-himself Kerry is a war hero. (Note: Hitler was a jew)
BS got you there, RB. That you can't argue... BS does present plausible logic here. ^_^ nicely done.
Kryozerkia
10-09-2004, 17:51
Hitler was a Jew? :eek: I never knew that.

Okay, lemme rephrase it, then. Calling Kerry a war hero is like calling Karl Marx a free-market capitalist.
Calling Bush a great president is like calling Stalin a crusader for human rights.
Demented Hamsters
10-09-2004, 17:51
Then, in May this year, fifty FBI agents surrounded, invaded and sealed off WAMY's Virginia office. It was like a bad scene out of the 'Untouchables.' The raid took place three years after our report and long after the bin Ladens had waved bye-bye, it is not surprising that the feds seized mostly empty files and a lot of soccer balls.

Maybe the FBI get the same training as the LAPD. You know, just 3 months after Wacko Jacko admits on World-wide TV that he likes sleeping with boys and does it regularly, do they rush over and descend onto his den of filth.
Makes me confident in US intelligence and law enforcement to protect the World from terrorists and kiddie-diddlers.
Maybe instead of spending billions on wire-tapping and satellite technology, they should instead buy a tv and watch BBC once in a while.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-09-2004, 17:59
hehe... we are all calling for the Dems to grow a spine (I've heard on TV and the radio) and everyone can see that they are rolling over for the Reps (even Bill Clinton said he wants to fight back on the Daily Show). So what the hell is the Dems problem? It's like they WANT Bush as President. They HAVe to be in cahoots. This whole thing is a charade to keep us focused on trivialities. Someone needs to beat these party leaders like red-headed step-children for their insolence.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-09-2004, 18:49
I guess thats the liberal media for ya... always finding all the damning evidence they can about Bush and constantly playing on it till our ears are bleeding liberal propaghanda. oh wait...
Roach-Busters
10-09-2004, 18:58
Calling Bush a great president is like calling Stalin a crusader for human rights.

When did I call Bush a great President? :confused:
Sumamba Buwhan
13-09-2004, 03:05
You know you have a mental disability when you call Bush a great President
The What Man
13-09-2004, 03:12
You know you have a mental disability when you call Bush a great President

:rolleyes:
Sumamba Buwhan
13-09-2004, 17:47
Bush was so effective in Afganistan because of Clintons military.

The Russians tried for ages to do it and couldn't and then in comes Clintons military and wipes them out like it was nothing, thans to Clintons data-centric warfare.
Fat Rich People
13-09-2004, 17:54
I don't know whether or not to believe this. However, it has a lot of good points.

That reason is more than enough for me to not vote bush 2004. To even think that the president of the US is capable of doing something like this is rather disturbing.
Eldarana
13-09-2004, 20:31
Wow these extreme liberal threads keep popping up and no one cares.
Sumamba Buwhan
13-09-2004, 20:50
Wow these extreme liberal threads keep popping up and no one cares.


awww it's so cute when you get so flustered when you have nothing productive to say.

How is this an extreme liberal thread? Oh wait yer just a troll aren't you? Okay... keep on trolling for donuts my friend. <3 :fluffle:
Eldarana
13-09-2004, 20:59
Thanks don't mind if I do. Especially the ones with white frosting and sprinkles.
Misterio
13-09-2004, 21:44
Hitler was a Jew? :eek: I never knew that.

Okay, lemme rephrase it, then. Calling Kerry a war hero is like calling Karl Marx a free-market capitalist.

Kerry was a war hero. He saved a man's life under heavy gunfire. Who's life did Bush save (besides his own)?

I suggest you go here: http://www.independent-media.tv/itemprint.cfm?fmedia_id=7073&fcategory_desc=The%20Zero%20and%20The%20Hero