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Bush's numbers are up... and my spirits are down

http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2004.html

Kerry can win if he can carry either Florida or Ohio, or force a draw and a congressional vote if he can take New Hampshire, Wisconsin and Nevada. This draw will turn into a win if Richie Robb of West Virginia decides to vote against Bush (either for Kerry or any third party candidate)

According to Newsweek, Kerry has a slight lead. But....

Vote Nader 2004 ;)

Bush is going down by a member of his own party, becuase of his dirty smear campaigning.


Poetic Justice!

Kerry 04!

scary...
vote for popeye... he'll always provide us with spinach... and protect us from the evil.:D

Nader is not going to win at this stage.. so those about to vote nader.. vote kerry.. even though he has flaws he's not a bush.. lol

Vote for Nader, unless you're in Missouri, Nevada, Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Iowa, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Oregon, Minnesota, Maine, Michigan or Washington.

As predicted by yours truly. :)

Yay Bush.

Does it bother anyone that the two most powerful men in the country are called "Bush" and "Dick"? And why haven't I heard more dirty jokes connected to this?

Bush's numbers are up... and my spirits are down

Speaking of down...I think I noticed a headline somewhere that said Cheney's popularity is WAY down. Talk about your weakest link...

At least he finally came out of whatever bunker he's been hiding in the last 3 years in time for the election. It seemed the guy was no where to be seen until the last couple months

Let's get some updated numbers shall we?

Race 2004 (http://www.race2004.net/):

If Nader is on the ballot
Kerry wins the popular vote with 55,327,655 votes (49.57%). Bush places second with 53,774,323 votes (48.18%).

Bush: 254 Kerry: 275 Tie/Undecided: 9


If Nader is not on the ballot
States lacking sufficient polling data to determine a winner: Colorado

Kerry wins the popular vote with 55,322,298 votes (49.57%). Bush places second with 53,856,322 votes (48.26%).

Bush: 254 Kerry: 275 Tie/Undecided: 9

Electoral Vote Predictor (http://www.electoral-vote.com/):
Kerry 264 Bush 222 (Many states tied in a dead heat)

Remember, the electoral prediction site updated right in the middle of Bush's bounce with Time and Newsweek's bad numbers not corrected.

you have to remember that the polls aren't very accurate. They would have to interview every amarican whose registered to vote for it to be a good estimate.

Yea!! Lets go Bush! Beat Kerry!

As for the polls, yea they pretty much mean nothing because the debates haven't started yet. The debates will decide this :)

Let's get some updated numbers shall we?

Race 2004 (http://www.race2004.net/):

If Nader is on the ballot
Kerry wins the popular vote with 55,327,655 votes (49.57%). Bush places second with 53,774,323 votes (48.18%).

Bush: 254 Kerry: 275 Tie/Undecided: 9


If Nader is not on the ballot
States lacking sufficient polling data to determine a winner: Colorado

Kerry wins the popular vote with 55,322,298 votes (49.57%). Bush places second with 53,856,322 votes (48.26%).

Bush: 254 Kerry: 275 Tie/Undecided: 9

Electoral Vote Predictor (http://www.electoral-vote.com/):
Kerry 264 Bush 222 (Many states tied in a dead heat)

Remember, the electoral prediction site updated right in the middle of Bush's bounce with Time and Newsweek's bad numbers not corrected.

But according to what you have here, there are 165 electoral Votes that are weak or barely. Theses states could still go to President Bush where as Bush only has 60 Electoral Votes that are Weak or barely!

Vote for Nader, unless you're in Missouri, Nevada, Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Iowa, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Oregon, Minnesota, Maine, Michigan or Washington.
I thought you were english. Shouldnt you be voting for Gordon Brown or something?

I thought you were english. Shouldnt you be voting for Gordon Brown or something?
Well, if he was in the ballot in my area...

But according to what you have here, there are 165 electoral Votes that are weak or barely. Theses states could still go to President Bush where as Bush only has 60 Electoral Votes that are Weak or barely!
Except you are losing, and time is running out. Cheers.

Does it bother anyone that the two most powerful men in the country are called "Bush" and "Dick"? And why haven't I heard more dirty jokes connected to this?

Don't forget "Colon".

Joke about the 'bush and 'dick' thing.

Why is America in such bad shape?

We're run by a Bush, a Dick, and a Colon.

PS:Go Bush.

I hope Bush win this year. I am ready for war. Its time we show the world that we don't take crap from these middle eastern people. To show them not to mess US again (9-11). :sniper: :mp5:

Sign,
Elite Marines :sniper:

I hope Bush win this year. I am ready for war. Its time we show the world that we don't take crap from these middle eastern people. To show them not to mess US again (9-11). :sniper: :mp5:

Sign,
Elite Marines :sniper:
Ah, yes, those Damn towelheads bombed New York. Let's nuke the fuckers, that will solve all of our problems.

I hope Bush win this year. I am ready for war. Its time we show the world that we don't take crap from these middle eastern people. To show them not to mess US again (9-11). :sniper: :mp5:

Sign,
Elite Marines :sniper:

Can't you just hear the Toby Keith music playing in the background? I wonder how much it drops the value of crude oil for it to be radioactive? I'm sure the Bush administration will lasso some creationist scientist into saying that radioactive oil is good for the environment, and if it isn't, it'll cost too much for industry to change.

I hope Bush win this year. I am ready for war. Its time we show the world that we don't take crap from these middle eastern people. To show them not to mess US again (9-11). :sniper: :mp5:

Sign,
Elite Marines :sniper:

:The biggest -rolleyes- smiley ever seen goes here:

8 weeks to go and it looks like the bounce that Time and Newsweek gave Bush is illusory, which isn't surprising considering the major methodological stunts they had to pull to get that bounce. Rasmussen, Zogby, Gallup and ARG have all come out in the last couple of days with polls that show Bush got a negligible bounce out of the convention. It ain't even close to being over yet.

I hope Bush win this year. I am ready for war. Its time we show the world that we don't take crap from these middle eastern people. To show them not to mess US again (9-11). :sniper: :mp5:

Sign,
Elite Marines :sniper:
I really, really hope you're just joking.

Do you honestly think it's a good idea for America to go psycho on the world?

8 weeks to go and it looks like the bounce that Time and Newsweek gave Bush is illusory, which isn't surprising.
It's not surprising that either candidate got little to no bounce from their conventions. Both sides are so entrenched in their support for one guy or the other. There are hardy any undecided voters.

I say go bush, but really its the choosing of the lesser of two evils. You decide :)

Does it bother anyone that the two most powerful men in the country are called "Bush" and "Dick"? And why haven't I heard more dirty jokes connected to this?

If you take the three most powerful men, they're a Bush, a Dick, and a Colon.

(Yes, I know I misspelled Colin. I did it so the joke would be clearer.)

Vote Badnarik, because he's not named after part of your anatomy!

Except you are losing, and time is running out. Cheers.

Cheers! Bush will win! I have no doubt about this.

Let's get some updated numbers shall we?

Race 2004 (http://www.race2004.net/):

If Nader is on the ballot
Kerry wins the popular vote with 55,327,655 votes (49.57%). Bush places second with 53,774,323 votes (48.18%).

Bush: 254 Kerry: 275 Tie/Undecided: 9


If Nader is not on the ballot
States lacking sufficient polling data to determine a winner: Colorado

Kerry wins the popular vote with 55,322,298 votes (49.57%). Bush places second with 53,856,322 votes (48.26%).

Bush: 254 Kerry: 275 Tie/Undecided: 9

Electoral Vote Predictor (http://www.electoral-vote.com/):
Kerry 264 Bush 222 (Many states tied in a dead heat)

Remember, the electoral prediction site updated right in the middle of Bush's bounce with Time and Newsweek's bad numbers not corrected.
The problem with your site, is that it automatically assumes all undecideds will vote for Kerry. That's how it got those numbers.

i' voting for my left foot my right foot is too dihonest for me...

Don't forget "Colon".
people have read my thread

I hope Bush win this year. I am ready for war. Its time we show the world that we don't take crap from these middle eastern people. To show them not to mess US again (9-11). :sniper: :mp5:

Sign,
Elite Marines :sniper:
"We put on some Wager when we make the attack run. Boys love it, scares the shit out of charlie."

Cheers! Bush will win! I have no doubt about this.

How much do you want to bet, little girl?

ok Bush needs to Win because how do you think Kerry is going to get all of the money he's promising for things...HE'S GOING TO TAX US ALL and thats not right.

The problem with your site, is that it automatically assumes all undecideds will vote for Kerry. That's how it got those numbers.
Actually, they don't. At all. Look at the sites.

"We put on some Wager when we make the attack run. Boys love it, scares the shit out of charlie."

Hmmm, "Die Walkürenrit" I guess (Ride of the Walk.in Eng.)? Well glad to see that I am not the only one with a superb taste. Hat of for ya sir :)

Bush will win, hands down, and I couldn't be happier. It scares me to think some lying loser like Kerry could ever be President. :)

Bush will win, hands down, and I couldn't be happier. It scares me to think some lying loser like Kerry could ever be President. :)
Lying loser as opposed to... what on Bush's side?

Actually, they don't. At all. Look at the sites.And besides, traditionally, in close elections undecideds break 3 to 1 for challengers, regardless of party affiliation, sometimes 4 to 1. Pollsters believe this is because it's the incumbent's job to sell him/herself before the voter gets to the poll, and if he/she hasn't closed the deal, then they're going to take a flyer on the challenger.

Tsk...tsk...tsk people. You should know that post-convention bounces mean nothing. Never have.

And what's whith this 'vote for the lesser of two evils' thing? FUCK THAT!

VOTE FOR THE MOST EVIL!

BUSH 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!

ok Bush needs to Win because how do you think Kerry is going to get all of the money he's promising for things...HE'S GOING TO TAX US ALL and thats not right.

As if allowing children to go without an education and thousands to go without jobs while catering to the corporate elite and financing a war fought on false premises while the developing world is still impoversihed by debt and American bullying is somehow right?

Bush's numbers are up... and my spirits are down

http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2004.html

Kerry can win if he can carry either Florida or Ohio, or force a draw and a congressional vote if he can take New Hampshire, Wisconsin and Nevada. This draw will turn into a win if Richie Robb of West Virginia decides to vote against Bush (either for Kerry or any third party candidate)
Don't worry too much. This will cause Kerry to fight harder, and Bush supporters to get cockier. I saw on the news a campaign rally where anti-Kerry hecklers were there. Kerry said they were sent by the Bush campaign. Statements like that make me less optimistic for Bush's prospects.

Newsweek and Time's numbers (not the bounce) have been basically confirmed by a Gallup poll that has identical support for Bush (52%) and near-identical support for Kerry.

Newsweek and Time's numbers (not the bounce) have been basically confirmed by a Gallup poll that has identical support for Bush (52%) and near-identical support for Kerry.
Only if you look at the likely voter model, which is, well, heavy on the extrapolation and thin on the methodology. In the registered voter model, Gallup has it as a one point race.

Only if you look at the likely voter model, which is, well, heavy on the extrapolation and thin on the methodology. In the registered voter model, Gallup has it as a one point race.

You can't use big words like that if you want Bush supporters to understand you.

ok Bush needs to Win because how do you think Kerry is going to get all of the money he's promising for things...HE'S GOING TO TAX US ALL and thats not right.Tax is the price we pay to live in a civilized society. Without tax, the government doesn't work.

ok Bush needs to Win because how do you think Kerry is going to get all of the money he's promising for things...HE'S GOING TO TAX US ALL and thats not right.

As opposed to the Bush administration who has spend ridiculously, meaning that taxes will HAVE to be raised eventually. Also, when you have this large of a deficit (the largest ever,) that means the amount of interest the US has to pay goes up...so basically, the Bushies have added a chunk of spending that does absolutely nothing except pay interest...that will eventually have to be paid for with a TAX increase!!! What's worse, the person who realized that things should be paid for as you go, or the spineless bastard who causes waste by making the NEXT guy have to pay for it (meaning us!!!)

How naive are you "Oh no, evil democrats tax us!" Bush-fools?