NationStates Jolt Archive


Should we ban all video games?

Faithfull-freedom
07-09-2004, 05:15
No, Yes, maybe?
CthulhuFhtagn
07-09-2004, 05:19
Why the hell would we ban all video games?!
The Gaza Strip
07-09-2004, 05:19
Who the hell said yes? Someone's a dumbass.
New Fuglies
07-09-2004, 05:20
Just not good Christian video Games.
Colodia
07-09-2004, 05:37
What the flying ****?
Shiznayo
07-09-2004, 05:44
Seriously, explain why you would want to. Is taking away a form of entertainment going to make us a better country?
Faithfull-freedom
07-09-2004, 05:51
Seriously, explain why you would want to. Is taking away a form of entertainment going to make us a better country?

They say that violent video games make people do violent acts, therefor if we banned them it would solve that problem.















Under the same logic that a gun causes more crime well the violent video game is the cause of more violent crime. Both are tools and could be used for a persons entire life without taking another animal or humans life. But it all falls on the eyes of the beholder of that tool. So next time I hear my state calling for banning violent video games i'll remember what kind of logic I should be using
Shiznayo
07-09-2004, 05:55
Under the same logic that a gun causes more crime well the violent video game is the cause of more violent crime. Both are tools and could be used for a persons entire life without taking another animal or humans life. But it all falls on the eyes of the beholder of that tool. So next time I hear my state calling for banning violent video games i'll remember what kind of logic I should be using
What state do you live in? I heard Wisconsin banned Jet Grind Radio for dreamcast because it, "Encouraged kids to hate police."
Walther Brandl
07-09-2004, 06:34
Let's just ban living while we're at it.
New Fuglies
07-09-2004, 06:38
Let's just ban living while we're at it.
Everything but guns!
:eek::sniper:
Vived
07-09-2004, 06:46
What a stupid idea... banning videogames, this makes teenagers lives that much worse, causing suicide to increase

why dont we ban videogames, it sounds good, we may aswell murder all teenagers, because theyre not good...


Get with the program
Manumethen
07-09-2004, 06:50
its not video games that are the problem its a culture that promotes voilence as a solution to problems throght several form s of media that is the problem voilent games such as manhunt and the gta series are not the sole source of the problem
The Sadistic Skinhead
07-09-2004, 06:52
What a stupid idea... banning videogames, this makes teenagers lives that much worse, causing suicide to increase

why dont we ban videogames, it sounds good, we may aswell murder all teenagers, because theyre not good...


Get with the program


What Program?? have you ever seen that episode of the outer limits with ryan phillipe in it and he was in a fancy private school?
Upitatanium
07-09-2004, 07:05
Please, just become some assholes killed after playing violent gaves does not make the games responsible for the deaths.

If any form of media were resonsible then they would also ban "Catcher in the Rye" and The Bible since people have killed because of things they read in those books.

And just because Klebold and Harris made a Doom skin representing their school doesn't mean this reinforced their behavior. If the game didn't exist they would just spend more time out in a field with guns and tin cans with the names of classmates scribbled on them for target practice.

These guys were crazy LONG BEFORE they even seen their first violent video game. Don't blame video games. Its just an excuse use by the guilty to defer blame or people too afraid to tackle and real causes.

Don't let the tragedy of it all make you look for something to demonize to make you feel less scared. Some things can't be rationalized. Crazy is the reason they went crazy, not video games.
EvilGnomes
07-09-2004, 07:11
"TV doesn't make psychos, TV makes psychos more creative"

I forget who said that, but it seems appropriate.

see, it's not that violent games make people violent - just that violent people are more likely to enjoy violent games.

Thus, violent games are probably reducing violent crime by keeping psychos busy :D
Neo Cyber Space
07-09-2004, 07:12
While I was visting some relatives in Pheonix, I was baby sitting my cousins kid, he had just gotten an X-Box and was all excited cause my uncle had bout it for him along with some games. the games were as follows
The Hulk
Kung Fu Chaos
Simpsons Hit and Run
and this last one struck me as odd, keep in mind this kid is only about 5 or 6 years old
Grand Theft Auto 3
Now, of course little kids are going to emulate what they see in video games if they play at young ages, They dont know what is wrong to do and what is right, reality or non-reality, :headbang: Of course all games look bad when you look at the little kids playing it, but when you come to a certian age you relalize that in the end, IT IS JUST LIKE READING A BOOK, yes there are violent books out there too, so mothers who want to shealter there children from profanity like GTA or Cartoons Violence, Drugs, or Other stuff, they have all been around long before games.

I am sorry for the long rant and if it didnt make sense to some but i just gotta quit before i explode this is all i can say for now :mad:
EvilGnomes
07-09-2004, 07:13
Why the hell would 3 people vote yes? how could you possibly think non-violent games should be banned!?!
Tarry Bowel Movements
07-09-2004, 07:15
I voted yes coz it's just such a ridiculous poll. :D
TheOneRule
07-09-2004, 07:41
I voted no because I feel it's the responsibility of the person playing the game, or their parents to make sure that the video game is entertainment, not some sort of life coach.

My 9 year old son plays video games like Tony Hawk Pro Skater series. He even played Medal of Honor Frontline with me this last week. THPS3 shows bails that would probably kill someone if they actually fell like that, but the skater just gets up and keeps on skating. My son remarked at how rediculous that was, so I know he's aware of reality vs. non reality.

That all being said, anyone ever see the show on PBS called Frontier House? In it several families life for 4 months like it was on the frontier, from building their own homes, raising their own livestock, farming etc. The point is that there was a 12-13 year old boy who once said that back in the real world, he was constantly bored. His family was well off so he had a PS2, Xbox, PC computer, Gameboy, etc. When he was on Frontier House, he said he was almost never bored, and he never missed any of his electronic entertainments.

Food for thought.
Homicidal Pacifists
07-09-2004, 13:56
Just not good Christian video Games.
Nice Oxymoron
:D
Dacowookies
07-09-2004, 14:05
Just not good Christian video Games.
which ones are they then?...hunt the abortionist?..find all the bits for a cross for jesus?...may as well ban books while your'e at it :)
Legless Pirates
07-09-2004, 14:16
Just not good Christian video Games.
Make a Bible game, where you're god and get to kill all the infidels all the time. You know, put all cute animals on a boat with your Hand of God first and then drown those filthy humans. Then influence a football game and laugh at Maradonna because no one believes him
Homicidal Pacifists
07-09-2004, 14:16
which ones are they then?...hunt the abortionist?..find all the bits for a cross for jesus?...may as well ban books while your'e at it :)
I've actually played a Christian game once a while ago for the NES. Basically everybody you come across is a sinner and you have to go make them repent by stoning them. And when you whack then they go down on their knees and pray just before vanishing. They have a minigame where they give bible verses and you have to determine who said them. It starts off all fine and dandy and humorous because you get to stone people. But the longer you play the more you realize how lame it really is.
:(
Legless Pirates
07-09-2004, 14:21
I've actually played a Christian game once a while ago for the NES. Basically everybody you come across is a sinner and you have to go make them repent by stoning them. And when you whack then they go down on their knees and pray just before vanishing. They have a minigame where they give bible verses and you have to determine who said them. It starts off all fine and dandy and humorous because you get to stone people. But the longer you play the more you realize how lame it really is.
:(
WHAHAHAHAHAAA

I played one with a moustached guy with a red cap, who had to save jesus (well, some guy in a dress, I think Jesus) from the devil (he breathed fire) and collect loads of coins for the church so they can live filthy rich and eat mushrooms so you think you're reall big. Ooh the guy had a brother with a moustache and a green cap.
Homicidal Pacifists
07-09-2004, 14:43
Now you made me go out and find what the game’s called. It’s called Spiritual Warfare. I looked more closely at it and it says that you’re hucking pear’s at them. In other words you’re basically bribing them to be good. No wander they keep coming back when I leave and reenter the screen. If I were to just stone them to death they wouldn’t come back and it might serve as a warning to all other sinners. But by bribing them my character is only reinforcing their transgressions. My mom does the same thing to the dogs. Anytime they start annoying her she just gives them a milk bone. Now they annoy her five times a day at least. And only her too. I keep trying to tell her to stop but it doesn’t seem to be sinking in.
:(
Legless Pirates
07-09-2004, 14:45
Now you made me go out and find what the game’s called. It’s called Spiritual Warfare. I looked more closely at it and it says that you’re hucking pear’s at them. In other words you’re basically bribing them to be good. No wander they keep coming back when I leave and reenter the screen. If I were to just stone them to death they wouldn’t come back and it might serve as a warning to all other sinners. But by bribing them my character is only reinforcing their transgressions. My mom does the same thing to the dogs. Anytime they start annoying her she just gives them a milk bone. Now they annoy her five times a day at least. And only her too. I keep trying to tell her to stop but it doesn’t seem to be sinking in.
:(
WHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

and you thought you were stoning them to death
Homicidal Pacifists
07-09-2004, 14:48
WHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

and you thought you were stoning them to death
:mad:
Oh yeah, rub it in.
:(
Legless Pirates
07-09-2004, 14:52
:mad:
Oh yeah, rub it in.
:(
auw... tummy... hurting.... must...stop....laughing
Homicidal Pacifists
07-09-2004, 14:55
*Gives the Pirate a punch in the gut*
Legless Pirates
07-09-2004, 14:58
*Gives the Pirate a punch in the gut*
tummy...hurting.... even more
Kryozerkia
07-09-2004, 15:18
Banning games is ignorant.

After all, the average gamer has better things to do than go out and act on violent impulse and kill in the same way (s)he did in the game; they'd much rather vegetate in front of the computer monitor. Afterall it requires more effort than clicking the mouse! ;)

But, really, where's the proof that video games have caused the problems with today's level of unprecedented violence...

Now, if video games are the root cause of violence, who can tell me what games Hitler played? What about the games that Stalin played? Or, what about Atilla the Hun, or Vlad the Impaler...?
Superpower07
07-09-2004, 15:36
Banning games is not a good idea. If you don't like some game, just avoid it! By censoring stuff, people won't take resposibility for their own silly sensitivities to stuff
Pudding Pies
07-09-2004, 16:18
No, Yes, maybe?

I think we should just ban idiots :upyours:
Faithfull-freedom
07-09-2004, 16:29
I think we should just ban idiots

You dont see how stupid it is to ban games? It has happened across America, and it will continue to happen in the future. The dumbasses that have been banning video games are using the same logic that the opposite side uses to attempt to ban a gun. They blame it on the game for the action of the idiot. The others blame it on the gun for the action of the idiot. There are people that want to ban skateboards all because of the actions of the idiots. There are people that want to ban cellphones all because of the actions of some idiot. There are people that want to ban music all because of some action of an idiot.... it will continue to be a vindictive war if we continue to allow it to be that way... as I was saying I dislike Bush as much as the next person but if I have to choose between banning music and video games or skateboards or a right that has existed for over a 100 years. I am going to vote for the person that wants to ban all video games and musical lyrics and anything else a teenager finds enjoyable, before I would vote for someone that wants to have a law that says it bans assault weapons but still you can have them. Sorry but I guess you have made me from a comprimising person that enjoys freedoms of everyone to a person that wants only the freedoms I enjoy. Sound familliar?
Shotagon
07-09-2004, 16:30
AFAIK, the laws that were passed or are trying to be passed are made by politicians that want to be reelected. They're just trying to get more votes any way they can, apparently. You cannot ban videogames since that would be unconstitutional in the US anyway - they're no different than books, just an alternate medium with which to portray the story.
Faithfull-freedom
07-09-2004, 16:40
AFAIK, the laws that were passed or are trying to be passed are made by politicians that want to be reelected. They're just trying to get more votes any way they can, apparently. You cannot ban videogames since that would be unconstitutional in the US anyway - they're no different than books, just an alternate medium with which to portray the story.

Dude, open up your eyes video games are not protected by the Constitution. It is up to the community's to ban musical lyrics or video games and books they do not like in their own neighborhood. Here in my community they are talking about banning a game named 'man hunt' I have not seen or heard of it but for some reason people are going to attempt to ban it in stores in this area(what is so bad about it compared to other games?). Same with the old NWA records now you have to buy a censored one in our stores here. It is up to the community to ban anything inlcuding limitations on Guns. I think this is the right way to do things but I think we have the wrong people doing the things that are happening. We shouldn't be so quick to ban a game or cd or a tool or a recreational toy (skateboard, gun, your d1Ld0 or whatever). I can see that all of these are being banned because of vindictivness not because we want to do whats 'right'. lol It really is laughable to see someone tout the two dipshits we have running but since I will be forced to pick one or the other just as you will be, I am picking the least hated dipshit in my eyes. Bush. But I really do hope we someday come to the point where we dont have to choose between two narrow minded retards over what is really right for each one of us. Until then I guess we will be waiting.
Pudding Pies
07-09-2004, 16:54
You dont see how stupid it is to ban games? It has happened across America, and it will continue to happen in the future. The dumbasses that have been banning video games are using the same logic that the opposite side uses to attempt to ban a gun. They blame it on the game for the action of the idiot. The others blame it on the gun for the action of the idiot. There are people that want to ban skateboards all because of the actions of the idiots. There are people that want to ban cellphones all because of the actions of some idiot. There are people that want to ban music all because of some action of an idiot.... it will continue to be a vindictive war if we continue to allow it to be that way... as I was saying I dislike Bush as much as the next person but if I have to choose between banning music and video games or skateboards or a right that has existed for over a 100 years. I am going to vote for the person that wants to ban all video games and musical lyrics and anything else a teenager finds enjoyable, before I would vote for someone that wants to have a law that says it bans assault weapons but still you can have them. Sorry but I guess you have made me from a comprimising person that enjoys freedoms of everyone to a person that wants only the freedoms I enjoy. Sound familliar?

What sounds familiar? What the hell does my post have to do with any of what you just said?! I said ban idiots. I didn't say ban video games (of which I play A LOT in my free time!). Also, you would rather vote for someone that would ban video games, musical lyrics, and skateboards over someone who would rather have civilians with assault rifles? What kind of logical reasoning is that? Sure, the 2nd amendment allows us to own guns for defense but assault rifles are far from necessary and can be abused to easily by a careless individual (I'd rather have 1 bullet go off by someone with an itchy trigger finger than 20). But you'd rather ban cultural items that in no way constitute a danger to anyone?
Homicidal Pacifists
07-09-2004, 17:00
I think we should just ban idiots :upyours:
I think we should give them mercy.
Faithfull-freedom
07-09-2004, 17:09
What sounds familiar? What the hell does my post have to do with any of what you just said?! I said ban idiots. I didn't say ban video games (of which I play A LOT in my free time!). Also, you would rather vote for someone that would ban video games, musical lyrics, and skateboards over someone who would rather have civilians with assault rifles? What kind of logical reasoning is that? Sure, the 2nd amendment allows us to own guns for defense but assault rifles are far from necessary and can be abused to easily by a careless individual (I'd rather have 1 bullet go off by someone with an itchy trigger finger than 20). But you'd rather ban cultural items that in no way constitute a danger to anyone?

I play video games when I have the time and money to also, along with listen to music. The so called assualt weapons are just semi-automatic weapons and they have been in use by our civilians for over 100 years. So yes I will choose something that has over 100 years of heritage and safe uses (all law abiding aw owners are safe) over some cultural toy or game that has been around for far less (since we all are forced to pick, ban AW or ban what bush wants to ban, i'll pick whatever bush wants to ban in that choice). Also the studies that prove that violent video games make people more violent are no less biased than the studies that say owning a legal semi-auto makes you more violent. Its all a bunch of hogwash lol and apparently alot of people fall for the both of them.
Commie-Pinko Scum
07-09-2004, 17:32
I don't know what's more of an incitement to think that violence is cool - violent videogames, or army recruiters? The army come to town every so often here, and the school I go to organises compulsory trips to army recruitment days, where you can watch shooting practice, etc. What about the government that declares war and glorifies the machinery and culture of war? That you have a right to kill some people.

The mind boggles.