Positive thoughts re:Bush & Kerry
Frisbeeteria
06-09-2004, 19:21
Let's try something different.
List something that the candidate you oppose has done well or done right.
Did you admire Bush's stance post 9/11? Was Kerry speaking as a man-of-conscience in his reports on Vietnam? Did the Bush Administration's policy changes affect you in any positive way? Did one of Kerry's Senate votes help promote a program you support?
Despite campaign portrayals to the contrary, both Bush and Kerry are smart enough to serve the public, honorable in their own minds and to their own constituencies, and actually not the Devil Incarnate. I get real tired of the constant bashing of both men from both sides, especially when it's demonstrably not true. I have significant policy issues with both sides, and each has promoted platforms and ideals I dislike. That doesn't make them evil, just different.
While I feel certain this will just devolve into yet another bashing thread, I hope you'll give it a try.
LiberalisticSociety
06-09-2004, 19:24
I like Bush's stance on welfare. If you don't have a job then you shouldn't recieve welfare. If you aren't able to get a job, that's a different story. If someone has a job and still can't afford to pay the bills, etc. the government should help.
Anticarnivoria
06-09-2004, 19:26
bush had some idea for "economic oppurtunity zones" or something...lower taxes in poorer districts to encourage growth there? I liked that
Ashmoria
06-09-2004, 19:27
i think that bush has done a good job putting a stranglehold on the finances of alqaida.
Greater Toastopia
06-09-2004, 19:27
Bush makes me feel confident about myself. Those Segways are tough.
LiberalisticSociety
06-09-2004, 19:35
Bush makes me feel confident about myself. Those Segways are tough.
Lmao.
Why hasn't any Bush supporters piped up?
Dempublicents
06-09-2004, 19:37
I think Bush had the right idea when he wanted to give the American people tax cuts - it is the implementation I disagree with on that count.
Pantylvania
06-09-2004, 19:41
Bush signed the National Do-Not-Call List into law
Incertonia
06-09-2004, 19:42
Here's my nice thing to say about Bush--he's unified and motivated the Democratic party.
LiberalisticSociety
06-09-2004, 19:42
Bush signed the National Do-Not-Call List into law
Damn telemarketers.... ;)
Fat Rich People
06-09-2004, 19:43
I think that Bush truly and honestly wants to make a positive difference on the US, and I respect that.
Bush is a man of good faith
Bush signed the Do-Not-Call List
Bush stays strong despite criticizm from half of his country and from all over the world
Bush invaded Afghanistan quickly to smoke out the Taliban
Bush showed the world what good the UN really is
Bush managed to find Saddam, and give him to Iraqi custody
There are actual progresses in a democratic Iraq
Blaksdria
06-09-2004, 19:49
John Kerry does have a nice signature and initials.
LiberalisticSociety
06-09-2004, 19:53
John Kerry does have a nice signature and initials.
Our first Bush supporter compliments Kerry's name?
:mad:
Dempublicents
06-09-2004, 19:57
Bush is a man of good faith
Bush signed the Do-Not-Call List
Bush stays strong despite criticizm from half of his country and from all over the world
Bush invaded Afghanistan quickly to smoke out the Taliban
Bush showed the world what good the UN really is
Bush managed to find Saddam, and give him to Iraqi custody
There are actual progresses in a democratic Iraq
Um....you're supposed to be saying something good about the candidate you *don't* support.
Incertonia
06-09-2004, 19:58
Yeah--I don't think the Bush supporters are getting into the spirit here. :D
Um....you're supposed to be saying something good about the candidate you *don't* support.
Maybe it WAS a bit much...pfft to you though!
The South Islands
06-09-2004, 20:03
I respected the fact that John Kerry stood up for what he believed to be right. Although I dont agree with how he went about it, it take a man with Cajoneas to do that.
PS, this thread is a nice change of pace
Blaksdria
06-09-2004, 20:53
Our first Bush supporter compliments Kerry's name?
:mad:
If I think of anything better I'll mention it.
Blaksdria
06-09-2004, 20:56
The ketchup is good.
Kraknokistan
06-09-2004, 21:03
Bush signed Do-Not-Call-List
Bush invaded Afghanistan
Bush chose a running mate who supports gay rights
Panhandlia
06-09-2004, 21:09
Kerry went to Vietnam instead of going to England or Canada or Russia, even if it was only after the draft rejected his application for a deferment. Kerry saw action, enough to get Purple Hearts, Bronze Star and Silver Star. Those aren't normally handed out.
Copiosa Scotia
06-09-2004, 21:13
John Kerry risked his life to defend this country.
Purly Euclid
06-09-2004, 21:20
I like Kerry as he seems to be sincere, and has very good intentions. He also volunteered for service in Vietnam, and while I'd call him a nutcase for that, it was extremely honorable to do. Policywise, I like his idea of a gas tax, as it is an excellent way to both create a more efficient economy, and giving the feds some extra bucks so they can keep income taxes low. In fact, I suspect someone will implement his idea in the next fifteen years.
Slack Baby
06-09-2004, 21:41
While I hate how much religion plays a part in Bush's governing of America, I'm impressed by the strength of his faith based convictions.
He refuses to let world opinion stand in the way of what he believes.
Now, if only he believed in just ideals.
Stephistan
06-09-2004, 21:42
I like Kerry as he seems to be sincere, and has very good intentions. He also volunteered for service in Vietnam, and while I'd call him a nutcase for that, it was extremely honorable to do. Policywise, I like his idea of a gas tax, as it is an excellent way to both create a more efficient economy, and giving the feds some extra bucks so they can keep income taxes low. In fact, I suspect someone will implement his idea in the next fifteen years.
Hehe Kerry hasn't voted in favour of a gas tax in over 10 years..lol
Umm, I think Bush was right to invade Afghanistan. Even though I believe whoever had been president at the time would have done so.
Incongruency
06-09-2004, 22:02
I don't like either of them, so here goes:
Kerry: Has put in place a very responsible, moderate, pro-free-trade economic policy team.
Bush: Made a speech last year in which he criticized the long-standing U.S. policy of supporting friendly dictatorships, rather than truly supporting democratization throughout the world. I'm hoping, should he be reelected, that the speech will become actual policy. Also, was the first U.S. President to declare the creation of an independent Palestinian state as official policy.
Uhh... let me think... what has Kerry done well...
I can't think of anything right now. There's probably something I know though.
He won three purple hearts, that's nice! And a silver star, I think, or something like that.
Siljhouettes
06-09-2004, 22:17
I like Bush's stance on abortion.
Dempublicents
06-09-2004, 22:18
I like Bush's stance on abortion.
Just for clarity, pre-election Bush or post-election Bush?
Godrinth
06-09-2004, 22:19
I, Bush Supporter, respect the fact that John Kerry did go and did fight in Vietnam, he shouldn't have made it a major issue of his campaign, but I still repsect and like the fact that he did serve and fight in Vietnam.
Siljhouettes
06-09-2004, 22:31
Just for clarity, pre-election Bush or post-election Bush?
I don't know, whichever one was anti-abortion.
Well I as well do not particuarly like either candidate... Sooo here's two points for each
Bush: Like his determination to get what he feels needs to be accomplished done, despite what other countries might think about it (Iraq), determination is a good thing, just hope he uses it better next time round and doesn't hurt our longwithstanding relationships with the world... (although America is the most important thing to Americans and no other country should have a right to interfere with our safety) Also like his anti-abortion stance except in cases of danger to the woman, rape, or other such extraneous circumstances
Kerry: Despite the controversy over his Vietnam service, service is still service in my mind, and that's something that George Bush can't claim he has done, even though I disagree with it being a central issue of his campaign I still respect it. I also like the fact that he is willing to be more open with the UN, because they are a great organization when they are used correctly. Although I hope he doesn't ask them for everything to be approved that we do if elected because that would be a DISASTER!!!...
Frisbeeteria
07-09-2004, 00:05
PS, this thread is a nice change of pace
Glad you agree.
Ralph Nader is a fine guy who made a name for himself by trying to do what was right for the American consumer. He's a hell of a crusader, but I'm still not going to vote for him.
Purly Euclid
07-09-2004, 00:10
Hehe Kerry hasn't voted in favour of a gas tax in over 10 years..lol
Really? I wish he did bring that up. In fact, in addition to slashing income tax, I want to tax every consumer good just a little bit, except for food, clothing, and medicine. But let's not change the subject :).
Keruvalia
07-09-2004, 00:13
Kerry: Has an intelligent charm that I like.
Bush: Seems like he'd be a good guy to have a beer with.
Nader: Well, I'm sorry, I can't say a damn thing good about Nader.
Enough of this ... back to bashing.
Kerry has done an outstanding job of reminding us of his Swift Boat years.
Incongruency
07-09-2004, 00:21
Bush: Seems like he'd be a good guy to have a beer with.
Don't you mean "snort a line with?"
Keruvalia
07-09-2004, 00:27
Don't you mean "snort a line with?"
Nah ... it would be more fun to smash the empties over his head if it were beer.
BastardSword
07-09-2004, 01:17
Uhh... let me think... what has Kerry done well...
I can't think of anything right now. There's probably something I know though.
He won three purple hearts, that's nice! And a silver star, I think, or something like that.
If you have nothing ice to say you aren't suppposed to say anything at all. And guys no "Buts", if you say "but" you aren't saying a nice thing because you usually say something bad. Good thread :)
Bush: He attacked Afganistan when they attacked us; I liked that.
He tried to add money to schools with No Child Left Behind though it was badly made by senators.
He stopped using cocaine and drinking a I think. Good for his health...
Nader: He used to do great things and be a nice guy before 2000 election I think.
And I support Kerry so I've already said how great he was before.
Bush: His daughters are doable. He's made the country more politically active. He's reminded the world that the US is not to be trifled with. While I don't think he's improved the situation of the middle east, he has enabled, if great care, deliberation, and yes, sensitivity (meaning and attention to detail, nuance and appreciation for a careful balancing of forces,) are used, an atmosphere where positive change is possible.
God, I feel dirty.
Frisbeeteria
07-09-2004, 05:48
God, I feel dirty.Finally, Gymoor figures out why I started this thread. Go shower, G.
Bush: I thought his appearance here at NS as "The Smoking Man" really earned him some major props. He showed a depth of character I never expected, and obviously spent lots of time learing and understanding the various foibles of our forum posters.
It's equally obvious that the time he spent listening to the valuable opinions of MKULTRA and Friends of Bill (among so many others) helped him arrive at his current domestic and foreign policy agendas.
Unfree People
07-09-2004, 06:23
OK, I will try this.
9/11 was a horrible time. It just was. No one was blaming Bush for anything and we all enthusiastically rallied behind our leadership. Yes, even me. ;) Bush has faced some seriously difficult issues and I respect that he can keep his sanity through it. And it's not his fault his mother never taught him how to eat a pretzel.
LiberalisticSociety
07-09-2004, 06:31
OK, I will try this.
9/11 was a horrible time. It just was. No one was blaming Bush for anything and we all enthusiastically rallied behind our leadership. Yes, even me. ;) Bush has faced some seriously difficult issues and I respect that he can keep his sanity through it. And it's not his fault his mother never taught him how to eat a pretzel.
Psst...your comment was number 43....
Yeah this was stupid. :rolleyes:
down with bush, up with kerry.
Unfree People
07-09-2004, 06:43
Psst...your comment was number 43....Hmm, I don't get it..
LiberalisticSociety
07-09-2004, 06:45
Hmm, I don't get it..
Who is the 43rd president?