NationStates Jolt Archive

How would each of you describe your political beliefs and why?

I am a left leaning moderate.

I think Abortions should be allowed only to people under 25, in cases of rape, incest, or when the baby poses a threat to the mothers life.

I oppose gun control in general, guns should be treated like a fishing license, but a one time deal.

I support the left's programs, and the tax cuts for the middle class.

Left libertarian. But I won't get into why, i'm tired :p

Technocrat

i dont really believe in the left/right thing, as it oversimplifies much more complex issues that are much bigger than liberal or conservative

Well I kinda tried to make it easier, through the whole Social/Economic thing, so it'll be easier to specify.

Left libertarian. But I won't get into why, i'm tired :p

Fair dos, hey you were born in the same year as me :P

I'm Left Libertarian in most issues, but I voted myself as Left Authoritarian just 'cause of how much I think criminals should be put into prison and not 'holiday home' prisons.

[EDIT: It's a big problem in Britain]

Technocrat
What's this?

Where does "Perverted Imperialist Liberal" stand?

Right - Authoritarian

What's this?
Belief that society as a whole is unfit to govern itself (by which I mean democracy). And that a few trained people should control everything. There are variations of it, from the socialist to the not so socialist. But basically it is that the intelligent should rule supreme, where society comes before the individual.

Where does Pragmatist fit in?

What's this?

2 things as far as i can tell

first - the economic side - an organization started in the 30s by scientists to eliminate the general labour force and use machines (which we have the technology for) to provide and distribute food and other essentials to the general public for free.

for more on that go here (http://www.technocracyinc.org/MainIndex.htm)

second - my understanding is that it also can mean that the intelligencia, or trained specialists run a country. However I believe the optimal tecnocracy would require a revolution in the education system to elevate everyone to a level of knowledge that would include the general public into the intellectual elite.

Belief that society as a whole is unfit to govern itself (by which I mean democracy). And that a few trained people should control everything. There are variations of it, from the socialist to the not so socialist. But basically it is that the intelligent should rule supreme, where society comes before the individual.

Right on! Truer than True itself! A beautiful post!

I'm Left Libertarian in most issues, but I voted myself as Left Authoritarian just 'cause of how much I think criminals should be put into prison and not 'holiday home' prisons.

[EDIT: It's a big problem in Britain]

I believe the same thing, but I still voted Left Libertarian since I believe that the government should get out of the vast majority of personal issues and focus on providing quality education and real health care at a far more efficient rate than it is doing right now...well, at least in the U.S., where overhead is insanely high. I do believe that the government should turn prisons into actual productive institutions, not just to punish criminals but to prevent repeat offenses in whatever way is deemed best (that can be undone, of course...I oppose all permanent punishments, such as death and castration, though if castration can be undone, then it's OK by me.) I oppose allowing criminals to watch TV or have contact with the outside world except in doses, and then in a very specific manner. They should be put to work 365 days a year (though some days less than others) until their release, which for lifers must be never.

Left-leaning Libertarian. I'm undecided on the economic scope but I'm left-leaning.

Ultra Left- Liberalism is the way of the future, Conservatives are scared of change.

well, according to my nationstates political compass (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6644898) thread, of the people that participate in the forums (and are willing to voluntarily post their political compass scores) there really is a rather strong left libertarian streak.

Belief that society as a whole is unfit to govern itself (by which I mean democracy). And that a few trained people should control everything. There are variations of it, from the socialist to the not so socialist. But basically it is that the intelligent should rule supreme, where society comes before the individual.
Right on! Truer than True itself! A beautiful post!

Never thought I'd see Letila come out in favor of an authoritarian aristocracy....
Agreeing that a few should decide for all? Very anarchistic, that.

None of the above..I'm a centrist

I'm a Conservative with Liberal views on certain social issues.

I agree with La Terra

Technocrat
What's this?

Technocracy defined (http://www.yourencyclopedia.net/Technocracy).

Judge the technocrats (http://www.technocracyinc.org/MainIndex.htm) for yourself.

Personally they seem to be bunch of left confiscationalists to me.

Never thought I'd see Letila come out in favor of an authoritarian aristocracy....
Agreeing that a few should decide for all? Very anarchistic, that.

i think letila meant that the post was an acurate explanation of it, and that the explanation makes plain just how wrong it is (coming from letila's political viewpoint).

Technocracy advocates an economic system in which production is run at full capacity at all times, and purchasing power equal to the productive capacity is evenly distributed to all.
source (http://www.yourencyclopedia.net/Technocracy_(movement))

In other words you own and operate a factory. Others are free to come and pilfer your production.

i think letila meant that the post was an acurate explanation of it, and that the explanation makes plain just how wrong it is (coming from letila's political viewpoint).

I'm not sure of that. I'd be utterly shocked if you came out with it, but I still think L's a bit confused. But that's alright. :D
If he isn't, and he was serious, an explanation would be interesting. If he was being ironic, an indication would have been helpful, as he seemed straight forward...

Right Libertarian

source (http://www.yourencyclopedia.net/Technocracy_(movement))

In other words you own and operate a factory. Others are free to come and pilfer your production.

ya, thats kindof true

thats why i personally would advocate a line between what is supplied to the "lesiure class" and what is still open for the free market.

Food, property, house, communication, water... stuff like that should be free, IMHO

Communist. Although, Marxist Communist... not any of the "Red" types...

ya, thats kindof true

thats why i personally would advocate a line between what is supplied to the "lesiure class" and what is still open for the free market.

Food, property, house, communication, water... stuff like that should be free, IMHO

That's still essentially a kleptocracy, even if limited. You are stealing production of those goods...
And Kleptocracy is a form of slavery (using coercion, force, or threat of force, to make others produce for your benifit).

What happens if and when those who produce food, for example ask for an increased share that has been determined "unfair" by the technocrats?

Never thought I'd see Letila come out in favor of an authoritarian aristocracy....
Agreeing that a few should decide for all? Very anarchistic, that.
Just for clarification.

I'm no technocrat, just explaining what it is, (very quickly I might add.)

Or did you get that :confused:

I prefer not to use political affiliation as a crutch. I came up with my own ideas on my own accord. I’m sick and tired of people saying that the conservative or liberal ideal is better. They all suck, they are very narrow minded, they spend a lot more time attacking the opposite ideal more than they should. They think that they are absolutely correct most of the time and pretty much just ignore what the other side has to say unless they think that they can use it against their opponents. I have no qualms with the quiet ones though. It’s the loudmouthed ones that really piss me off.
:mad:

I am more of a right libertarian from the list of options.
I prefer lower taxes, less government intervention (if any it must be at the state level unless in national security issues)in any individual rights even ones I disagree with. I believe in strict penalties for criminals that use violence or theft by any means (petty theft to corporate theft). Any person on person criminals would be harshly reprimanded. Death penalty automatic for all rapists, molestors and murderers that meet aggrevating circumstance. There are few laws to protect ourselves from ourselves, unless that specific community or state wants them, just like how we have helmet,gun, seatbelt and marijuana laws it is left to the states. So I live in my ideal country and am very content with where we are heading but would be even more satisfied if we were to do away with the 2 party system. My largest reason why I love America even though we have to have a democrat or republican in office is the fact that we allow each state to have its own power to defunct or agree with the current federal authority on non national security issues.

Belief that society as a whole is unfit to govern itself (by which I mean democracy). And that a few trained people should control everything. There are variations of it, from the socialist to the not so socialist. But basically it is that the intelligent should rule supreme, where society comes before the individual.


Right on! Truer than True itself! A beautiful post!


Never thought I'd see Letila come out in favor of an authoritarian aristocracy....
Agreeing that a few should decide for all? Very anarchistic, that.

Just for clarification.

I'm no technocrat, just explaining what it is, (very quickly I might add.)

Or did you get that :confused:

Color me :confused: too. Letilia seemed to be saying that it was a good idea, I'm not sure how you saw that comment pointed at you? Oh well. :)