What is your favorite National Anthem
Kyleralia
06-09-2004, 14:46
What National Anthem Is your Favorite?
Theyre always pooey. They should put me in charge of choosing the Australian one...it would change every 2 days as I get bored with it, and they would mostly consist of aiming to scare religious fundamentalist countries. Or something.
Uzb3kistan
06-09-2004, 15:14
Does if have to be a current one? If not then my favorite is the 1977 USSR national anthem.
Demented Hamsters
06-09-2004, 15:19
Current one would be "La Marseillaise" - the French one, but my all-time favourite has to be "Deutschland Uber Alles". That one is just cool. It hooks you in immediately. I always thought NZ could use instead of our crappy one: "Aoteroa Uber Alles" has a certain ring to it.
Speaking of NZ, the Maori version of "God defend NZ" is quite good. Brilliant compared to the english version which is just embarassing.
Demented Hamsters
06-09-2004, 15:20
just for interest:
http://www.countryreports.org/anthems/
180 anthems from around the world.
non-stalin version of the soviet anthem
Kybernetia
06-09-2004, 15:24
Though I´m not particulary pro-French I like their anthem very much - like President Reagan did as well.
I also like the US national anthem (The star-spangled banner) and the German national anthem (Unity and right and liberty).
EuropeanUnion
06-09-2004, 15:26
The marseillaise of france is the best.. its got rythem, its nice to listen to, its just the most upbeat and the least corny of any other ones which have very dull boring music and rythem and stupid lyrics of any other nations from "Deutschland Uber Alles" which is a bit silly IMO to "go-o-o-d sa-a-a-v-v-e our gra-a-a ciouse Qu-e-e-e-n!" to the american national anthem.. i don't feel any sort of patriotism listening to my national anthems.. something about the marseillaise that just lighten things up a bit! french or not! lol
baba babum bum bum buhm buhm baaaadadam da da da da taaa ta da da!
Current one would be "La Marseillaise" - the French one, but my all-time favourite has to be "Deutschland Uber Alles". That one is just cool. It hooks you in immediately. I always thought NZ could use instead of our crappy one: "Aoteroa Uber Alles" has a certain ring to it.
Speaking of NZ, the Maori version of "God defend NZ" is quite good. Brilliant compared to the english version which is just embarassing."Deutschland Uber Alles" is not a national anthem any more. And in Germany it is now illegal to play the first two stanzas. Although neither the music nor the text had originally any nationalist intentions, their abuse by the Nazi regime has led to a law forbidding the text. BTW did you know that the music used to be the Austrian national anthem before all that?
The French national anthem is also my favorite, although I like the British and US-American as well.
Corneliu
06-09-2004, 15:27
I love the United States of America!
I'm American, what did you expect? Frankly The Star Spangled Banner brings tears to my eye. I even know who, what, when, where, why and how it was written too. :)
Gigatron
06-09-2004, 15:27
What National Anthem Is your Favorite?
Well naturally I chose the anthem of my own country. But there is really no "which is your favourite anthem". All of them are very nationalist and mostly way over the top glorifying the respective nations. It would amount to quasi-treason if someone from a nation thought another anthem to be better than their own - unless it really sucks, like the anthem of Italy or so which sound like folkmusic :p
Refused Party Program
06-09-2004, 15:28
Anthem For Doomed Youth.
Von Witzleben
06-09-2004, 15:29
"Deutschland Uber Alles" is not a national anthem any more. And in Germany it is now illegal to play the first two stanzas. Although neither the music nor the text had originally any nationalist intentions, their abuse by the Nazi regime has led to a law forbidding the text. BTW did you know that the music used to be the Austrian national anthem before all that?
No. I didn't. But did you know that the hymn of the old German Empire, 1871-1918 used the music from God save the Queen?
Well naturally I chose the anthem of my own country. But there is really no "which is your favourite anthem". All of them are very nationalist and mostly way over the top glorifying the respective nations. It would amount to quasi-treason if someone from a nation thought another anthem to be better than their own - unless it really sucks, like the anthem of Italy or so which sound like folkmusic :p
i didn't choose the wilhelmus (dutch national anthem)...
beceause it sucks
wilhelmus van nasaaaaaauuuuue
jeah right...
I love the United States of America!
I'm American, what did you expect? Frankly The Star Sprangled Banner brings tears to my eye. I even know who, what, when, where, why and how it was written too. :)And what is your answer to the question of the last line? ;-)
EuropeanUnion
06-09-2004, 15:31
"Deutschland Uber Alles" is not a national anthem any more. And in Germany it is now illegal to play the first two stanzas. Although neither the music nor the text had originally any nationalist intentions, their abuse by the Nazi regime has led to a law forbidding the text. BTW did you know that the music used to be the Austrian national anthem before all that?
The French national anthem is also my favorite, although I like the British and US-American as well.
so they finally banned it? yes the nazis abused it.. i rember watching a football game and the german team were singing that a few years ago.. yes it was abused the the nazis i was expecting them the get rid of it sometime
Personally I like the ENGLISH national anthem, its nice. God Save the Queen is depressing. Well, maybe not the banned verses!
Gigatron
06-09-2004, 15:32
The marseillaise of france is the best.. its got rythem, its nice to listen to, its just the most upbeat and the least corny of any other ones which have very dull boring music and rythem and stupid lyrics of any other nations from "Deutschland Uber Alles" which is a bit silly IMO to "go-o-o-d sa-a-a-v-v-e our gra-a-a ciouse Qu-e-e-e-n!" to the american national anthem.. i don't feel any sort of patriotism listening to my national anthems.. something about the marseillaise that just lighten things up a bit! french or not! lol
baba babum bum bum buhm buhm baaaadadam da da da da taaa ta da da!
And you fell for the common misconception that "Deutschland Uber Alles" means the oppression of all other nations. This is completely wrong. During the time when the original version of our anthem was written, the "Deutschlandlied", Germany was a mix of many small feudal semi-states. The importance of the unity of a combined Germany was what the author of this song wanted to express, not any superiority of Germany, although I sometimes think that Germany is one of the better nations in the world, not because of nationalism, but simply seeing what cultural achievements the German people have made during the last 1000 years.
And you fell for the common misconception that "Deutschland Uber Alles" means the oppression of all other nations. This is completely wrong. During the time when the original version of our anthem was written, the "Deutschlandlied", Germany was a mix of many small feudal semi-states. The importance of the unity of a combined Germany was what the author of this song wanted to express, not any superiority of Germany, although I sometimes think that Germany is one of the better nations in the world, not because of nationalism, but simply seeing what cultural achievements the German people have made during the last 1000 years.
cultural achievements were everywhere in the world...
i think even the netherlands had more cultural achievments than germany
Scapegoatia II
06-09-2004, 15:35
Current one would be "La Marseillaise" - the French one, but my all-time favourite has to be "Deutschland Uber Alles". That one is just cool. It hooks you in immediately. I always thought NZ could use instead of our crappy one: "Aoteroa Uber Alles" has a certain ring to it.
Speaking of NZ, the Maori version of "God defend NZ" is quite good. Brilliant compared to the english version which is just embarassing.
Hmm, it's been a long time since them German anthem was called "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles", which means "Germany above everything / above all other nations". After WW2, they changed it to "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" -> "Unity and Justice and Freedom"
Greetz
by Scapegoatia II
For all national anthems, go here:
http://www.national-anthems.net/
SexDrugsRocknRoll
06-09-2004, 15:36
God Save The Queen.......sex pistols style
Corneliu
06-09-2004, 15:38
And what is your answer to the question of the last line? ;-)
And the land of the free and the home of the brave? That line?
This is what I say to it. Thank God I do live in the land of the Free and the home of the brave!
Gigatron
06-09-2004, 15:39
so they finally banned it? yes the nazis abused it.. i rember watching a football game and the german team were singing that a few years ago.. yes it was abused the the nazis i was expecting them the get rid of it sometime
The Deutschlandlied is not banned. It has 3 parts of which the 3rd part is the official anthem of the Federal Republic of Germany. The whole song was banned by the occupiers after the first world war. It even was the official anthem of Germany from 1952 but only the 3rdpart was officially sung at events because the whole anthem is too long :p
In 1991 the 3rd part was officially declared the national anthem of Germany. The remaining parts never were made illegal and I have a MP3 copy of the complete anthem sung by a soldier choir.
so they finally banned it? yes the nazis abused it.. i rember watching a football game and the german team were singing that a few years ago.. yes it was abused the the nazis i was expecting them the get rid of it sometimeNo. The third stanza is still the German national anthem. The first two were originally meant as a call for unification of the German petty states during the revolutionary times of the mid 19th century. "Deutschland über alles" (Germany above all) was not (yet) to be understood in a way as to put Germany above other nations in an ideological manner, it was merely expressing the idea of building a nation in the first place. The music was taken from a birthday-hymn to the Austrian Kaiser.
Kybernetia
06-09-2004, 15:41
"Deutschland Uber Alles" is not a national anthem any more. And in Germany it is now illegal to play the first two stanzas. Although neither the music nor the text had originally any nationalist intentions, their abuse by the Nazi regime has led to a law forbidding the text. BTW did you know that the music used to be the Austrian national anthem before all that?
The german national anthem was written by Hoffman von Fallersleben during the 19 th century at a time there was no united german state. That explains certain aspects of it: when it says germany over everything in the world it is refering to the fact that it is standing above the regional dukes and dynasties of the medium and small states who tried to prevent the unification of the country up until 1871 when the Prussian-French war forced them to join Prussia which led finally to the unification.
It became by the way national anthem in 1922. Before that there was an imperial anthem praising the emperor.
During the time of 1933-45 only the first verse was used and of course abused by the Nazis.
In 1952 the Federal Republic of Germany declared the "Deutschlandlied" of Hofmann von Fallersleben again to the national anthem of Germany. However it was decided to use only the third verse (Unity and right and liberty) on official occasions.
In 1990 the anthem was approved again after the five east German states joined the Federal Republic on October 3 according to article 23 (old) of the constituition of the Federal Republic of Germany.
This led to the archievement of the aims of the national and liberal movement of the 19 th century which did the revolution of 1848: an united, democratic and free Germany. Achieved finally 142 later in 1990 after the revolution of 1989 in East Germany and East Europe.
Gigatron
06-09-2004, 15:42
Hmm, it's been a long time since them German anthem was called "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles", which means "Germany above everything / above all other nations". After WW2, they changed it to "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" -> "Unity and Justice and Freedom"
Greetz
by Scapegoatia II
You are wrong. Deutschland über allesis not "above everything or above all other nations". It means the dream of a united Germany which was not the case when the song was written. At least get your historical facts straight before you produce such nonsense.
And the land of the free and the home of the brave? That line?
This is what I say to it. Thank God I do live in the land of the Free and the home of the brave!:D The question is if it is still the land of the free and the home of the brave that the flag is flying over.
Kybernetia
06-09-2004, 15:46
Hmm, it's been a long time since them German anthem was called "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles", which means "Germany above everything / above all other nations". After WW2, they changed it to "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" -> "Unity and Justice and Freedom"
Greetz
by Scapegoatia II
You are both wrong: the anthem is called Deutschlandlied (Germanys song). It has three verses. It became national anthem in 1922. During the time of 1933-45 only the first one was used and abused by the Nazis.
In 1952 the Federal Republic of Germany declared it again to be the national anthem of Germany. However it was decided to use only the third (Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit - Unity and right and liberty) verse on public occasions.
By the way: If we speak about nationalism I would like to draw the attention to the French one. It is full of blodshed and blood of the enemies that is watering the fields.
And in the American anthems the bombs are bursting in the air.
However the French one is even more bloody. None the less I like it very much: it has the best melody in my view.
And the text - well it sounds good regardless of it.
Corneliu
06-09-2004, 15:47
:D The question is if it is still the land of the free and the home of the brave that the flag is flying over.
Yes it is!
Scapegoatia II
06-09-2004, 15:48
You are wrong. Deutschland über allesis not "above everything or above all other nations". It means the dream of a united Germany which was not the case when the song was written. At least get your historical facts straight before you produce such nonsense.
»Deutschland, Deutschland über alles: Das kann, wie die Forschung längst bewiesen hat, nichts anderes heißen als: Deutschland ist mehr, ist größer, ist mächtiger als alles, sofern es seine politische Einheit gewinnt.« Walter Jens, in: Die Zeit, Nr. 39, 1986
Treffen wir uns in der Mitte?
Scapegoatia II
Dalradia
06-09-2004, 15:49
Welsh
Von Witzleben
06-09-2004, 15:49
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zum Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt -
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt!
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang
Sollen in der Welt behalten
Ihren alten schönen Klang,
Uns zu edler Tat begeistern
Unser ganzes Leben lang -
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Für das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach laßt uns alle streben
Brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Sind des Glückes Unterpfand -
Blüh im Glanze dieses Glückes,
Blühe, deutsches Vaterland!
Just to illustrate what is beeing discussed about the Deutschlandlied.
Kybernetia
06-09-2004, 15:51
Does if have to be a current one? If not then my favorite is the 1977 USSR national anthem.
Russia actually again uses the melody of the Stalin anthem. But they have a different text of course. By the way composed by the same composer who composed the anthem under Stalin. He was 87 years old when President Putin gave him the order to write a new text for it.
This new old anthem replaced the Patriotic song which was Russias anthem in the Yeltsin era.
Gigatron
06-09-2004, 15:52
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zum Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt -
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt!
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang
Sollen in der Welt behalten
Ihren alten schönen Klang,
Uns zu edler Tat begeistern
Unser ganzes Leben lang -
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Für das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach laßt uns alle streben
Brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Sind des Glückes Unterpfand -
Blüh im Glanze dieses Glückes,
Blühe, deutsches Vaterland!
Just to illustrate what is beeing discussed about the Deutschlandlied.
Thanks :)
Kybernetia
06-09-2004, 15:54
»Deutschland, Deutschland über alles: Das kann, wie die Forschung längst bewiesen hat, nichts anderes heißen als: Deutschland ist mehr, ist größer, ist mächtiger als alles, sofern es seine politische Einheit gewinnt.« Walter Jens, in: Die Zeit, Nr. 39, 1986
Treffen wir uns in der Mitte?
Scapegoatia II
Das ist die Interpretation eines linken Intellektuellen. Es ist sicherlich eine mißverständliche Formulierung die so interpretiert werden kann auch wenn dies wohl kaum die Absicht des Autors war.
Aber wozu soll man sich denn darüber streiten. Die dritte Stophe ist der Text zur offiziellen Nationalhyme. Und ich kann wirklich nicht erkennen was man an "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" aussetzen kann.
Von Witzleben
06-09-2004, 15:57
»Deutschland, Deutschland über alles: Das kann, wie die Forschung längst bewiesen hat, nichts anderes heißen als: Deutschland ist mehr, ist größer, ist mächtiger als alles, sofern es seine politische Einheit gewinnt.« Walter Jens, in: Die Zeit, Nr. 39, 1986
Treffen wir uns in der Mitte?
Scapegoatia II
Walter Jens. Ehemaliges NSDAP mitlgied das danach ins linke lager wechselte.
Scapegoatia II
06-09-2004, 15:58
Das ist die Interpretation eines linken Intellektuellen. Es ist sicherlich eine mißverständliche Formulierung die so interpretiert werden kann auch wenn dies wohl kaum die Absicht des Autors war.
Aber wozu soll man sich denn darüber streiten. Die dritte Stophe ist der Text zur offiziellen Nationalhyme. Und ich kann wirklich nicht erkennen was man an "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" aussetzen kann.
Ich auch nicht. Lassen wir diese blöde Diskussion doch einfach gut sein. Man muß ja nicht mehr Haare spalten als notwendig.
Greetz
Scapegoatia II
EuropeanUnion
06-09-2004, 16:01
bah too much discussion over a silly national anthem! lol
Kybernetia
06-09-2004, 16:03
Walter Jens. Ehemaliges NSDAP mitglied das danach ins linke lager wechselte.
Tja, das gilt für viele. Immerhin gab es rund 8 Millionen. Ich möchte ja niemanden die Chance absprechen sich zu ändern: das gilt dann aber unabhängig von der Partei. Es ist schon etwas merkwürdig wie in der politischen Diskussion in der Vergangenheit CDU-Politikern wie Carstens ihre NSDAP-Mitgliedschaft vorgeworfen wurde, während das bei Politikern wie Schell (FDP) oder auch linken Intellektuellen nie ein Thema war.
bah too much discussion over a silly national anthem! lolWell, it was clear that this discussion had to come up, was it not?
Scapegoatia II
06-09-2004, 16:04
Walter Jens. Ehemaliges NSDAP mitlgied das danach ins linke lager wechselte.
Laut seiner eigenen Aussage wurde er automatisch in die NSDAP übernommen, weil seine Eltern ihn zur HJ geschickt haben. OK, es ist seine eigene Aussage, aber in dubio pro reo. Der Mann ist anerkannter Moralist, linker Intellektueller und hat während des Golfkriegs desertierte US-Soldaten in seinem Haus versteckt. Klingt nicht nach einem beinharten Nazi, oder?
Greetz
Scapegoatia II
Kybernetia
06-09-2004, 16:04
bah too much discussion over a silly national anthem! lol
agreed: I personally actually like the French anthem as the best one as well. Followed by the American anthem.
Von Witzleben
06-09-2004, 16:05
Tja, das gilt für viele. Immerhin gab es rund 8 Millionen. Ich möchte ja niemanden die Chance absprechen sich zu ändern:
Ich wills ihm auch nicht vorwerfen. Ich meine nur das seine meinung nicht gerade neutral zu nennen ist.
Es ist schon etwas merkwürdig wie in der politischen Diskussion in der Vergangenheit CDU-Politikern wie Carstens ihre NSDAP-Mitgliedschaft vorgeworfen wurde, während das bei Politikern wie Schell (FDP) oder auch linken Intellektuellen nie ein Thema war.
Vielleicht schimpft er nicht genug auf Deutschland.
Gigatron
06-09-2004, 16:06
Well, it was clear that this discussion had to come up, was it not?
Sure it had to come up. If people spew nonsense about our national anthem by lack of historical knowledge :) I am not someone who agrees if lies are presented as facts.
Von Witzleben
06-09-2004, 16:09
Laut seiner eigenen Aussage wurde er automatisch in die NSDAP übernommen, weil seine Eltern ihn zur HJ geschickt haben. OK, es ist seine eigene Aussage, aber in dubio pro reo. Der Mann ist anerkannter Moralist, linker Intellektueller und hat während des Golfkriegs desertierte US-Soldaten in seinem Haus versteckt. Klingt nicht nach einem beinharten Nazi, oder?
Greetz
Scapegoatia II
Mein Opa war auch in der HJ. Aber ist nicht automatisch in die partei gekommen. Und seine linke gesinnung macht ihn meiner meinung nach nicht gerade neutral wenn er solche aussagen loslässt.
Gunowners
06-09-2004, 16:10
The old one of the German Democratic Republic (East) was really nice and played all the time when East Germany was kicking US asses in Seoul ´88.
Superpower07
06-09-2004, 16:10
1. French Anthem
2. Canadian Anthem
3. (coz its my nation's anthem) Invoke (Gundam SEED theme)
Scapegoatia II
06-09-2004, 16:12
Mein Opa war auch in der HJ. Aber ist nicht automatisch in die partei gekommen. Und seine linke gesinnung macht ihn meiner meinung nach nicht gerade neutral wenn er solche aussagen loslässt.
Is ja auch egal. Guckt Euch alle mal das Thema dieses Forums an und fragt Euch ob wir nicht ein bißchen vom Weg abgekommen sind.
Also meine Lieblingshymne ist das Star-Spangled Banner, aber nur in der Jimi-Hendrix-Version *gg*
Suicidal Librarians
06-09-2004, 16:13
I like the "Star Spangled Banner" the best of all the anthems that I have heard, but I'm American so I probably wouldn't have chosen a different one even if I thought it was better.
Kybernetia
06-09-2004, 16:14
The old one of the German Democratic Republic (East) was really nice and played all the time when East Germany was kicking US asses in Seoul ´88.
I didn´t like that one. But do you happen to know that the Communists regime their even banned to sing the text of their own anthem in 1977 because the regime changed its policies and claimed that there are two german nationalities: a capitlist one and a socialists german natinality. Therefore the next needed to be banned because it said at the end: Germany united fatherland.
By the way: one slogan of the opposition movement in the GDR in 1989 who overthrew the regime and paved the way for free elections in spring 1990 and for the reunification on October 3, 1990.
Demographika
06-09-2004, 16:21
I voted France's national anthem; as in the old one before it was attempted to be dumbed down. Stirs my soul, y'know; a song written and composed on a night of revolution.
Next it would have to be the Russian one, if by that you mean the Soviet National Anthem (I don't know the real name of it, but it's the one sung by the Russian Red Army Choir). I love the power that anthem has; the way it blasts out at you with those lyrics.
Then I would say Oh, Canada. It's quite good as a tune but it drags on.
The others are all aobut the same level. The Star Spangled Banner drags on and doens't inspire anything. God Save the Queen (my country's national anthem IRL) is sooo boring; we should have Rule Britannia as our anthem... it's much better for singing and playing. The German one (Deusche Deusche Uber Alles) is quite good, probably just better than the other two, but I don't like it's tone.
The Italian one's quite good, as is the Brazilian one.
Demented Hamsters
06-09-2004, 16:28
"Deutschland Uber Alles" is not a national anthem any more. And in Germany it is now illegal to play the first two stanzas.
Yes I did, thank you. That's why I want NZ to adopt it - cause it's not being used by anyone any more. Change the place names to "Von der Cape bis an die Bluff" and I can again feel pride at footy matches.
Yes I did, thank you. That's why I want NZ to adopt it - cause it's not being used by anyone any more. Change the place names to "Von der Cape bis an die Bluff" and I can again feel pride at footy matches.It seems like your nick is not picked without reason?
Stephistan
06-09-2004, 16:35
I love the United States of America!
I'm American, what did you expect? Frankly The Star Spangled Banner brings tears to my eye. I even know who, what, when, where, why and how it was written too. :)
I always thought the American national anthem did in fact represent America rather well.. it's like the American dream, Some of the notes are so high, Only a rare few can ever achieve it! :D
Corneliu
06-09-2004, 16:37
I always thought the American national anthem did in fact represent America rather well.. it's like the American dream, Some of the notes are so high, Only a rare few can ever achieve it! :D
And yet, there's nothing to defend Canada from an outside invader whereas there is in America! What does that say? LOL
Stephistan
06-09-2004, 16:41
And yet, there's nothing to defend Canada from an outside invader whereas there is in America! What does that say? LOL
I don't know what you're trying to imply.. but if we look at all of Canada's history the only people who have ever tried to invade us is America.. So, thanks, but no thanks.. :p
Demented Hamsters
06-09-2004, 16:42
Well, have you ever heard the dreadful dirge that is the NZ athem? It was written by schoolteacher for goodness sakes! And it doesn't make sense. It goes about "Guard Pacific's triple star". But there's 4 of them on the flag! (6 on the Ozzie one).
If uber alles is out of bounds, my next choice would be a song by Industrial technos "The Young Gods" (a Swiss band): "Strangel".
Only because it has a line in it "See the stars, 1,2,3,4; That's what you are fighting for!" which makes more sense than "Guard Pacific's triple star", considering the NZ flag. And it has a real cool heavy back beat too.
Corneliu
06-09-2004, 16:42
I don't know what you're trying to imply.. but if we look at all of Canada's history the only people who have ever tried to invade us is America.. So, thanks, but no thanks.. :p
LOL!! Only if we invaded again, we would win this time because well frankly, we are more powerful this time :p
Stephistan
06-09-2004, 16:56
LOL!! Only if we invaded again, we would win this time because well frankly, we are more powerful this time :p
You think the world doesn't like you now for invading Iraq..lol Lets see how America could even try to justify invading Canada (One if not the most peaceful nation on earth) WWIII.. and I seriously doubt you would have any allies (maybe Israel) but Germany was quite strong when the rest of the world brought them to their knees too.. history my dear, history.
Corneliu
06-09-2004, 17:03
You think the world doesn't like you now for invading Iraq..lol Lets see how America could even try to justify invading Canada (One if not the most peaceful nation on earth) WWIII.. and I seriously doubt you would have any allies (maybe Israel) but Germany was quite strong when the rest of the world brought them to their knees too.. history my dear, history.
I know my history! LOL!!
Stephistan
06-09-2004, 17:14
http://www.stephaniesworld.com/bush-speech.gif
Corneliu
06-09-2004, 17:17
Now I see why I don't Canadian Newspapers! LOL!! Though I do like the cartoon!