Was John Kerry AWOL, too?
Kerry is a coward
06-09-2004, 05:32
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=AWOL
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5).
Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.....
Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released? :confused:
The Black Forrest
06-09-2004, 05:39
Bill trolls
Frisbeeteria
06-09-2004, 05:40
Bill trolls
Nah, ya think?
New Foxxinnia
06-09-2004, 05:41
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Kerry is a coward
06-09-2004, 05:52
I think it is rather funny that the media and the democrats nitpicked Bush's record (what little of it you could find), but ignore all the discrepencies in Kerry's.
Roachsylvania
06-09-2004, 06:12
Jesus Christ, does anyone even care about real issues any more? I'm starting to think it would be better to live under a dictator, because we wouldn't have to deal with all the bs associated with elections.
I like a politicion that isnt afraid to let everyone know that hes full of crap.
La Terra di Liberta
06-09-2004, 06:19
John Kerry is a coward and George W. Bush is an idiot. It's actually pretty simple.
Upitatanium
06-09-2004, 06:35
The Bushies themselves said Kerry's service was honorable.
I could care less about either side's involvement or non-involvement in the pointless Vietnam War. The less people fighting in it the better.
Anyone like pie?
La Terra di Liberta
06-09-2004, 06:36
Me and actually, I was just comparing the person who posted this threads name to the name of another person on a forum. What kind of pie, btw?
Kerry is a coward
06-09-2004, 07:09
No one wants to comment on the post, just the poster? Kerry's records obviosly are full of holes, discrepencies, and lies. He touts a record that is a sham. :confused:
Peaonusahl
06-09-2004, 07:16
I question you and the credibility of your sources.
No one wants to comment on the post, just the poster? Kerry's records obviosly are full of holes, discrepencies, and lies. He touts a record that is a sham. :confused:
The only thing full of holes is the story of anyone who has attacked Kerry's service in Vietnam thus far. Continuing to argue about Kerry's service in Vietnam is about as rational as trying to argue that 2+2=5, unless, of course anyone were to find any actual evidence. So far we have the word of a group that has constantly discredited themselves with outright fabrication, included members on it's list that never gave the organization permission to do so, and has been revealed to have several close ties to the current government. Just get over it. From now on, anyone who believes this claptrap, without conclusive evidence, is, in my opinion, mentally ill.
Done.
As for those that whine that Kerry has no plans for his Presidentcy, that he has no causes he wants to champion, I can only assume that you've so convinced yourself before the fact that you have effectively made yourself blind to any new information. His detailed and, to my mind, well thought out, plans are readily available with the least bit of effort. To say otherwise is to also display symptoms of mental illness.
As I am a liberal, I have compassion for those who are "differently abled" mentally. I just wish they weren't running the asylum.
Keruvalia
06-09-2004, 07:35
Anyone like pie?
Pie is nice! I like Pecan and Key Lime, myself.
Pantylvania
06-09-2004, 07:44
As for those that whine that Kerry has no plans for his Presidentcy, that he has no causes he wants to champion, I can only assume that you've so convinced yourself before the fact that you have effectively made yourself blind to any new information. His detailed and, to my mind, well thought out, plans are readily available with the least bit of effort. To say otherwise is to also display symptoms of mental illness.
As I am a liberal, I have compassion for those who are "differently abled" mentally. I just wish they weren't running the asylum.or in a way that can convince people to change their minds, Kerry does have plans and he doesn't take both sides on the issues, despite what Bush would have us believe. I trust that those who have been fooled once by Bush's campaign message do indeed have the mental capacity to understand Kerry's campaign platform if/when they read it.
BackwoodsSquatches
06-09-2004, 07:49
The following people have endorsed John Kerry's service record in Veitnam:
President George Bush.
Senator John McCain.
The United States Armed Forces.
The following non-partisan organizations dedicated to truth in media have declared that there is no truth in the SBV for Truth's political assassination attemps:
www.spinsanity.org
www.factcheck.org
This means that you can stop being stupid.
Hooray!
On a side note, I'm drinking a frosty cold glass of Kaluha and Milk, over ice.
Sooooo gooood!
Kirtondom
06-09-2004, 07:51
The following people have endorsed John Kerry's service record in Veitnam:
President George Bush.
Senator John McCain.
The United States Armed Forces.
The following non-partisan organizations dedicated to truth in media have declared that there is no truth in the SBV for Truth's political assassination attemps:
www.spinsanity.org
www.factcheck.org
This means that you can stop being stupid.
Hooray!
On a side note, I'm drinking a frosty cold glass of Kaluha and Milk, over ice.
Sooooo gooood!
Try chocolate milk and brandy!
or in a way that can convince people to change their minds, Kerry does have plans and he doesn't take both sides on the issues, despite what Bush would have us believe. I trust that those who have been fooled once by Bush's campaign message do indeed have the mental capacity to understand Kerry's campaign platform if/when they read it.
They'd rather only read things that reinforce their pre-conceived ideas. New information is scary and confusing to the unfrozen caveman conservatives.
BackwoodsSquatches
06-09-2004, 08:08
Try chocolate milk and brandy!
That sounds good, too.
Khallad Barr
06-09-2004, 08:18
or in a way that can convince people to change their minds, Kerry does have plans and he doesn't take both sides on the issues, despite what Bush would have us believe. I trust that those who have been fooled once by Bush's campaign message do indeed have the mental capacity to understand Kerry's campaign platform if/when they read it.
Read it. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0451527100/qid=1094454851/sr=8-3/ref=pd_ka_3/103-9641564-7519867?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)
Ok. seriously, when he comes out with a cohert plan, I will listen, but so far he has gone to great pains to remain Chauncey Gardiner.
CanuckHeaven
06-09-2004, 08:55
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Pantylvania
06-09-2004, 09:26
Read it. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0451527100/qid=1094454851/sr=8-3/ref=pd_ka_3/103-9641564-7519867?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)
Ok. seriously, when he comes out with a cohert plan, I will listen, but so far he has gone to great pains to remain Chauncey Gardiner.The Communist Manifesto? No, I was talking about this (http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/). Now's your chance to read Kerry's campaign platform and prove Gymoor wrong
Cannot think of a name
06-09-2004, 10:06
The Communist Manifesto? No, I was talking about this (http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/). Now's your chance to read Kerry's campaign platform and prove Gymoor wrong
I'm gonna go with the theory that he came up with the Being There refrence on the way home and was just dying to get a chance to use it.
Or....I was just as much of a snot for trying to come up with a way to publicly recognize the reference......doesn't really say much about either of us.................ultimately less about me, but oh well................
The Resi Corporation
06-09-2004, 10:20
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Serious time, now. "Kerry is a coward", if you want anyone to take you in the least bit seriously, you should post under a different name. Y'know, one that doesn't scream partisanship like Michael Moore with a megaphone. Yeah, you might want to try that.
The Communist Manifesto? No, I was talking about this (http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/). Now's your chance to read Kerry's campaign platform and prove Gymoor wrong
So, will Khalad Barr (and any other unabashed Bush lovers): 1) Pretend he didn't see the link? 2) Admit he checked out the link, but still pretend there's nothing there? 3) Find another group to try to convince that Kerry doesn't have any ideas? 4) Bash Kerry's Vietnam activities? 5) Call Kerry a flip-flopper? 6) Actually debate Kerry's points with informed counter-points like a fully evolved homosapien should?
Khallad Barr
06-09-2004, 22:24
So, will Khalad Barr (and any other unabashed Bush lovers):
Seeing how I SAID NOTHING about Bush AT ALL, I will just say you are an unabashed apoligist for Kerry. I made a joke about Kerry being a communist, which he his, just not the Marx kind of commie, but the social state type.
Pretty much took all the creditablity out of your arguments.
But I DO think the Kerry stays right in the middle, trys to avoid nailing himself down a subject, and having read that list proves my point, he is going right for the Bread and Circus's vote.
For me, the only deciding factor is taxes, we make $75+ which makes us part of that top %2 they want to scalp, and national security and the wars abroad.
On these issues I tend to agree with Bush, not Kerry. Wish SOMEONE was more boarder strict, and less on curbing civil rights and spying on our citizens.
Voting record since 1988, when I could:
1988: in military, screwed up my registration. Proud to have served under Regan and was discharged while Bush Sr. was being sworn in.
1992: clinton
1996: clinton
2000: Bush, holding my nose. Just could not be proud of Gore as my president, period. Bush was lesser of two bad choices.
2004: Bush, not holding my nose, but making a squinty face from the rotteness of both tickets.