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Here's a thought...what if the Soviet Union returned, and revamped their economy and social problems so that they would not fall again like in the 1980's. Discuss the pros and cons of such a return, and whether or not you would like or dislike such a return.

Here's a thought...what if the Soviet Union returned, and revamped their economy and social problems so that they would not fall again like in the 1980's. Discuss the pros and cons of such a return, and whether or not you would like or dislike such a return.
Better then that mess of Russia we have now (and we don't have to worry about terrorism either, at least not against the two superpowers).

Would be neat.
USA, Europe, China, USSR.

4 superpowers :D

Good, someone to really give the US a run for their money. Really, them having that much power isn't healthy for the rest of us.

Thing is, I don't like Soviet Russia's gulags . . .

But I do love 'In Soviet Russia' jokes!!

In Soviet Russia, TV watches you! - or at least in 1984
In Soviet Russia, a tool is you!

Much as I hate to admit it, I kinda miss the Soviet Union. Back in the old days of the Cold War, Capitalists were forced to moderate their treatment of us workin' folk, at least somewhat.

Good, someone to really give the US a run for their money. Really, them having that much power isn't healthy for the rest of us.
Perhaps if Canada took the role of Eastern Europe you'd change your mind.

On the other hand, we do have those bastards to blame for Yakov Smirnov.

Good, someone to really give the US a run for their money. Really, them having that much power isn't healthy for the rest of us.
Confused me for a moment...

Better then that mess of Russia we have now (and we don't have to worry about terrorism either, at least not against the two superpowers).

But kidnapping businessmen as a profession is fuuun!

Ummm...lets see....no.
Somehow tourture, political corruption, and tyranny dont appeal to me.

Ummm...lets see....no.
Somehow tourture, political corruption, and tyranny dont appeal to me.
Are you talking about the US?

Ummm...lets see....no.
Somehow tourture, political corruption, and tyranny dont appeal to me.

I've had enough of you damned anti-Americans! ;)

I always liked Soviet may day parades. and there was this cartoon from the 1980s before reagon revamed the military which showed a crumbling soviet army and Reagan said "were boned" and it showed a already strong american army. ( i didnt live through the soviets so i dont know if it was better or not if it still existed) But i would rather have the USSR then Osama Bin laden and his groupies.

Well, that was random.

And anyway, the US isnt NEARLY as corrupt as the Soviet Union in its last days, and at least our tourture isnt officialy sanctioned...

EDIT:
To above, yes. For being Evil Commie Pinkos, those Soviets sure did know how to parade :)

Well, that was random.

And anyway, the US isnt NEARLY as corrupt as the Soviet Union in its last days, and at least our tourture isnt officialy sanctioned.

To the first point, true enough.
To the second, I'm not so certain.

And anyway, the US isnt NEARLY as corrupt as the Soviet Union in its last days
Sure it is. The CIA, FBI etc..are just more efficient in covering it up then the KGB was.
and at least our tourture isnt officialy sanctioned...
Because they say it isn't when they get caught?

lol but we still rock cause were the US and the rest of the world should learn threre place...

(ahha like me playing the arragont american? :mp5: )

Its the differnce between a King and an Reigning Tyrant. They might be the same, but at least the tyrant doesnt pretend God gave him the right to rule :P

Its the differnce between a King and an Reigning Tyrant. They might be the same, but at least the tyrant doesnt pretend God gave him the right to rule :P
Didn't Bush get his marching orders from God? I'm sure he said something to that extence once or twice.

Metaphore, my friend.

Yeah, Bush mentioned God once or twice...however I beleive that Freedom of Speech generaly applies to the President.

Metaphore, my friend.

Yeah, Bush mentioned God once or twice...however I beleive that Freedom of Speech generaly applies to the President.

Sure, he's free to say whatever he wants (other than libel or defamation) without legal consequences. That doesn't mean that people can't give him hell for it.

Unless its libel or deframation.
Shouldnt we get back on topic?

Yes, purely and solely because a world with only one superpower is a global dictatorship.

*flame on*

:p

It all depends on how they act. If they hold unrigged elections and don't beat their people to death, then sure, it might be interesting to see a socialist power that plays nice.

Absolutely not! I would personally go to Russia to end any such revolution!

In America you can always find a party.

In Soviet Russia, the Party can always find you!

In America you can always find a party.

In Soviet Russia, the Party can always find you!
I cracked an 'In Soviet Russia' joke on the last page

On the other hand, we do have those bastards to blame for Yakov Smirnov.

Here's a thought...what if the Soviet Union returned, and revamped their economy and social problems so that they would not fall again like in the 1980's. Discuss the pros and cons of such a return, and whether or not you would like or dislike such a return.

Thats about as stupid as saying "What if Hitler came back and decided he really really liked Jewish people?"

The problems with their system were a natual result OF their system. They cannot exist apart.

The Soviet Union hated us, The French hate us, The Cuban Dictadorship
hates us, The Arabs hate us, our European Allys hate us because of Bush, but they love The American Dollar, you take the American Dollar away from
them and see them cry Uncle Sam.

We all ways welcome all nations to post and or telegram us about
any subject anytime even if we disagree.

(certain words capitalized just to make them stand out)

There are relatively free elections in Russia now and the Communists take their chances like any other party. Let's leave it to the people to decide. So far, most of them say no.

If they cut back on the dictatorship a bit, no a great deal, actually, and actually gave workers control of the means of production, then I would support it, otherwise no, it wasn't even socialist.

There are relatively free elections in Russia now

for certain values of 'free' at least.

In Soviet Russia car drives you!
In Soviet Russia road forks you!
In Soviet Russia whore pays you!
In Soviet Russia TV watches you!
In Soviet Russia turkey gobbles you!
In Soviet Russia job works you!
In Soviet Russia bomb wears terrorist!
In Soviet Russia house owns you!
In Soviet Russia pumpkin guts you!
In Soviet Russia govornment votes you!
In Soviet Russia drive screws you!
In Soviet Russia report writes you!
And so on.

I miss the clarity of those days... I say, bring the bastards back!

You mean the constant mind-numbing fear of an impending nuclear holocaust?

If the Soviet Union returned it would be another country to further stain Communism's name. It would again quickly collapse into a totalitarian mess, crumble and fall apart leading to more turmoil.

If the Soviet Union returned it would be another country to further stain Communism's name. It would again quickly collapse into a totalitarian mess, crumble and fall apart leading to more turmoil.
Erm...it wouldn't "technically" be another country...it's the same country, just redone

If the Soviet Union returned it would be another country to further stain Communism's name. It would again quickly collapse into a totalitarian mess, crumble and fall apart leading to more turmoil.
And we'd really hate to ruin the name of an oft-debunked hair-brained scheme wouldn't we?