NationStates Jolt Archive


How do they justify this?

Roachsylvania
05-09-2004, 21:08
Liquor stores in Minnesota are closed on Sundays. What I'm wondering, is there any reason anyone can give for doing this that isn't based on religion?
Spoffin
05-09-2004, 21:20
It could be a secular weekly holiday.
Roachsylvania
05-09-2004, 21:27
It could be a secular weekly holiday.
So why just liquor stores?
Chess Squares
05-09-2004, 21:29
Liquor stores in Minnesota are closed on Sundays. What I'm wondering, is there any reason anyone can give for doing this that isn't based on religion?
around here liquor stores in certain counties are closed on sunday, its all religious blue laws (which basically runs alabama) and its the friggin devil to get the county to vote in favor of letting stores sell liquor on sunday, even when the county is losing tons of money to neighboring wet counties
Spoffin
05-09-2004, 21:29
So why just liquor stores?
Could be an secular, alcohol related holiday.

Anyway, you don't need to worry about it. Churches pass out free wine on sundays anyway.
Encyclopedians
05-09-2004, 21:30
I thought that was national. To keep drinking down on sundays before people go back to work.

How do you justify this: Kids get satudays and sundays off. Why not wednesdays? Some people worship on wednesdays. It's religous discrimination!
Letila
05-09-2004, 21:31
A secular holiday every week? No way!
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:39
It's the blue laws. They were worse when the Puritans were here. In Massachussetts, they had a long list of illegal activities for Sunday, such as girls being covered, no commerce, no heavy labor, no more than 2,000 paces a day per person, and my favorite, no crossing a river unless you were a traveling minister. They're repealed a lot, but of course, some linger around.
But it isn't just blue laws. In Alaska, it's illegal to take pictures of a moose from a plane. In Arkansas, you can't pronounce the name as ar-kan-sas as long as you are in that state.
Roachsylvania
05-09-2004, 21:40
I thought that was national. To keep drinking down on sundays before people go back to work.

How do you justify this: Kids get satudays and sundays off. Why not wednesdays? Some people worship on wednesdays. It's religous discrimination!
Well, I suppost that's at least an argument, even if I don't agree with it. So is this the reason they give, or do they not try to hide the fact that the law is religious?
Skepticism
05-09-2004, 21:40
Why does it matter so much that you can purchase large quantities of alcoholic beverages on every day of the week instead of just six of them?

Give a little (liquor stores stay closed on the Sabbath), maybe get a little (Religious Right keeps it legal to wear bikinis).
Georgeton
05-09-2004, 21:55
Well if its anyhtign like my town (Eastwood) in the Uk, the liquor store clerks are either, so rich after all the business they did last night that thye can afford to take it off, or they're either completely wasted after the heavy drinking of said Saturday night...either way you'll have to find a pub like the rest of us.

Theres also something about DIY stores (mainly B&Q) not beign allowed to sell methalated spirits and/or Turps (might be the same thing actually) before 12noon on a Sunday, its apparently against the law.
Roachsylvania
05-09-2004, 22:00
I'm pretty sure that nationwide (U.S.) you can't sell alcohol before noon at all. And yeah, I guess it would be a good excuse if the clerks were just too hungover to go to work, but that's not the case here.
Katganistan
05-09-2004, 22:04
Cripes, everyone deserves at least ONE day off a week.... ;) buy yer hootch on Saturday and you won't have to worry. ;)
Unfree People
05-09-2004, 22:05
Liquor stores in Minnesota are closed on Sundays. What I'm wondering, is there any reason anyone can give for doing this that isn't based on religion?
Is that a state law or just a widespread practice?
CSW
05-09-2004, 22:05
no more than 2,000 paces a day per person
How the hell did they enforce that.

Unfree: I believe it is against State law to sell Alcohol on a sunday, it is in DE if I remember right.
Chess Squares
05-09-2004, 22:05
i have alresady told you

it is illegal because of two simple words: BLUE LAWS
Georgeton
05-09-2004, 22:08
I'm pretty sure that nationwide (U.S.) you can't sell alcohol before noon at all. And yeah, I guess it would be a good excuse if the clerks were just too hungover to go to work, but that's not the case here.
No alcohol before noon....how do you manage,...theres a shop called Bargain Booze here, and its like open before first lesson at school....errmm not that I'd know.
Roachsylvania
05-09-2004, 22:09
i have alresady told you

it is illegal because of two simple words: BLUE LAWS
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I would think the state would try to tell us it was for some other reason.
Roachsylvania
05-09-2004, 22:11
No alcohol before noon....how do you manage,...theres a shop called Bargain Booze here, and its like open before first lesson at school....errmm not that I'd know.
Hmmm... UK, eh... You guys are my heroes!
Chess Squares
05-09-2004, 22:12
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I would think the state would try to tell us it was for some other reason.
why? thats the one and ONLY reason, blue laws, religious, unwritten laws governing crap
Bamboo-shoot
05-09-2004, 22:13
quote: Kids get satudays and sundays off. Why not wednesdays?

kids in france get wednesdays off
Endless Love
05-09-2004, 22:15
Yeah, the booze stores are closed Sunday here in Colorado too, but not in Cheyenne, Wyoming hence the 1:00 AM border crossings. Oh and no car dealerships are allowed open on Sunday either.
Roachsylvania
05-09-2004, 22:15
why? thats the one and ONLY reason, blue laws, religious, unwritten laws governing crap
*head explodes*
The Force Majeure
05-09-2004, 22:16
I'm pretty sure that nationwide (U.S.) you can't sell alcohol before noon at all. And yeah, I guess it would be a good excuse if the clerks were just too hungover to go to work, but that's not the case here.

You can buy alcohol from 6 am till midnight in Virginia, 7 days a week, but it's not as good as either DC or Louisiana
Demographika
05-09-2004, 22:18
quote: Kids get satudays and sundays off. Why not wednesdays?

kids in france get wednesdays off

Yeah but they go in for the first half of Saturday.

And about that liquor store closure on Sundays..... daft. You need some daft laws like in Austin, Texas, where it's illegal to buy alcohol after midnight on a Sunday, but you buy it on Monday....... At least laws that stupid have no effect.
Roachsylvania
05-09-2004, 22:22
Not only are they closed on Sundays, but when they are open, they close at 9 pm.
Valderixia
05-09-2004, 23:29
Well, there's legislation up here causing bars to have to close at certain times, so it only makes sense that liquour stores should face similar restrictions...

I agree that it sounds highly religious that it's only on Sunday's, though!
Incongruency
06-09-2004, 03:02
I'm from MN, and the only reason is that Jesus wouldn't want us buying alcohol on His day. (Never mind the whole water-to-wine thing.)

We're all a bunch of stern, pious Scandahoovians... ;)
Incertonia
06-09-2004, 03:17
You can buy alcohol from 6 am till midnight in Virginia, 7 days a week, but it's not as good as either DC or LouisianaDepends on where you are in Louisiana--there are blue laws in effect in certain parts of the state. When I was a bartender there, I had one job for Friday/Saturday and another in the adjoining parish for Sunday.
The Force Majeure
06-09-2004, 04:36
Depends on where you are in Louisiana--there are blue laws in effect in certain parts of the state. When I was a bartender there, I had one job for Friday/Saturday and another in the adjoining parish for Sunday.

Ahh...well my only experience is around New Orleans...I walked into a store at around 2 am and asked if I could by beer. He thought I was a moron for asking. Oh well - of course that wasn't sunday.
Incertonia
06-09-2004, 04:41
Ahh...well my only experience is around New Orleans...I walked into a store at around 2 am and asked if I could by beer. He thought I was a moron for asking. Oh well - of course that wasn't sunday.Yeah--there's a pretty sharp cutoff at 2:00 a.m. everywhere I've ever lived in Louisiana. Here's a weird one for you though. In the parish where I worked and lived last, you can't buy liquor or wine in a store on Sunday, and bars can't be open on Sunday, but a bar in a restaurant can serve anything it wants all day.
Willamena
06-09-2004, 04:42
Liquor stores in Minnesota are closed on Sundays. What I'm wondering, is there any reason anyone can give for doing this that isn't based on religion?
Proprietors having a weekend? Staying home with the family?
Roachsylvania
06-09-2004, 04:52
Proprietors having a weekend? Staying home with the family?
No, it's a thing required by law.
Frisbeeteria
06-09-2004, 04:59
It's so the employees of the liquor store can maybe avoid going to HELL for being the sin-enabling, devil-worshiping, God-forsaken bastards that they most certainly are; by turning their lives around by going to church on Sunday morning, the way God and the State Legislatures intended.

By the way, Chess Squares - they aren't unwritten laws. According to this site (http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/B/Blue-law.htm), the first Blue Law author may have been Emporer Constantine back in the 3rd Century. As the first Roman Emporer to recognize Christianity, this adds a certain symetry to the whole business.
Roachsylvania
06-09-2004, 05:14
It's so the employees of the liquor store can maybe avoid going to HELL for being the sin-enabling, devil-worshiping, God-forsaken bastards that they most certainly are; by turning their lives around by going to church on Sunday morning, the way God and the State Legislatures intended.


Ummm... Sorry, but I couldn't tell whether or not you were being sarcastic.
Frisbeeteria
06-09-2004, 05:23
Ummm... Sorry, but I couldn't tell whether or not you were being sarcastic.
As intended ...


just can't bring myself to use smilies. You'll have to figure me out from other posts, I reckon
Roachsylvania
06-09-2004, 05:24
As intended ...
Ah.
Arenestho
06-09-2004, 06:02
In Massachussetts, they had a long list of illegal activities for Sunday, such as girls being covered
I'm starting to the Puritan Massachuessettes would be very pleasant ;)

As to the law, it's rather pathetic. Proof the Church and State are from seperate.
Jello Biafra
06-09-2004, 09:28
Perhaps there's just not enough demand to have them open 7 days a week?

Personally, I couldn't care less if they were closed everyday.