NationStates Jolt Archive


Gated communities

Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 19:04
So. Does anyone here live in a gated community? If so, what is it like? Or perhaps someone here used to live in one and now doesn't anymore. Or the other way around. What are the differences? Are there any? Etc.......
The Land of the Enemy
05-09-2004, 19:38
I don't live in a gated community myself, but I live close enough to several that I have to put up with the kids from them on a regular basis. Mind you, the median house price in those communities is about $4 million and about 99.9% white. But, the kids spend so much time and energy trying to act like poor black kids from some run-down ghetto. Which is really pathetic. It cracks me up to see these white kids try to act poor while driving their huge Escalades with the spinning rims and wearing $80 Abercrombie headbands.
It pisses me off at the same time to see how ungrateful those little pieces of shit are to their parents who provide them with more than they know what to do with, but they seem intent to treat their parents like crap.

God, I hate wiggers.
Incongruency
05-09-2004, 19:41
I don't live in a gated community myself, but I live close enough to several that I have to put up with the kids from them on a regular basis. Mind you, the median house price in those communities is about $4 million and about 99.9% white. But, the kids spend so much time and energy trying to act like poor black kids from some run-down ghetto. Which is really pathetic. It cracks me up to see these white kids try to act poor while driving their huge Escalades with the spinning rims and wearing $80 Abercrombie headbands.
It pisses me off at the same time to see how ungrateful those little pieces of shit are to their parents who provide them with more than they know what to do with, but they seem intent to treat their parents like crap.

God, I hate wiggers.

Sadly, the one thing that these parents haven't bothered to provide for their children is a sense of community and responsibility.
The Land of the Enemy
05-09-2004, 19:45
Sadly, the one thing that these parents haven't bothered to provide for their children is a sense of community and responsibility.


[sigh] I suppose your right. A little discipline would be nice.
Alas! Too many idiots are saying discipline is abuse and too many children are growning up as snobbish brats. They should allow the paddle in schools again.
Ladyrho
05-09-2004, 19:47
Usually communities in high crime areas, put in place for protection.....Guards are posted at entrances to make sure u r suppose to be there...
Unfree People
05-09-2004, 19:47
I grew up in one, have moved out now... it was annoying, I didn't like any of the neighbors, and the housing and yard regulations were ridiculous. We had an elementary school nearby, but I had to drive ages to get to middle school and high school... nah, didn't really care for it.
Ladyrho
05-09-2004, 19:49
Alas! Too many idiots are saying discipline is abuse and too many children are growning up as snobbish brats. They should allow the paddle in schools again.[/QUOTE]
Teachers did abuse paddle use. Do u really want a stranger to paddle ur child?
Ashmoria
05-09-2004, 19:51
i always thought that gated communities let criminals know where the good stuff to steal is located.
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 20:09
the median house price in those communities is about $4 million and about 99.9% white.
I once saw a piece of a documentary on the BBC about gated communities.
I think it was called America beyond the color line. The last ep was about black gated communities. Most of them lived in the Atlanta area.
Letila
05-09-2004, 20:12
I hate them. If I wasn't a pacifist, I'd be tempted to bomb them.
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 20:14
I hate them. If I wasn't a pacifist, I'd be tempted to bomb them.
That wasn't the question.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 20:24
I don't live in a gated community myself, but I live close enough to several that I have to put up with the kids from them on a regular basis. Mind you, the median house price in those communities is about $4 million and about 99.9% white. But, the kids spend so much time and energy trying to act like poor black kids from some run-down ghetto. Which is really pathetic. It cracks me up to see these white kids try to act poor while driving their huge Escalades with the spinning rims and wearing $80 Abercrombie headbands.
It pisses me off at the same time to see how ungrateful those little pieces of shit are to their parents who provide them with more than they know what to do with, but they seem intent to treat their parents like crap.

God, I hate wiggers.
Now, I don't live in a gated community, or even live near one. But I find it dispicable that rich kids are set up as scapegoats. I, for example, have a grandfather in business that is considerably wealthy (but definitly nowhere near these gated community guys). Because of that, I get targeted for bullying. Imagine what it must be like for far richer kids. They didn't have a say in their lifestyle, so why should we critisize them for it?
Chess Squares
05-09-2004, 20:33
Now, I don't live in a gated community, or even live near one. But I find it dispicable that rich kids are set up as scapegoats. I, for example, have a grandfather in business that is considerably wealthy (but definitly nowhere near these gated community guys). Because of that, I get targeted for bullying. Imagine what it must be like for far richer kids. They didn't have a say in their lifestyle, so why should we critisize them for it?
becuase they act like undisciplined snobs?
Letila
05-09-2004, 20:36
Now, I don't live in a gated community, or even live near one. But I find it dispicable that rich kids are set up as scapegoats. I, for example, have a grandfather in business that is considerably wealthy (but definitly nowhere near these gated community guys). Because of that, I get targeted for bullying. Imagine what it must be like for far richer kids. They didn't have a say in their lifestyle, so why should we critisize them for it?

While you're living like a king, millions of Americans are effectively denied healthcare by high costs and poverty. We don't have free healthcare, living is a privilege in the US.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 20:37
becuase they act like undisciplined snobs?
Oh don't get me wrong, some do. I won't be as naive to say I'm not one (but until recently, I was angry every Christmas that I got gifts for some strange reason). But that is a result of bad parenting, and has nothing to do with money or ethnic group. These rich kids being spoiled is just more noticeble because they're such a small group, and humans tend to associate wealth and a decline in moral character, as they go hand in hand. The pope is very wealthy, but what's his morality like? Better than most humans.
Chess Squares
05-09-2004, 20:41
Oh don't get me wrong, some do. I won't be as naive to say I'm not one (but until recently, I was angry every Christmas that I got gifts for some strange reason). But that is a result of bad parenting, and has nothing to do with money or ethnic group. These rich kids being spoiled is just more noticeble because they're such a small group, and humans tend to associate wealth and a decline in moral character, as they go hand in hand. The pope is very wealthy, but what's his morality like? Better than most humans.
morality may be better, general sensibility isnt very up there, and i HIGHLY doubt the pope is very wealthy, HIGHLY doubt. and its not the fact they are rich or the fact they are spoiled, you seem to think thats what im talkngi about, im not. im talking about them being snobs and throwing their wealth around and in peoples faces more or less on purpose to make themselves feel superior.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 20:42
While you're living like a king, millions of Americans are effectively denied healthcare by high costs and poverty. We don't have free healthcare, living is a privilege in the US.
I do not live like a king. Servants are not at my beck and call, nor do they exist in my life. I do chores, just like most people. I may even have to apply for financial aid to get into college. Then again, I'm describing the hyper affluent lifestyle as if it were a bad thing. Those that achieved it ought to be congratulated, not condemned.
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 20:44
Now, I don't live in a gated community, or even live near one. But I find it dispicable that rich kids are set up as scapegoats. I, for example, have a grandfather in business that is considerably wealthy (but definitly nowhere near these gated community guys). Because of that, I get targeted for bullying. Imagine what it must be like for far richer kids. They didn't have a say in their lifestyle, so why should we critisize them for it?
Bullying? I didn't know rich kids are targets of bullying by poorer kids in their private schools.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 20:51
morality may be better, general sensibility isnt very up there, and i HIGHLY doubt the pope is very wealthy, HIGHLY doubt. and its not the fact they are rich or the fact they are spoiled, you seem to think thats what im talkngi about, im not. im talking about them being snobs and throwing their wealth around and in peoples faces more or less on purpose to make themselves feel superior.
First off, I can tell you that the pope is extremely wealthy, or at the very least, gets that lifestyle. He has three palatial residences, two in Italy, and one in Canada. He has a chamberlain at his beck and call day and night. On top of that, he has the world's most affluent NGO after Wal-Mart (of course).
But back to this snobbishness thing. Indeed, quite a few walk around with an air of superiority, but certainly not all. The only reason we see snobs having money is, as I've said, we're accustomed to thinking that the richer you are, the more decadent you are. If this is the case, why bother trying to succeed? It's a very unfair stereotype, especially for those that realize that their lifestyle is one in a million. Any kid that acts superior because of money doesn't have himself to blame, but his parents. They're the ones that have failed to bring their kid up to be a little more humble. In fact, Merryl Lynch released a few years ago a paper to their clients worth $100 million or more, warning what their kids may be like. This is also sad, as the only people that understand the social and psychological problems of being rich are not professionals, but financial experts.
Letila
05-09-2004, 20:51
I do not live like a king. Servants are not at my beck and call, nor do they exist in my life. I do chores, just like most people. I may even have to apply for financial aid to get into college. Then again, I'm describing the hyper affluent lifestyle as if it were a bad thing. Those that achieved it ought to be congratulated, not condemned.

Congradulated for living on the labor of the working class? Never! You didn't earn your wealth, it was stolen from the workers.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 20:54
Bullying? I didn't know rich kids are targets of bullying by poorer kids in their private schools.
That's another thing: I don't go to a private school, if you're drawing that assumption. I've set myself up as rich, but I don't have a vault of gold in my basement.
And btw, bullying of richer kids is far more common than one thinks, even in private schools. This is especially true since more families are getting wealthier, and, in the US at least, it may be even more true with vouchers (not that I'm against them, of course).
Johnistan
05-09-2004, 20:55
Congradulated for living on the labor of the working class? Never! You didn't earn your wealth, it was stolen from the workers.

Be quiet. You are insane.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:00
Be quiet. You are insane.
She is. I think she has her head up in the clouds.
Chess Squares
05-09-2004, 21:00
First off, I can tell you that the pope is extremely wealthy, or at the very least, gets that lifestyle. He has three palatial residences, two in Italy, and one in Canada. He has a chamberlain at his beck and call day and night. On top of that, he has the world's most affluent NGO after Wal-Mart (of course).
those are merely from being the pope, i dont think he gets paid a ludicrous amount of money in addition to what you say.
The Force Majeure
05-09-2004, 21:01
Congradulated for living on the labor of the working class? Never! You didn't earn your wealth, it was stolen from the workers.

So are your parents theives? Or did you whittle your computer from a fallen tree?
Johnistan
05-09-2004, 21:02
She is. I think she has her head up in the clouds.

She's a he.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:02
those are merely from being the pope, i dont think he gets paid a ludicrous amount of money in addition to what you say.
Oh no, but it's a lifelong position.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:03
She's a he.
Oh. I always though he's a she, for some reason. Thanks for clearing that up.
The Force Majeure
05-09-2004, 21:05
Oh. I always though he's a she, for some reason. Thanks for clearing that up.

Me too...probably because of the high level of irrationality...

oh crap, did i say that out loud?
Chess Squares
05-09-2004, 21:06
Oh no, but it's a lifelong position.
and how long does the pope live 10, 20 years at most? research the position of the pope.

the youngest pope was probably 60 or older
Johnistan
05-09-2004, 21:06
Oh. I always though he's a she, for some reason. Thanks for clearing that up.

Letila is effeminate. That's why.
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 21:08
Congradulated for living on the labor of the working class? Never! You didn't earn your wealth, it was stolen from the workers.
I suppose you grew your PC and the operating system it uses in your back yard yes? Or did one of your chickens hatched it for you?
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:09
and how long does the pope live 10, 20 years at most? research the position of the pope.

the youngest pope was probably 60 or older
Well this one has been living forever.
BTW, given that there have been 264 popes since Jesus, and given the many political disputes about the papal throne, it is hard to find a clear trend. One time, a pope was crowned at just nine. Some popes have been alive for forty years, others have been around for as short as a week.
Letila
05-09-2004, 21:09
She's a he.

Exactly.

Letila is effeminate. That's why.

Why? Because I value love more than power? Because I favor coöperation over competition?
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 21:10
That's another thing: I don't go to a private school, if you're drawing that assumption.
No I didn't.
And btw, bullying of richer kids is far more common than one thinks, even in private schools. This is especially true since more families are getting wealthier, and, in the US at least, it may be even more true with vouchers (not that I'm against them, of course).
But thats just run of the mill bullying. Not the oh your rich and we're not so we're gonna kick your ass kinda bullying.
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 21:11
Oh. BTW, gated communities peepz.
Johnistan
05-09-2004, 21:11
Exactly.



Why? Because I value love more than power? Because I favor coöperation over competition?

No, because the name, Letila, sounds feminine. Like Jane, or Amanda.

Yeah, but's that stuff's gh3y TOO!! PWNZORCC
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:11
But thats just run of the mill bullying. Not the oh your rich and we're not so we're gonna kick your ass kinda bullying.
It seems to be more among rich kids, though. Hell, even geeks don't get picked on as mercilessly, from what I've seen.
Chess Squares
05-09-2004, 21:14
Well this one has been living forever.
BTW, given that there have been 264 popes since Jesus, and given the many political disputes about the papal throne, it is hard to find a clear trend. One time, a pope was crowned at just nine. Some popes have been alive for forty years, others have been around for as short as a week.
rofl, your kidding right? hes been there since the late 70s i forget, and hes going to die within the next 5 years and if he does he will be one of the longest living popes in the papal history.. john paul i lasted what a few months?
Ashmoria
05-09-2004, 21:15
Now, I don't live in a gated community, or even live near one. But I find it dispicable that rich kids are set up as scapegoats. I, for example, have a grandfather in business that is considerably wealthy (but definitly nowhere near these gated community guys). Because of that, I get targeted for bullying. Imagine what it must be like for far richer kids. They didn't have a say in their lifestyle, so why should we critisize them for it?
yeah it sucks to be a victim of prejudice. perhaps you can use this to rethink some of your own prejudices.

people shouldnt be judged as a group. there are many many well diciplined respectful children from rich families. just as there are many well diciplined respectful children from poor families.

why judge one group more harshly than the other?
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 21:16
Ok, anyone here lives, lived, knows someone who does or wants to live him/herself in a gated community?
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:17
rofl, your kidding right? hes been there since maybe the early or late 80s i forget, and hes going to die within the next 5 years.. john paul i lasted what 4 years?
There has been many popes. In fact, during the Middle Ages, it was common to have two, or even three popes, as no one could agree who it was to elect.
BTW, Pope John Paul II has reigned since 1979. His predecessor was Pope John Paul I, but he reigned only a month before he died of a heart attack (rumored to be assasination).
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 21:18
There has been many popes. In fact, during the Middle Ages, it was common to have two, or even three popes, as no one could agree who it was to elect.
BTW, Pope John Paul II has reigned since 1979. His predecessor was Pope John Paul I, but he reigned only a month before he died of a heart attack (rumored to be assasination).
Stop the Pope crap. Allthough technically he also lives in a gated community.
Johnistan
05-09-2004, 21:21
I know this white kid that lived in Beunos Aries in a gated community. It had guards and alarm systems because the crime was so bad around the area, and being white is like having a big friggin target on your head.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:21
yeah it sucks to be a victim of prejudice. perhaps you can use this to rethink some of your own prejudices.
Oh I do try. But I myself am not the target of bullying at all. If I have friends over, they don't seem to mind after they get over the shock that I have an Escalade (even though I didn't want mom to get that damn car!).
But hey, I hate prejudice as much as the next guy, even my own. We all harbor prejudice of some sort.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:22
Stop the Pope crap. Allthough technically he also lives in a gated community.
Now that I think of it, I did once meet a woman who lived in a gated house. Very strange lady. She was reclusive, and was a gun collector.
Johnistan
05-09-2004, 21:23
Now that I think of it, I did once meet a woman who lived in a gated house. Very strange lady. She was reclusive, and was a gun collector.

Hot.
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 21:23
I know this white kid that lived in Beunos Aries in a gated community. It had guards and alarm systems because the crime was so bad around the area, and being white is like having a big friggin target on your head.
It is? I thought Argentina is predominantly white.
Chess Squares
05-09-2004, 21:24
There has been many popes. In fact, during the Middle Ages, it was common to have two, or even three popes, as no one could agree who it was to elect.
BTW, Pope John Paul II has reigned since 1979. His predecessor was Pope John Paul I, but he reigned only a month before he died of a heart attack (rumored to be assasination).
how many popes there were is completely irrelevant to how long they live or how they live, i dont even know what the hell you are arguing now. and dont sit there and lecture me about papal history, i was raised catholic and went to a catholic school for 2 years. and that was NOT the reason there were multiple popes during the middle ages. and if john paul ii dies TODAY, he will have been the longest lived pope in ALL of papal history, look it up, i think the last longest living was ~21 years
Johnistan
05-09-2004, 21:26
It is? I thought Argentina is predominantly white.

I would assume it's predominantly latino-ish.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:27
how many popes there were is completely irrelevant to how long they live or how they live, i dont even know what the hell you are arguing now. and dont sit there and lecture me about papal history, i was raised catholic and went to a catholic school for 2 years. and that was NOT the reason there were multiple popes during the middle ages. and if john paul ii dies TODAY, he will have been the longest lived pope in ALL of papal history, look it up, i think the last longest living was ~21 years
Whatever, I better stop arguing. But my point is that the pope has an affluent lifestyle.
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 21:29
I would assume it's predominantly latino-ish.
Well. According to the CIA worldfactbook 97% are of Spanish-Italian decent. The next queen of the Netherlands is Argentinian. Blonde and fairskinned. But her father looks like he could be a Spaniard or an Italian.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:29
Hot.
She was. I know a surprising amount of women who are gun collectors. One of them that I've met has a husband that does the cooking and the gardening, and the wife the shooting and house repairs. It's the opposite of a Norman Rockwell painting :D.
Johnistan
05-09-2004, 21:30
Well. According to the CIA worldfactbook 97% are of Spanish-Italian decent. The next queen of the Netherlands is Argentinian. Blonde and fairskinned. But her father looks like he could be a Spaniard or an Italian.

Ehhh?

He says he'd get knifed walking around the streets alone, but maybe that's just because he's American.
Chess Squares
05-09-2004, 21:31
Whatever, I better stop arguing. But my point is that the pope has an affluent lifestyle.
only from his prestigious position, its like a socialism affluence, he doesnt get paid tons of money but the his life is taken care of. but to be pope you have to spend a good many years as a priestn, then a next highest up, then a cardinal, and if your still alive and you get voted in by luck of the draw you become pope until you die of who knows what..
The Force Majeure
05-09-2004, 21:32
I would assume it's predominantly latino-ish.

I think they are white, very European - not mestizos like the Mexicans

According to Wikipedia, Argentina is only 13% Mestizo
Johnistan
05-09-2004, 21:32
She was. I know a surprising amount of women who are gun collectors. One of them that I've met has a husband that does the cooking and the gardening, and the wife the shooting and house repairs. It's the opposite of a Norman Rockwell painting :D.

Wow, my penis would shrink in that situation.
Purly Euclid
05-09-2004, 21:34
Wow, my penis would shrink in that situation.
Mine already has.
Johnistan
05-09-2004, 21:35
Mine already has.

Whoah.
Peasant peons
05-09-2004, 21:46
Gated communites are a wonderful thing, the rich self ghettoing themself so that when the time comes others dont have have to go to the effort of sorting them out and hunting them down, but instead know exactly where to find them...
VitoxenHafen
05-09-2004, 21:49
I hate them. If I wasn't a pacifist, I'd be tempted to bomb them.



I'd like to know the crime rate and overall statistics on white gated communities versus the black one's, asian, etc


I never, and will never really understand you pacifists ...I mean just call yourselves extremelly left-wing liberal eh ? :-P

Full harmony, peace, unity ...and the very different senses people have towards those words especially the word "love' ...For me love is best described as GOD IS LOVE and what is in the book of Mark. However no one is on the same page about that TOTALLY ...

Equality to its fullest degree [ which is what they want 100 percent harmony in everything ] DOESN'T EXIST ...there has never been a period of time that was TOTALLY PEACEFUL AND IN HARMONY with EVERYTHING ...

History to the present shows this and so will the future ...

...and the "benighted" people call "us" ...me at least ...delusional ...maybe they need to look at this "character" ?


I'm sure in their mind they have perceived people not in the same TOTAL way they have been perceived by other's ...thus he's/she's really not in harmony with their desired illusion of peace in everything. How does one gauge the bias and perceptions of a person when they meet another person or people ..or of what they come into contact with ? you can't ! You never know for sure in total the bias a person has.

Equality, 100 % peace, unity, love ..., can never in our nature be defined with total harmony ...

Besides being passive and liberal to EVERYTHING ... how is that human ? you just let and take everything ? I find that hard to beleive ....in the human psyche and in all creation ...or reality there are set standards,values, and or morale ... without that you are not living ...

I mean I fail to grasp how Full PEACE and UNITY in everything can be reached ??? how ? It can't ! If it can ..please tell me ... creation and/or reality shows this ... no one will treat and think of , and perceive people in the same way or in harmony with another ...

pacifists- people who try to not live !
Bozzy
05-09-2004, 21:55
The only real pro I've noticed to living in a gated community is that there is less traffc and it is slower moving - safer for children.

The additional secruty is questionable, though neighbors seem to be closer. There have been a few robberies here. Deed restrictions seem to be heavier than in non-gated communities. Some of the deed restrictions are unreasonable, most are not.

(One Punta Gorda community has a deed restriction that requires tile roofs -aka hurricane ammunition - Then city wants to ban tile roofs and the HOA has vowed to fight them. Stupid...
Revolutionsz
05-09-2004, 21:56
Teachers did abuse paddle use. Do u really want a stranger to paddle ur child?How old are your kids?
Somewhere
05-09-2004, 21:56
As I live in the UK I haven't seen a gated community before, let alone met somebody from one. But I'm sure of one thing - I wouldn't want to live in the sort of place where your street has to be fortified and guarded.
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 21:57
The additional secruty is questionable
How so?
Chess Squares
05-09-2004, 22:10
paddling was HEAVILY abused at the school i went to, but the schools hands are so tied now they are lucky they can still fail kids
The White Hats
05-09-2004, 22:10
As I live in the UK I haven't seen a gated community before, let alone met somebody from one. But I'm sure of one thing - I wouldn't want to live in the sort of place where your street has to be fortified and guarded.
We have them too, through on a smaller scale, generally. A friend of mine lived in one once. She moved out after she got badly attacked one night walking home there.
Letila
05-09-2004, 22:11
I never, and will never really understand you pacifists ...I mean just call yourselves extremelly left-wing liberal eh ? :-P

Full harmony, peace, unity ...and the very different senses people have towards those words especially the word "love' ...For me love is best described as GOD IS LOVE and what is in the book of Mark. However no one is on the same page about that TOTALLY ...

Equality to its fullest degree [ which is what they want 100 percent harmony in everything ] DOESN'T EXIST ...there has never been a period of time that was TOTALLY PEACEFUL AND IN HARMONY with EVERYTHING ...

History to the present shows this and so will the future ...

...and the "benighted" people call "us" ...me at least ...delusional ...maybe they need to look at this "character" ?


I'm sure in their mind they have perceived people not in the same TOTAL way they have been perceived by other's ...thus he's/she's really not in harmony with their desired illusion of peace in everything. How does one gauge the bias and perceptions of a person when they meet another person or people ..or of what they come into contact with ? you can't ! You never know for sure in total the bias a person has.

Equality, 100 % peace, unity, love ..., can never in our nature be defined with total harmony ...

Besides being passive and liberal to EVERYTHING ... how is that human ? you just let and take everything ? I find that hard to beleive ....in the human psyche and in all creation ...or reality there are set standards,values, and or morale ... without that you are not living ...

I mean I fail to grasp how Full PEACE and UNITY in everything can be reached ??? how ? It can't ! If it can ..please tell me ... creation and/or reality shows this ... no one will treat and think of , and perceive people in the same way or in harmony with another ...

pacifists- people who try to not live !

My goal isn't perfection, but rather a society that doesn't try to be perfect. All the most orderly societies were also the most violent. I want everyone to have an equal amount of freedom and I believe that will reduce violence significantly.
Johnistan
05-09-2004, 22:46
My goal isn't perfection, but rather a society that doesn't try to be perfect. All the most orderly societies were also the most violent. I want everyone to have an equal amount of freedom and I believe that will reduce violence significantly.

Quiet woman.
The Force Majeure
05-09-2004, 22:59
I'd like to live in a gated house, rather than a gated community. With a security force of course, to keep out the huddled masses.
Gishenia
05-09-2004, 23:01
Gated communities offer the most boring, monochromatic, cash-centric way of life on the planet. I wouldn't want to spend a week staying in one, much less raise my kids in a place where everyone is white and "culture" lives inside the TV set and at the local China Palace.

ever read 1984? or seen the movie "Pleasantville"? those kinds of stories are out there for a reason.
The Force Majeure
05-09-2004, 23:05
Gated communities offer the most boring, monochromatic, cash-centric way of life on the planet. I wouldn't want to spend a week staying in one, much less raise my kids in a place where everyone is white and "culture" lives inside the TV set and at the local China Palace.

ever read 1984? or seen the movie "Pleasantville"? those kinds of stories are out there for a reason.


Right - because places like Camden, New Jersey, are the pinnacle of culture
Peasant peons
05-09-2004, 23:34
Right - because places like Camden, New Jersey, are the pinnacle of culture

those places are keepin it real though.
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 23:43
We have them too, through on a smaller scale, generally. A friend of mine lived in one once. She moved out after she got badly attacked one night walking home there.
There are gated communities in the UK? I thought they were an American thing.
The White Hats
05-09-2004, 23:50
There are gated communities in the UK? I thought they were an American thing.
Sure, mostly in the SE round London. Most are small, though - not on the US scale. Pinochet stayed in one near Windsor a few years back when he was detained pending the processing of the Spanish extradition request.
Von Witzleben
05-09-2004, 23:56
Sure, mostly in the SE round London. Most are small, though - not on the US scale. Pinochet stayed in one near Windsor a few years back when he was detained pending the processing of the Spanish extradition request.
Cool.
Von Witzleben
06-09-2004, 13:04
bump
The Holy Word
06-09-2004, 15:31
Quiet woman.I know I shouldn't laugh, but fuck it, that was funny.

On the poor misunderstood rich kids- if people choose to seperate themselves off in gated communitys why should I be pleasant if they come into my neighbourhood? I'm not welcome there after all. You can't have it both ways.
Libertovania
06-09-2004, 15:36
While you're living like a king, millions of Americans are effectively denied healthcare by high costs and poverty. We don't have free healthcare, living is a privilege in the US.
TAANSTAAFL
Jeruselem
06-09-2004, 15:49
So. Does anyone here live in a gated community? If so, what is it like? Or perhaps someone here used to live in one and now doesn't anymore. Or the other way around. What are the differences? Are there any? Etc.......

To me, it's a bit like the City States of Ancient world. Small fortified communities afraid of the rabble outside (for very good reasons).
Bozzy
06-09-2004, 17:00
How so?
I mentioned robberies....
Bozzy
06-09-2004, 17:04
Gated communities offer the most boring, monochromatic, cash-centric way of life on the planet. I wouldn't want to spend a week staying in one, much less raise my kids in a place where everyone is white and "culture" lives inside the TV set and at the local China Palace.

ever read 1984? or seen the movie "Pleasantville"? those kinds of stories are out there for a reason.


And you know this because of why?...

You are stereotyping and you are obviously bigoted. You have no facts to back your opinions, instead just anti-white rhetoric. Life is a reflection of your own atitude, and you deserve the life you have carved for yourself.
Incertonia
06-09-2004, 17:47
My only issue with gated communities is that they allow the inhabitants--people with enough money to get into them--to ignore the outside world, and ignorance, willful or not, is never a good thing. I'd be willing to bet that we'd have more money going into social services, drug rehab, and the like if the people who live in gated communities weren't protected by their walls and their rent-a-cops.
Von Witzleben
06-09-2004, 19:27
I mentioned robberies....
Hmm no. You mentioned dead restrictions. Although thats also a form of robbery.
The Force Majeure
06-09-2004, 20:09
those places are keepin it real though.

touche
Bozzy
06-09-2004, 20:36
Hmm no. You mentioned dead restrictions. Although thats also a form of robbery.
It is the third sentence. I don't know how much more obvious it would have to be for you.
Von Witzleben
06-09-2004, 23:13
It is the third sentence. I don't know how much more obvious it would have to be for you.
Sorry. My mistake.
Von Witzleben
07-09-2004, 12:47
My only issue with gated communities is that they allow the inhabitants--people with enough money to get into them--to ignore the outside world, and ignorance, willful or not, is never a good thing. I'd be willing to bet that we'd have more money going into social services, drug rehab, and the like if the people who live in gated communities weren't protected by their walls and their rent-a-cops.
Hmmm, yeah. I heard that some people say that living in a gated community makes the inhabitants and their off springs somewhat ignorant to the world outside of their shielded bubbles.
Von Witzleben
08-09-2004, 14:40
To me, it's a bit like the City States of Ancient world. Small fortified communities afraid of the rabble outside (for very good reasons).
But in the city states in the good ol' days the rabble lived inside the walls. It wasn't just the wealthy ones living there.
Eli
08-09-2004, 14:54
My only issue with gated communities is that they allow the inhabitants--people with enough money to get into them--to ignore the outside world, and ignorance, willful or not, is never a good thing. I'd be willing to bet that we'd have more money going into social services, drug rehab, and the like if the people who live in gated communities weren't protected by their walls and their rent-a-cops.


f society actually enforced the law instead of 'counseling' the criminals the need for gated communities would be less. if the government won't supply the protection needed for its citizens, which is goverment's only real role, the private sector will provide it.

I have lived in gated communities in the periods of time when I lived in metro areas. In most metro areas this is needed as the police spend all their time in the high crime areas. ;)