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How would that be being more cowardly than using family connections to avoid going to Viet Nam at all? (Notice I carefully avoided calling either action cowardly, just asking on what basis one would consider what Kerry did worse).
At least Kerry can say he can say he actively faced enemy combatants, rather doing all that he could to avoid them (since he obviously returned to the scene of the battle).

Kerry didn't flee anything. The Swift Boat vets charges have been proven false, though of course, in true Republican form, they just keep saying it anyway.

Kerry didn't flee anything. The Swift Boat vets charges have been proven false, though of course, in true Republican form, they just keep saying it anyway.
I never said he did... I purposely phrased the first part of the sentence as a conditional statement (what if?), meaning that I don't necessarily accept it as true.

Bottom line on Vietnam: Silver Star with combat V

Kerry has no credibility.

George W Bush fled. On his Inaguration Day, he fled from unarmed peaceful protestors. I saw video footage of George W Bush's bulletproof limo suddenly speed away from a group of protestors who were just standing there while the secret service guys ran to catch up with the limo. Video footage proves Bush fled. The proof that Kerry fled is Friends of Bill says so

Kerry was in combat. The swift boat ads are pure utter crap, remember the guy who said he treated Kerry's wounds? His statment would be worth something if his name was on Kerry's records. Saying you served with John Kerry means you served on his boat or his immediate squadron, not if you served on the Mekong or another river somewhere else in Vietnam no where near him.

Out of all the Republicans, only McCain has the right to go toe to toe with Kerry about Vietnam, he was in it. Bush and Cheny have no right to question Kerry's action.

On another note, why are the Republicans so worked up about Vietnam and not the economy? Plus, Vietnam was about 30-40 years ago, we should look at the "War" in Iraq not the Vietnam conflict.

Bottom line on Vietnam: Silver Star with combat V

Kerry has no credibility.
Blame the moron who signed off on it, not Kerry.

Hey everyone!

GUESS WHAT?!

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF HE FLED OR IF HE SERVED HIS TIME WITH DESTINCTION!

I mean, seriously, do we judge somebody so incredibly stupidly? Kerry went to Vietnam. That should not make us care a whiff about about him either way. It is what he wants to do with the country we should care about. The jerks who keep bringing it up make the Republicans look bad. The fact that Kerry cares at this point makes him look bad to me. Thousands of people dodged the draft, and later ran for office. Does the fact that they were in one country instead of another make them any less of a skilled politician? NO!

Look for the canidate you like. Find many reasons to like the canidate you like, and back them up (I like Mickey Mouse because he will institute manditory wearing of mouse ears at all times. I like the idea of all mouse eared society). I am against higher taxes, beurocracy, major debt spending and competition between the FBI and local police forces. The only debates that could push me to either canidate are social security, education and abortion. At this point, I am so disgusted with Kerry AND Bush that I am seriously considering throwing my support behind Mickey Mouse. I feel that a cartoon character would do a much finer job in office. Wouldn't YOU be nervous if the largest nuclear arsonal on this planet was controled by a 2-dimentional mouse? I would be, and that would be a great bargining tool in economics.

So, be quiet about their pasts. Other than honesty *laughs while rolling on the floor in absolute helplessness at the thought of an honest politician* there is no reason to go into these peoples pasts at all.

-R. S. of UC

Well, you might well say that, since the people trying to claim there's something bad in Kerry's past can only lie about deserving his Vietnam medals and complain he became anti war after seeing what went on there.

Whereas Bush, of course, was a drunk, cokehead, and someone whose military service records about the time surrounding an AWOL charge just happen to be missing...

All this of course, is apparently OK because he claims to have been 'Born Again' and waves a Bible... I'm *very* concerned about his past.

People claim Kerry 'flip-flops,' when actually he does his job and understands as a legislator the nuances of particular bills and forms of laws: A law is not a position paper: it's legal language whose phrasings are important. You can support an issue without supporting specific language in or riders on a given bill, even if you could support the language in another bill on the same issue.

I support him because he expresses his principles *intelligently,* not just politically. His opponent cuts education spending, calls it a 'No Child Left behind Act' and claims he's supporting education, when the actual effect of the law is the opposite.

Kerry's caught flak for voting against a version of a 'Support Our Troops' law that actually *didn't sufficiently fund* armour protection for our fellow citizens trying to police Iraq. He may not be long on personality to a lot of people, but I don't find Bush's seeming near-*illiteracy* or his inability to answer unscripted questions very charming, either.

He knows Washington, he knows foreign relations, and he knows what America is *supposed* to be all about. And still *can* be, if we'll step outside the soundbytes and the spin and look at the actual business of our government.

(sorta got sidetracked into the Why Kerry thread's topic, there, but.. It's time for bed. :) )

If Kerry didn't flee or anything, then why won't he release his war records?

If Kerry didn't flee or anything, then why won't he release his war records?

Well the shrub has his locked.

All of the Swift Boat Veterens for "truth" have theirs locked up as well.

I have a mad craving for Heinv catsup.

Heinz. I meant Heinz

You know why these people make such a stink about Kerry's war record?

Becuase while Kerry was serving his country against hostile enemy combatants, Bush was being grounded for being drunk and disorderly, while he was shoving a lot of powder up his nose.

They dont like to talk about that, and are trying to distract you.

You know why these people make such a stink about Kerry's war record?

Becuase while Kerry was serving his country against hostile enemy combatants, Bush was being grounded for being drunk and disorderly, while he was shoving a lot of powder up his nose.

They dont like to talk about that, and are trying to distract you.

Remember Willi Hortan(sp)?