NationStates Jolt Archive


Neo?

DHomme
04-09-2004, 15:24
Okay, can somebody please explain to me the difference between the following-

Conservatives and neo conservatives?

Old liberals and New liberals? (also does this change depending on whether youre in the US or the UK?)

Fascists, Neo fascists and Crypto Fascists?

Nazis and Neo nazis?

Because not knowing is getting on my nerves
Conceptualists
04-09-2004, 15:40
Neo, means new and different.

We don't have the term "Neo-Con" over in Britain really, but I think it is the thread within conservatism which has a fundementalist Christian streak in it. Neo fits in because it is a relitively new form of Conservativism which is markedly different to the old brand.

By old Liberals do you mean Classic Liberals?

If so, the modern term for them is Libertarian. No idea why modern liberals are called liberals.

Never heard the term Neo-Fascist, have heard Neo-Nazi though. Which refers to the revivalists of National Socialist doctorine. Crypto-Facists are people with views border on the high authoritarian bend of Fascism but not quite there, but is probably more used to describe people more Authoritarian then oneself who you want to look bad.

Nazi specifically refers to a member of the German National Socialists Party (which no longer exists, therefore you cannot really have any Nazis, except in a historical context).
_Myopia_
04-09-2004, 15:42
Old liberals and New liberals?

Well I think this would be as follows, at least in the UK:

Old liberals: At the end of the 19th century, the Liberal Party had fairly Libertarian values.

New Liberals: The 20th century Liberal (later Liberal Democrat) party began to lessen their laissez-faire economic attitudes, recognising the importance of "freedom from" - e.g. freedom from poverty, freedom from ignorance, freedom from ill-health. This is somewhat closer to the US definition of "liberal", although the Liberal Democrat party does oppose actual socialism (they are still I think proponents of smaller government).

Neo Liberals: I'm not so sure on this, but I think it refers to something of a return to the older liberal connection between belief in both greater economic and social/personal freedom.
DHomme
04-09-2004, 15:44
Well I think this would be as follows, at least in the UK:

Old liberals: At the end of the 19th century, the Liberal Party had fairly Libertarian values.

New Liberals: The 20th century Liberal (later Liberal Democrat) party began to lessen their laissez-faire economic attitudes, recognising the importance of "freedom from" - e.g. freedom from poverty, freedom from ignorance, freedom from ill-health. This is somewhat closer to the US definition of "liberal", although the Liberal Democrat party does oppose actual socialism (they are still I think proponents of smaller government).

Neo Liberals: I'm not so sure on this, but I think it refers to something of a return to the older liberal connection between belief in both greater economic and social/personal freedom.

I know this, but is it different in America?