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House of Cards (a Reality Thread)

Amerigo
04-09-2004, 09:29
(Hey if the nightclub threads prosper in General why shouldn't this?)

Amerigo brings you a thread unlike any other...
The house of cards...
It is a reality show type game that you shall never forget!

Now before you yawn... and say not another reality show hear me out... its an ingenious idea.

Here are the rules. Each person who participates in this game will be secretly given (TMed) a card label from a standard 52 deck of cards (ie. ace of spades, queen of clubs etc.). Now all shall RP their presense in a large mansion...

So here is the object of the game. To gather a group of people that will create the highest poker hand. I'll remind those that don't play poker the order again.

Now here is where the catch comes in. One cannot trust anyone... for it is the person who posts the list of five people that gets the "prize" (1 million NS cyber dollars) and he can share it with the people on the list if he wishes or he can keep it to himself. So thus one cant reveal one's card to everybody. One must gather the trust of the group of five so that they may divide the money as is needed. So thus one could lie about his given card to test people... All sorts of intrigue and that sort of thing. Sign up here... and post any questions...

EDIT: And a new added twist I thought up of... The highest declared "hand" (group) will attempt to maintain its rank as the hand and try to stop other from making a higher "hand". Because if another group forms a higher "hand" in one day... the first group doesn't get the prize... But that adds more intrigue into the matter... the first highest hand "member" can also make a pact with the others who are forming a higher hand...

EDIT 2:Also to prevent people from posting random names in general... Each player can only post the five names once in the whole game! Dum dum dum!


Sign up first then visit the Pre-Game Mansion thread "Get Familiar with the enviorment as people sign up" Here it is (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=354634)
Irondin
04-09-2004, 09:32
ok Im in
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:04
Aw weak... only one person...
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 19:11
Ok, I'll do it.
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:14
And another... Yay!

Tell your friends!

We'd need AT LEAST 10...
Brittanic States
04-09-2004, 19:15
Sounds fun- I wanna play too! :D
The fairy tinkerbelly
04-09-2004, 19:16
i would play but i don't understand
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 19:19
Can I suggest though that we play with a short poker deck, A, K, Q, J, 10, 9, 8, 7, in case we don't get the full 52 people.

(it's 32 cards in that deck btw)


Poker rankings:
5 of a kind (requires wild cards)
5 cards with the same number
Straight flush
A straight all in the same suit.
4 of a kind
4 cards with the same number
Full House
Three of a kind plus a pair
Straight
5 cards in ascending order (eg: 9, 10, J, Q, K)
Flush
All cards in the same suit
Three of a kind
3 cards with the same number
Two pair
Two pairs of different value
Pair
Two cards with the same value
High card
If no-one has anything else, the highest card wins
Paxania
04-09-2004, 19:19
Sounds fun.
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:21
i would play but i don't understand
See what the object is to gather a group of five people that make the highest poker hand... Now everyone secretly knows his own card but doesn't know anyone elses. And the person who declares all the names of the group of five will get the prize, so thats why you can't just tell your own card to anyone. You'll have to make some agreement, so the person who declares the 5 names won't walk away with the prize.

And a new added twist I thought up of... The highest declared "hand" (group) will attempt to maintain its rank as the hand and try to stop other from making a higher "hand". Because if another group forms a higher "hand" in one day... the first group doesn't get the prize... But that adds more intrigue into the matter... the first highest hand "member" can also make a pact with the others who are forming a higher hand...
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 19:22
How do you declare what you have, and is there some sort of time limit?
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:23
Can I suggest though that we play with a short poker deck, A, K, Q, J, 10, 9, 8, 7, in case we don't get the full 52 people.

(it's 32 cards in that deck btw)


Poker rankings:
5 of a kind (requires wild cards)
5 cards with the same number
Straight flush
4 of a kind
4 cards with the same number
Full House
Three of a kind plus a pair
Straight
5 cards in ascending order (eg: 9, 10, J, Q, K)
Flush
All cards in the same suit
Three of a kind
3 cards with the same number
Two pair
Two pairs of different value
Pair
Two cards with the same value
High card
If no-one has anything else, the highest card wins
Good idea... We'll play with a shorter deck... and if other people want to come in on the action we'll just introduce more cards!
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 19:25
Good idea... We'll play with a shorter deck... and if other people want to come in on the action we'll just introduce more cards!
If you introduce more cards though... won't that mean that the new people will have to have the new (lower) numbers?
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:25
How do you declare what you have, and is there some sort of time limit?
Post the five names and there is day time limit. When that hand must be beaten or they win! (see the edit)

Also to prevent people from posting random names in general... Each player can only post the five names once in the whole game! Dum dum dum!
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 19:26
Post the five names and there is day time limit. When that hand must be beaten or they win! (see the edit)

Also to prevent people from posting random names in general... Each player can only post the five names once in the whole game! Dum dum dum!
...unless your hand gets beaten, in which case you could try to regain a better one, right?

Do you reveal what your hand is at the same time as you reveal the 5 guys? If so, doesn't that mean that your groups cards are gonna be known to everyone?
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:27
If you introduce more cards though... won't that mean that the new people will have to have the new (lower) numbers?
Yeah... adds more strategy to the game... keeps the newbies segregated and appear to be weak... but then suddenly they might just come at ya with a low straight flush!

And after the 32 spaces are filled... new participants can only be introduced in groups of five...
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:28
...unless your hand gets beaten, in which case you could try to regain a better one, right?
No you'd have to make a deal with someone hasn't declared his/her hand yet... Damn where is that evil smile from NS when ya need 'em....
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 19:32
Do you reveal what your hand is at the same time as you reveal the 5 guys? If so, doesn't that mean that your groups cards are gonna be known to everyone, and they could just change the worst card over to make a better hand (eg, you reveal a flush, and they change the lowest card to a higher card to have a very marginally better hand)?
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:33
Do you reveal what your hand is at the same time as you reveal the 5 guys? If so, doesn't that mean that your groups cards are gonna be known to everyone, and they could just change the worst card over to make a better hand (eg, you reveal a flush, and they change the lowest card to a higher card to have a very marginally better hand)?
Nope... Since I know what card each person has... you just post the names.
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 19:34
Nope... Since I know what card each person has... you just post the names.
Then how do other people know if the hand they've collected is better or worse? Or do you just say what you've got (eg, full house) without revealing the exact values?
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:36
Then how do other people know if the hand they've collected is better or worse?
Well I tell them if its better or worse... When 1 group declares that they ahve a hand and then a second different group does likewiswe... I inform the second group if their hand is in fact worse... and they must scramble to collect a better one...
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:37
Still five...
(and people... who have signed up but haven't been watching this thread.... check back to the first post for edits...)
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 19:42
Well I tell them if its better or worse... When 1 group declares that they ahve a hand and then a second different group does likewiswe... I inform the second group if their hand is in fact worse... and they must scramble to collect a better one...
But they're only allowed to post one hand.
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:43
But they're only allowed to post one hand.
There's five people... Only the person who declared the hand can't declare it again... The others can still declare a hand!
Konstantia II
04-09-2004, 19:47
I have Five Queens.
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 19:48
I have Five Queens.
That better be a signup... Cause we need more people!
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 19:56
There's five people... Only the person who declared the hand can't declare it again... The others can still declare a hand!
But you can declare it without being in league with anyone. If you're playing without a team, then you're screwed. Also, if you have a particularly weak card, you're much less likely to get good teammates, so you may have to play solo.
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 19:58
I suggest that you should have to post your 5 guys, but also TM Amerigo (or an appropriate puppet) to say what you believe each of these people to be. You don't have to be 100% right, but It'd show that you aren't just guessing randomly.
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 20:02
But you can declare it without being in league with anyone. If you're playing without a team, then you're screwed. Also, if you have a particularly weak card, you're much less likely to get good teammates, so you may have to play solo.
If you have a weak card...

You can lie about your card... and thus backstab

Playing solo is not reccommended... but is possible... It is after all possible to find the elusive Royal Flush! And no one can beat you!
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 20:04
I suggest that you should have to post your 5 guys, but also TM Amerigo (or an appropriate puppet) to say what you believe each of these people to be. You don't have to be 100% right, but It'd show that you aren't just guessing randomly.
Meh we'll see how the first game runs... and make modifications from there... Right now I'd think it should work with the one declaration... per person... It encourages more interaction... after all thats whats the game all about... that intrigue... and backstabbing and waiting to strike...
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 20:04
If you have a weak card...

You can lie about your card... and thus backstab

Playing solo is not reccommended... but is possible... It is after all possible to find the elusive Royal Flush! And no one can beat you!
Make it more than one declare, but still a limited number. Like 5 or something, maybe?
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 20:06
And to make things very interesting you must post how you will divide the money among your "team" when you post a hand!

Get your friends Spoff!
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 20:07
Make it more than one declare, but still a limited number. Like 5 or something, maybe?
Nah... it encourages guessing nonetheless... makes things easier... It's hit or miss...

I might make it more as the game continues if we run into problems....
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 20:08
Fair enough

What about registering with puppets though? Then you'd have many cards, and many guesses.
Brittanic States
04-09-2004, 20:10
Fair enough

What about registering with puppets though? Then you'd have many cards, and many guesses.
Hmm that could kinda screw the game up- should it be UN nations only?
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 20:10
Fair enough

What about registering with puppets though? Then you'd have many cards, and many guesses.
We need to get a mod to signup....
I guess...

Use your connections Spoffin...

All my connections are either ancient or long gone... :(
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 20:11
Hmm that could kinda screw the game up- should it be UN nations only?
I know some people don't have even one nation in the UN... I'm one of em.
Brittanic States
04-09-2004, 20:13
I know some people don't have even one nation in the UN... I'm one of em.
Hmm true dat.
I wanna know what my card is!!one!!one1 ;)
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 20:13
We need to get a mod to signup....
I guess...

Use your connections Spoffin...

All my connections are either ancient or long gone... :(
I don't know if they'd agree to monitor an unofficial contest, especially if the nations in question didn't agree to be probed for multiing. Unless you made joining an automatic consent to a scan, but even then...
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 20:15
I don't know if they'd agree to monitor an unofficial contest, especially if the nations in question didn't agree to be probed for multiing. Unless you made joining an automatic consent to a scan, but even then...
Well not so much monitor as participate...

And yes that consent agreement would be a good idea...
Spoffin
04-09-2004, 20:19
Well not so much monitor as participate...

And yes that consent agreement would be a good idea...
Couldn't they cheat by reading TM boxes though? :lol:
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 20:20
Couldn't they cheat by reading TM boxes though? :lol:
I would hope not, but of course people will no doubt complain and accuse mods of doing that... so we should prolly stick to forum mods...
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 20:36
If we get at least 4 more... I'll make the pre game mansion thread... where you can make yourself more comfortable as you await more signups!
Brittanic States
04-09-2004, 21:40
BUMP
need more signups- hmm Parratogas bound to be up for this surely? Then we only need three more- god damn it where are the spamming armys of adelaide when I need em?
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 21:48
BUMP
need more signups- hmm Parratogas bound to be up for this surely? Then we only need three more- god damn it where are the spamming armys of adelaide when I need em?
CAll forth your friends BRit!
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 22:04
Oh hell I'll make the Mansion thread... now... Maybe it'll attract more people to sign up...
Brittanic States
04-09-2004, 22:05
Oh hell I'll make the Mansion thread... now... Maybe it'll attract more people to sign up...
Good idea- hmm if its a mansion maybe we could play cluedo or something in there as well?
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 22:09
Good idea- hmm if its a mansion maybe we could play cluedo or something in there as well?
Its as mysterious as Clue yes... and thrice as large!
Amerigo
04-09-2004, 22:26
Here it is (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=354634)
Amerigo
05-09-2004, 09:33
Bump~
Our Earth
05-09-2004, 09:41
uh... um...

*signs up*
Amerigo
05-09-2004, 09:43
uh... um...

*signs up*
Thats only 6 so far!!!

:(

TELL YOUR FRIENDS!
The White Hats
05-09-2004, 10:57
Not quite sure I understand the rules, but I guess it'll become clearer.

Sign me up, please.
Cyber Duck
05-09-2004, 15:26
im in
Amerigo
05-09-2004, 19:16
8... Come on...a few more...
Amerigo
06-09-2004, 07:53
BUMp!
Amerigo
07-09-2004, 00:50
Bump~~~
Amerigo
07-09-2004, 05:15
Last bump... and if still no one signs up you play to make a three card hand...


Same rules apply...

Except theres no two pair... and four of a kinds

Thus lowest to highest...

high card: ace 10 4
two pair: 4 4 9
three of a kind: 6 6 6
straight: 9 10 j
flush: all one suit
straight flush: q j 10 (all one suit)
royal flush: a k q (all one suit)
Mezzaluna
07-09-2004, 05:32
I'm in, Amerigo.
Amerigo
07-09-2004, 23:23
We start using the three card variation! I'm tired of waiting!
Amerigo
07-09-2004, 23:29
In the process of.
Spoffin
07-09-2004, 23:31
Have you sent out the cards yet?
Amerigo
07-09-2004, 23:43
The cards have all been sent out. Please telegram me back with your card clearly stated as a confirmation of your participation.

Begin as soon as you do this in the thread linked in the first post....

Also please note that the cards were assigned randomly and gender was not considered.
Amerigo
07-09-2004, 23:44
Have you sent out the cards yet?
OMG I WENT BACK IN TIME!

I responded after it was posted and look... I apparently responded two minutes before you posted that!
Amerigo
07-09-2004, 23:52
Your TM box is gonna get flooded. I've got my card.
O no! Nine telegrams! And thats at max so far.... I'm assuming it'll be around 6... though...

It's too bad so few people signed up...
Spoffin
07-09-2004, 23:52
OMG I WENT BACK IN TIME!

I responded after it was posted and look... I apparently responded two minutes before you posted that!
I noticed that, thats really weird.
Amerigo
07-09-2004, 23:52
I think this thread is high on cocaine... it did it again...
Spoffin
07-09-2004, 23:53
Your TM box is gonna get flooded. I've got my card.
Irondin
07-09-2004, 23:57
how are you doing that?
Amerigo
08-09-2004, 00:00
how are you doing that?
It's the thread! It's possessed!
AthaliteGamers
08-09-2004, 01:12
Sign me up... I WANT JACK OF SPADES!! :headbang: ...sorry but really cool idea
Amerigo
08-09-2004, 01:20
Sign me up... I WANT JACK OF SPADES!! :headbang: ...sorry but really cool idea
You're not a puppet of anyone are ya?
Sexc Angels
08-09-2004, 01:24
Hey how's it going? Can I play?
Amerigo
08-09-2004, 01:29
Hey how's it going? Can I play?
Same question as above...
Sexc Angels
08-09-2004, 01:31
What? Am I a puppet? No I don't think so.
Amerigo
08-09-2004, 01:32
What? Am I a puppet? No I don't think so.
Ok I'll TG your card.

(Just make sure you've read through all the rules and rule modifications (ie. this WHOLE thread)
Sexc Angels
08-09-2004, 01:34
Yes I have, don't stress.
The White Hats
08-09-2004, 22:53
Do we need a list of players?
Amerigo
09-09-2004, 01:25
Do we need a list of players?
I don't think its that important... I know the list of players and thats what's important.
Amerigo
09-09-2004, 01:37
I think it'd be handy, so we know who to negotiate with.
Well anyone who posts on the Mansion thread... that is the primary method of communication among players... and should a private conversation occur it will be done via telegrams...
Spoffin
09-09-2004, 01:38
I don't think its that important... I know the list of players and thats what's important.
I think it'd be handy, so we know who to negotiate with.
Amerigo
09-09-2004, 01:38
Why does this weird time reversal thing always happen when I post after you post???
Spoffin
09-09-2004, 01:41
Well anyone who posts on the Mansion thread... that is the primary method of communication among players... and should a private conversation occur it will be done via telegrams...
Its doing it again.