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Would you die for America? I mean say you're deployed to Iraq or wherever war takes you.

Would you glady die for America to ensure it's freedoms? Not to be patriotic to your party but to your home and country?

Or if you had a president thats different then your ploitcal party, would you not die for your country. You'd rather be patriotic to your party then your nation.

For me, I dont givbe two hoots if the president is Republican or Democratic and I have to go to war. I'm patriotic for my country and not my party. So I would glady die for Anerica, not foe the Republicans or Democrats.

Would you die for America?
Not in a gazillion years.

Burn me at the steak if it means that America, and the world can be free!


However, I'm not going to fight other countries wars...which mean's I won't go to Iraq to fight for them. However, should, say New Zealand decide to invade say Colorado, then I'd be the first one there to defend the US!!!

My problem is that Americans don't need to be dying in Iraq right now for America to be safe. If the safety of my country and people were really at stake, I would be willing to die to protect them, but I wouldn't die for one man's psychotic crusade.

Yes

is it just me or was that a yes or no question?

Absolutely, if it doesn't get taken over by the left-wingers. This should be a poll.

would America die for us?

Die for the original America? Yes.

Die for the Union (during the Civil War)? No.

Die for the Confederacy (during the Civil War)? Yes.

Die for post-Wilson America? Depends.

Die for Bush? Hell no! :mad:

If the my nation were at stake, yes I would.

Too bad Iraq had nothing to do with protecting America.

Eh, not right now. Maybe later.

I would die for Canada if it meant future Canadians had more civil liberties and more democratic rights, as well as a safer country. And, seeing how I'm Canadian, I would never die for America, especially not under the Bush regime.

would you die for america?Would you glady die for America to ensure it's freedoms? Not to be patriotic to your party but to your home and country?
those are the questions. I appear to be the only one capable of giving a coherent answer ( it is yes or no)


YES
YES
YES

However, I'm not going to fight other countries wars...which mean's I won't go to Iraq to fight for them. However, should, say New Zealand decide to invade say Colorado, then I'd be the first one there to defend the US!!!

LOL!! New Zealand invade Colorado... with what? A couple of beaten up Orions, maybe a C-3 Hercules (if it doesn't break down on the flight over), and LAV's we can't even transport anywhere?

The Colorado State Troopers would probably put our finest to shame.

… it was a nice thought. But won’t happen this decade.

Proud of my country, but not its army.

Would you die for America? I mean say you're deployed to Iraq or wherever war takes you.

Would you glady die for America to ensure it's freedoms? Not to be patriotic to your party but to your home and country?

Or if you had a president thats different then your ploitcal party, would you not die for your country. You'd rather be patriotic to your party then your nation.

For me, I dont givbe two hoots if the president is Republican or Democratic and I have to go to war. I'm patriotic for my country and not my party. So I would glady die for Anerica, not foe the Republicans or Democrats.
Well, I'm off to Iraq next week so...

well here is my full fledged opinion in truth...
...America, our country, is what we are, we make America what it is, and America is trying to make the world better, to sacrifice our lives for America would mean sacrificing our lives for the world. America is our nation, where we live, we should take great pride in it, but many times that pride is misunderstood, and America is dissowned by us, we should all be ready to die for our country, because to die for our country would be to die for a part of us, and a part of million's of others...
...so yes I would die for America

Would you die for America? I mean say you're deployed to Iraq or wherever war takes you.

Would you glady die for America to ensure it's freedoms? Not to be patriotic to your party but to your home and country?

Or if you had a president thats different then your ploitcal party, would you not die for your country. You'd rather be patriotic to your party then your nation.

For me, I dont givbe two hoots if the president is Republican or Democratic and I have to go to war. I'm patriotic for my country and not my party. So I would glady die for Anerica, not foe the Republicans or Democrats.

That's a really broad question, but I'll try my best

I'd die, basically, for my country in a situation where I knew it was for a good cause, and it would be worth something.

I would not die for my country in Iraq.
I wouldn't have died for my country in Vietnam
I would have in World War II

As for being patriotic toward a political party of a country. I'm patriotic for my country the way I would envision it. I mean if hitler had taken over america, would you still support your government? No. I wouldn't either. it's sort of like that, but on a lesser scale for me.

would you die for america?Would you glady die for America to ensure it's freedoms? Not to be patriotic to your party but to your home and country?
those are the questions. I appear to be the only one capable of giving a coherent answer ( it is yes or no)


YES
YES
YES

Am I willing to die for the U.S.? well if the U.S. is willing to let me live here instead of a life in poverty over in the middle east, of course the idea of risking it all might be confusing, but isnt the point that america gave me this oppurtunity in the first place? yes i would gladly die for my nation if it was for a good cause.

finaly someone who has a clear answer!

Die for what America stands for? Hell yes.
Die for what Bush wants America to stand for? Hell no.
Die fighting the latter for the former? Hell yes.

Die for what America stands for? Hell yes.
Die for what Bush wants America to stand for? Hell no.
Die fighting the latter for the former? Hell yes.

ok, once again, the questions were: would you die for america?Would you glady die for America to ensure it's freedoms? Not to be patriotic to your party but to your home and country?
those are the questions. Not the ones you make up to make some sort of statement about the President.

Would you die for America?

Hopefully, that won't be asked of me. But should I find myself in that situation, yes.

Well,

Regardless of the world political theatre, I believe that i owe it to my country to Die for freedom, better than rotting away till i am 90 or something.

If the UK-US-Canada-NZ or us Aussies ever went to a "Real war" you could bet your arse i'd be there for any of them. We are all the same and the only way to stay in power is to stay at war. Regardless of the human costs history would appreciate the sacrifice we make to ensure our nations stay in the OWNERSHIP seat.

Of course till China realizes her might, then were all screwed.

rolls

Would you die for America? I mean say you're deployed to Iraq or wherever war takes you.

Would you glady die for America to ensure it's freedoms? Not to be patriotic to your party but to your home and country?
To ensure it's freedoms, not to fight in a war that has no real connections to my country's freedoms and security

Or if you had a president thats different then your ploitcal party, would you not die for your country. You'd rather be patriotic to your party then your nation.
Depends on the situation. Fight against the Japanese in WW2? Gladly. Fight against the Iraqis? No.

For me, I dont givbe two hoots if the president is Republican or Democratic and I have to go to war. I'm patriotic for my country and not my party. So I would glady die for Anerica, not foe the Republicans or Democrats.
VIVA LA AMERICA baby!

why is it that after such a clear yes or no question only 6 out of 17 peope who have responded have actualy given an answer which can answer the question?

Of course I would say good-bye to all my loved ones for the last time, and travel half-way 'round the world only to be killed by a terrorist.
Wait. No I wouldn't. That's fucking insane.

No. I would not die for any nation at this time. A nation can be rebuilt, an idea can never be destroyed. People's lives are irreplacable. I would certainly fight if people invaded, but to protect my loved ones, not the nation. The former is much, much more important to me than the latter.

The way I see it (hoo boy I'm gonna get flamed for this), I had no choice where I was born. I have never in my life had the resources to move to another country. Therefore, while I enjoy living here (most of the time), and am thankful for the opportunities it has given me, I feel I have no duty to defend it; it's not "my country" unless I CHOOSE it.

And yes, as you've probably guessed by now, I am an anarchist.

ok, once again, the questions were: would you die for america?Would you glady die for America to ensure it's freedoms? Not to be patriotic to your party but to your home and country?
those are the questions. try to answer THEM.

Of course I would say good-bye to all my loved ones for the last time, and travel half-way 'round the world only to be killed by a terrorist.
Wait. No I wouldn't. That's fucking insane.

The point isn't about dying. No one wants to die. Deployment isn't about going somewhere to get killed. It is, however, knowing that death is a risk, and accepting that knowledge.

None of you can, exept the anarchist fellow.....his seems to be no.

Undecidedterritory - - It is not a Black or White question when you put it into context. I am not American, but would gladly die for her.

Undecidedterritory - - It is not a Black or White question when you put it into context. I am not American, but would gladly die for her.

the questions are very black and white. would you die for america? to ensure it's freedoms? For your home and country?

What is so hard about answering yes or no? I don't understand.

Rolls, as an American let me say, Thank YOU for what you said.

Bill O'Reilly would.

Anarchis, it is not about choosing a country to defend- it is about defending the dirt that has made you who you are.

If you would not die for your country in war i would hope you move to Russia and see there thoughts on the matter.

what the .... PAXANIA! Why can't you answer the questions? GOOD LORD!

why would you exept all the advantages of your country but also be unwilling to defend it? In my view that is greedy, selfish, and illogical.

Undecidedterritory -- I would die for any of the Commonwealth or North American States, tis my duty as a citizen

that's why I thanked you.

the rest of you ( not rolls) have no stomach. You can't answer a yes or no question. why? because you are liberals. they don't ever do that ( mostly). goodnite!

hehe,

thank you.

And Good night,

never...america will die for me first...that would be a happy day...well...not all of america...just the bullying and the stupid part....such as the president...and the rednecks...and quite a bit of it ..but definitly not all...

Anarchis, it is not about choosing a country to defend- it is about defending the dirt that has made you who you are.

If you would not die for your country in war i would hope you move to Russia and see there thoughts on the matter.
I continue to feel no obligation to do so. I was never given a choice in the matter. And "love it or leave it" (which you're Russia comment was an outgrowth of) was tired and immature years ago.

I will defend American when and if it becomes something I believe to be worth defending. Until then, I will defend only people, and continue to work toward making American become something I would willingly defend.

why would you exept all the advantages of your country but also be unwilling to defend it? In my view that is greedy, selfish, and illogical.
What would you have me do? I already explained I haven't the resources to leave, even if I particularly wanted to. And please, since I imagine I'll be recieving numerous lectures/flames on the subject, refrain from calling it "my country." It's not. I have none. No value judgement on America; just a statement of fact. I do not believe in the concept of the nation-state as a proper organizational unit of society, thus I do not accept any nation-state as "my own."

Daajenai -- Without making this sound racist, which i sincerely dont want it to sound..

Of what Ethnicity? Are you a generation within your country or did your folks migrate there from some povo 3rd world country we recently bombed the Falooga out of.

Die protecting a weak nation from a big one? NO.
Die helping American conquer the world? In a heartbeat.

In a heartbeat, Ill join ya m8.

But to win with the big one sometimes you got to help the little ones. They ain't in Iraq for any other reason then Global strategizisng. The next war cometh and when it does, we need all the key positions to win.

Daajenai -- Without making this sound racist, which i sincerely dont want it to sound..

Of what Ethnicity? Are you a generation within your country or did your folks migrate there from some povo 3rd world country we recently bombed the Falooga out of.
Nope, I'm about as white as they come. And you didn't sound racist; I could see how it might have an effect upon my answer.

ok, thank you daajenai

Well seeing how I'm trying to get into a ROTC program and go active upon my commission I'd say yes.

This is hard to say now, looking back on my military experience.

I would die for my country provided it returned to and followed the doctrines which were instrumental in its creation. Namely, the Constitution (which is considered little more than a scrap of old onion-skin paper anymore, sadly).

The America we live in today is not even a shadow of the America of two centuries past in political philosophy. In fact, many of the great ideas that made us great are for all intents and purposes gone.


1. Freedom of Speech *ABRIDGED* - eg. massive censorship and Free Speech Zone INSANITY. Need I say more?

2. Right to peaceably assemble *Almost abridged...1984 deadline is behind schedule* e.g. - You now must have an army of police officers to "protect" you for any kind of mass gathering.

3. Right to Bear Arms *ABRIDGED* eg - you can own a firearm, sure...just fill out these seventy forms in triplicate and pay all sorts of fees and wait seven days for a background check and repeat the process for every firearm you wish to own and we keep your name on file, but now you can't even use it to defend yourself (at least in New Jersey, I don't know about other states) or else you are just as guilty as the person who attacked you.

And the list goes on... :mad:

Well I have a kid and if it meant she could live a "normal" life, then yes I would.

Old military family so I would do what I have to do.....

I would die to protect America itself but not her interests. Such as in Iraq.

what the .... PAXANIA! Why can't you answer the questions? GOOD LORD!

Hmm...

Absolutely, if it doesn't get taken over by the left-wingers. This should be a poll.

Sadly, I'd die for any one of you, no matter how much I disagree with you.

I'd also die to protect America, and her intrests. I don't WANT to die, but if it comes, I'd do it.

I know this sounds redneck-like, but quothe the Toby Keith:

"And I will always do my duty, no matter what the price,
I’ve counted up the cost, I know the sacrifice,
Oh, and I don’t want to die for you, but if dyin’s asked of me,
I’ll bear that cross with honor, cause freedom don’t come free."

:mp5: :sniper: :headbang:
Die protecting the US or US interests abroad... Die protecting the rights of an oil company to make more money. I think not.
Die protecting my home. my family. Yes but Not 2,000 miles away in some foriegn country. If the greater common good of the world in threatened yes like in WW 2 Hitler had to be stopped. Hussien another Hitler.. laughably not. Links to AlQueda none.. Bin Laden would have considered Saddam and his ilk to be Infidels to the Muyslim and Islamic religions. Bin Laden sought and recieved refuge with the Taliban because their religious ideals matched.
In the late 1980's Iran and Iraq wee in a stalemate of a war.. heavy fighting. Iran was at the time not being enthustiatisally supported by the US remember the Ayatollah Khomeni... 1978-1980.. expulsion and capture of Americans in Tehran. The US and Russia at that time helped supply Iraq with some of the weapons of war they needed.America was supporting Isreal within the region more but don't think for a minute there wasn't some support being given. In 1991 when saddam decided to invade Kuwait .. you remember the first Gulf war. George Bush senior President at that time stopped the invasion of Iraq at the Iraqi border to kuwait after they had driven the Iraqi forces from Kuwait. In Sept 2001 after 9/11 the US targeted the Taliban and Afganistan who was harbouring (and still is) Osama Bin Laden. Some how Iraq got twisted into this discussion. Junior G. Bush is just following Senior G. Bush's lead from 10 years earlier. Next thing we know US Soldiers are in "harms way" Why?Not to protect American values and people but to oust a terrible regime.. isn't that taking the stopping terrorism to a different level. The Spin job they handed to the world was one that finally is showing cracks. All I can say is Go Kerry Go in 2004 He is an actual War hero served his time.. never ran away. He will not put American soldiers in "harms way" to protect corporate values and corporate greed. He is far more concerned with Americans lives than Mr. Bush will ever be.
Die protecting my family my country, myfriend my way of life.... Hell yes. Die protecting an oil companies profits in a far off country.. don't bet my our your life on it. Die in an unjust occupation of a foriegn country... hell no.

[QUOTE=Valderixia]Burn me at the steak if it means that America, and the world can be free!
[QUOTE]

Somehow this sounds like a real American ....
How come that so many Americans see their own country as 'the world'?

If you fight for America, the country you're fighting against ain't free at all ...

well here is my full fledged opinion in truth...
...America, our country, is what we are, we make America what it is, and America is trying to make the world better, to sacrifice our lives for America would mean sacrificing our lives for the world. America is our nation, where we live, we should take great pride in it, but many times that pride is misunderstood, and America is dissowned by us, we should all be ready to die for our country, because to die for our country would be to die for a part of us, and a part of million's of others...
...so yes I would die for America

*throws up*

If they fought for freedom in the country ...
They fight for OIL, for possession of more land.
What will happen (already happens) in e.g. Iraq, is that American multinationals will earn again MORE money, by rebuilding the country that was destroyed by their own ...
yuck