NationStates Jolt Archive


Why euthanasia,eugenics and selecitve killing is a good thing.

Peasant peons
03-09-2004, 20:17
Evidence, reasoning and support:

The paradise club threads.

Bush/kerry threads.


The world would be far a much better place, if you were allowed to kill off certain people.

Death squads and such, they rea;;y have a bad name. But when you have a garden you tend it too keep it good and healthy. The state of humanity in the world today really could do with some pro active pruning.

Cleansing away what is decaying and not needed. Removing the excess mass, more sleek slim lined humanity would be a much better thing.

Really some people are totally gone allready in the head with no hope of a chance of recover or redemption. Euthanising them is obvious the solution for a better humanity over all.

Some may say that such a course of action is a tad overly harsh, but really, no where is a right to live granted. More do we really want to have the rights for people to be moronic brain dead weights anchoring down the advancement of society.


When you think about it Subjectively and rationally. Killing off certain people and groups would be a great thing.
Kellogs Special K
03-09-2004, 20:19
:rolleyes: I hope your not being sirious
TheGreatChinesePeople
03-09-2004, 20:20
I agree. You're first.
Kellogs Special K
03-09-2004, 20:26
Lol
Peasant peons
03-09-2004, 20:28
:rolleyes: I hope your not being sirious


Could't be more serious.

Oh how I dream to live in a country with legalised heavy weaponary.
Spookistan and Jakalah
03-09-2004, 20:30
I think the first to go should be those with poor spelling.
Kellogs Special K
03-09-2004, 20:31
yeh dem idiats
Kellogs Special K
03-09-2004, 20:34
Im guesing your also a rascist from the Groups remark
Also kill does idiots that use the wrong form of you're
Aust
03-09-2004, 20:35
I think the first to go should be those with poor spelling.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
But then you'd have to kill me and all the other dislaxics. *Looks sadly at Spookistan and Jakalah*
Ashmoria
03-09-2004, 20:36
Could't be more serious.

Oh how I dream to live in a country with legalised heavy weaponary.

so what makes you think youll be the one holding the gun instead of the one lying in the street with blood pooling up around you?
Spookistan and Jakalah
03-09-2004, 20:38
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
But then you'd have to kill me and all the other dislaxics. *Looks sadly at Spookistan and Jakalah*

Uhh...

You'll go to a better place...
Kellogs Special K
03-09-2004, 20:40
no no he wont be lying on a street rocket launchers will be legal :eek:
Peasant peons
03-09-2004, 20:41
so what makes you think youll be the one holding the gun instead of the one lying in the street with blood pooling up around you?


The survival of the fittest aspect would be entertaining. Would get to take at least some of the fuckwits out first though, So its a win, maybe die still angry but at least with a smile to go with it.

The whole right to life aspect is bollocks, some people really really do not deserve to, and it is sicken that people call you unkind and insane for having such a POV.

My justification for culling comes for a position of compassion for humanity as a whole, for the greater good we need to cleave out the un needed.
Kellogs Special K
03-09-2004, 20:45
Ok why dont you all of you that agree with this have a big meeting you know all in the one place like the middle of the desert. (*goes to prepares the nuke*)
Troon
03-09-2004, 20:54
I am a strong believer in the need for a "breeding license".

I read an Asimov article once, in response to an editorial or some such on "The Rampaging Morons". Seemingly, the editorial pointed out that as the world gets more over-populated, smart people will have fewer and fewer kids, while morons will have as many as they can. Hence, the world will eventually be over-run with idiots.

Of course, this assumes that ignorance breeds ignorance. Asimov (and another chap, I've forgotten his name) discussed various ways on how to implement a effective breeding enforcements.
Aust
03-09-2004, 20:56
Uhh...

You'll go to a better place...

I don't balive in god though.
The Sword and Sheild
03-09-2004, 20:56
I am a strong believer in the need for a "breeding license".

I read an Asimov article once, in response to an editorial or some such on "The Rampaging Morons". Seemingly, the editorial pointed out that as the world gets more over-populated, smart people will have fewer and fewer kids, while morons will have as many as they can. Hence, the world will eventually be over-run with idiots.

Of course, this assumes that ignorance breeds ignorance. Asimov (and another chap, I've forgotten his name) discussed various ways on how to implement a effective breeding enforcements.

That would make sense, if it held true that smart people have smart kids, and morons have morons, but the vast majority of people I know with smart parents are complete morons, and while large number of morons have morons, there are morons who have smart kids.
Spookistan and Jakalah
03-09-2004, 20:57
I am a strong believer in the need for a "breeding license".

I read an Asimov article once, in response to an editorial or some such on "The Rampaging Morons". Seemingly, the editorial pointed out that as the world gets more over-populated, smart people will have fewer and fewer kids, while morons will have as many as they can. Hence, the world will eventually be over-run with idiots.

Of course, this assumes that ignorance breeds ignorance. Asimov (and another chap, I've forgotten his name) discussed various ways on how to implement a effective breeding enforcements.

Asimov's also assuming that he'll make the grade. Unfortunately, when the great cull comes, only the top ten smartest men and the top ten smartest women on earth will be allowed to live, which means that (were he alive), he'd be headed to the gas chambers with the rest of us.
Pudding Pies
03-09-2004, 20:59
The only way any of this makes sense is if you kill 98% of the human population. That'll rid the world of the worst filth (I'm in the other 2% of course and deserve to stay ;) , after all, who came up with the idea?).
Troon
03-09-2004, 21:04
That would make sense, if it held true that smart people have smart kids, and morons have morons, but the vast majority of people I know with smart parents are complete morons, and while large number of morons have morons, there are morons who have smart kids.

Yes, I realise this. We must simply hope that these smart parents would fail the breeding test; for whatever reason.

"Against stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain"
Troon
03-09-2004, 21:07
Asimov's also assuming that he'll make the grade. Unfortunately, when the great cull comes, only the top ten smartest men and the top ten smartest women on earth will be allowed to live, which means that (were he alive), he'd be headed to the gas chambers with the rest of us.

Perhaps; perhaps he simply wants it for the good of humanity. Why are we only going to have 20 people? And when did I suggest gassing them? I simply want to stop them breeding!

Besides, I don't want to prevent everyone who can't do calculus (for example) to be neutered-just those who clearly can't bring up decent, civilized human beings (within reason).
THE LOST PLANET
03-09-2004, 21:07
Evidence, reasoning and support:

The paradise club threads.

Bush/kerry threads.


The world would be far a much better place, if you were allowed to kill off certain people.

Death squads and such, they rea;;y have a bad name. But when you have a garden you tend it too keep it good and healthy. The state of humanity in the world today really could do with some pro active pruning.

Cleansing away what is decaying and not needed. Removing the excess mass, more sleek slim lined humanity would be a much better thing.

Really some people are totally gone allready in the head with no hope of a chance of recover or redemption. Euthanising them is obvious the solution for a better humanity over all.

Some may say that such a course of action is a tad overly harsh, but really, no where is a right to live granted. More do we really want to have the rights for people to be moronic brain dead weights anchoring down the advancement of society.


When you think about it Subjectively and rationally. Killing off certain people and groups would be a great thing.By God you're right! As a person of above average intelligence I think I'll take it upon myself to decide who these lowlifes that need 'weeding' out are.

Peasant Peons, you're first. Up against the wall scum.




Does that illustrate graphicly enough the inherant problem with that sort of thinking PP?
Ashmoria
03-09-2004, 21:14
The survival of the fittest aspect would be entertaining. Would get to take at least some of the fuckwits out first though, So its a win, maybe die still angry but at least with a smile to go with it.

The whole right to life aspect is bollocks, some people really really do not deserve to, and it is sicken that people call you unkind and insane for having such a POV.

My justification for culling comes for a position of compassion for humanity as a whole, for the greater good we need to cleave out the un needed.
hmmmm if it would result in the elimination of people like you......

*ouch my head* is that some kind of paradox?
InfiniteEmpire
03-09-2004, 21:46
killing people is wrong :sniper: make love not war :fluffle: :mp5:
Superpower07
03-09-2004, 21:50
Peasant Peons, I know how you feel, however I don't think killing off all the stupid ppl would be such a good idea. . . we'd have nobody to make fun of afterwards!
Nova Hohenzollerndom
03-09-2004, 21:59
OK. Let us start with something that is true: there is no debate to be had. Euthanasia is wrong. Let us go into some explanation. There are two main reasons for euthanasia: the person is a burden to society or the person has a poor quality of life. By the way, these are the two main reasons for abortion. let us call in the principle of double-effect. Murdering someone is wrong, there is no exception to the rule. According to the principle of double effect, the good, which is in this case the betterment of society cannot be the result of an evil, which in this case is the murder of a human being. This also plays into the approved moral principle that the Ends do not justify the means. Also, no one put someone out of their misery except God. If you have something to say, I have more to say.
Druthulhu
03-09-2004, 22:01
Evidence, reasoning and support:

The paradise club threads.

Bush/kerry threads.


The world would be far a much better place, if you were allowed to kill off certain people.

Death squads and such, they rea;;y have a bad name. But when you have a garden you tend it too keep it good and healthy. The state of humanity in the world today really could do with some pro active pruning.

Cleansing away what is decaying and not needed. Removing the excess mass, more sleek slim lined humanity would be a much better thing.

Really some people are totally gone allready in the head with no hope of a chance of recover or redemption. Euthanising them is obvious the solution for a better humanity over all.

Some may say that such a course of action is a tad overly harsh, but really, no where is a right to live granted. More do we really want to have the rights for people to be moronic brain dead weights anchoring down the advancement of society.


When you think about it Subjectively and rationally. Killing off certain people and groups would be a great thing.

Great idea. Start with yourself.
Comandante
03-09-2004, 22:02
I'm all for a superior bunch of humans, but the problem is, those who are intelligent are also prone to mental instability, emotional problems, etc. We have to find some kind of a balance.

What I like though, is giving certain people the right to impregnate others. Everyone can have sex (yay!) but only certain people can go off of the mandatory contraceptives! That is for the benefit of everyone! That way, nasty, annoying little monsters aren't running around in every house, and the world will still have its best and brightest to breed! Hooray! I'll make preparations now!

*runs to grab scissors, walks up to a football player on his campus*
Peasant peons
03-09-2004, 22:26
[QUOTE=Nova Hohenzollerndom]. Murdering someone is wrong, there is no exception to the rule. /QUOTE]


Why is it wrong?

Where is this rule written that it is wrong?


You seem to be taking a subjective view point and exclaiming it to be the truth. That is not the case.
Subterfuges
04-09-2004, 00:35
I got an idea. When you enact that law, I'll run off into the wilderness armed with an assault rifle. I'll live off the land, and when you finish killing off all the supposedly unsmart people. Your smarta$$es will die for lack of food, for they only live lives of comfort. One is reminded of Tom Clancy's Rainbow six. You think someone is advanced in society when all he lives off of is his knowledge of political science? What supports him? The regular John Does Duh Stick the guy with political science in the middle of a wilderness what happens? He's dead in three days. You could make slaves of certain people. Once you guys get used to killing defenseless people you will have no chance to survive against someone who knows how to kill 5 heavily armed tanks. Just because someone has a degree in political science doesn't mean that he knows how to raise his own kids. I doubt someone who just had sex with every woman he saw would know how to raise his son's and daughter's well.
The Pumpkin Scarecrows
04-09-2004, 01:09
true to that. even though the stupid part of the population can be annoying, i would still need someone to drive my cab, cook my food, ask me what floor i would like to go, etc...