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if you think about it, god is one crafty dude. and you know, what with that infinite wisdom and all, maybe he could percieve humanity not being quite ready for the whole truth of religion and exsistence and what not, just perhaps?

lets use the example of children and there parents, kid asks a question he wouldn't understand the answer to, so his mom tells him something that he would understand to stand in for knowledge until he can understand the truth.

Very Bias poll:
a. of course
b. no! it's the inspired word of god and no errors are made!
c. humans make mistakes
d. leave me alone, i'm sleepy

You need more options:
1. Its Inspired by God, and is the word of God as long as translated correctly.


you think about it, god is one crafty dude. and you know, what with that infinite wisdom and all, maybe he could percieve humanity not being quite ready for the whole truth of religion and exsistence and what not, just perhaps?

lets use the example of children and there parents, kid asks a question he wouldn't understand the answer to, so his mom tells him something that he would understand to stand in for knowledge until he can understand the truth.

Kid asks a question he wouldn't understand answer for? Then its not moms fault he didn't understand...
But you get basic idea, which was reason why Moses was so stiff they wouldn't understand yet.
And then Christ came to reveil rest of truth because he thought they were ready.

Kid should know in James you can ask of God, bvut remember to ask exactly what you want to know.
Don't be wishy washy(unsure, like a agnostic I guess) and don't ask without even believing in him. You have to have faith to gain more. You will slowly gain precept upon precept, perfection upon perfection. Till you gain knowledge.
Having knowledge and faith at same time if what Jesus and God himself have.

They aren't mutally exclusive but you have to have faith first in order to gain true knowledge of it.

could you go back over you're post and spell check it or something, i'm not entirely sure what you said.

oh i think this ought to be discussed, come on people

Which bible, or version thereof?

huh?

1.) Most likely the Christians you refer to aren't using a copy of the original manuscript in it's original language and they are not a person from the temporal and cultural context in which the text was written, so any reading done by them would be an interpretation, and a horribly inaccurate one at that.

2.) However, many individuals may find that the text or parts of it are touching to them and may provide guidance.

I have come to the conclusion that too many people interpret the Bible word for word - they have forgotten Jesus's overall message of love and forgiveness.

Actually, the Bible wasn't written/made by Christ himself; it was compiled at the Council of Nicea - and through all the translations something was bound to be messed up, so Christ's message comes off wrong.

And I also believe that the Dead Sea Scrolls could be true, as well as the possibility that Jesus was indeed married to Mary Magdelene

I have come to the conclusion that too many people interpret the Bible word for word - they have forgotten Jesus's overall message of love and forgiveness.

Actually, the Bible wasn't written/made by Christ himself; it was compiled at the Council of Nicea - and through all the translations something was bound to be messed up, so Christ's message comes off wrong.

And I also believe that the Dead Sea Scrolls could be true, as well as the possibility that Jesus was indeed married to Mary Magdelene
No Jesus was married to Mathra and her Mary, the one who had the brother Lazurrus. See that is why people think Magdelene is married because she has same first name.
Council of Nincae didn't do a thing to Bible: it was changed by King James and others. The council made the Nincae Cree, this was a attemot to reconcile the different beliefs they had. It ended up making God not exist as he did.
He had no feelings, fingers, head, brain, body, eyes(he is blind apparently), no hears(deaf?), mute (no mouth), and more.
they basically talked him out of existance. It no wonder there were Crusades.
they stopped believing in Heavenly Father and this other unknown being they believed in.
He can't answer with no mouth thus the Pope said what ever he wanted at that point.
However, a great and wondseful day happened! the Great apostrophy had ended! America was created, and after a while its religious freedoms created a land where one could worship more freely than any other place.(didn't last forever but eh)
The spirit of Elias, who would turn the fathers to the children and the children to the fathers(see Old Testament), has started his work in the 1800's. He has chosen the Temple as the means to do this. Since the LDS church is only one willing to make temples they will be doing the work for the rest of us.

huh?

There are more than one version of the Bible. The King James is only one... and each one has slightly different language. This may seem minor until you look at the passages and see that the word choice can change the meaning of the passage, depending on which bible you use.

I think the Greek is closest but I'm not sure.

if you think about it, god is one crafty dude. and you know, what with that infinite wisdom and all, maybe he could percieve humanity not being quite ready for the whole truth of religion and exsistence and what not, just perhaps?

lets use the example of children and there parents, kid asks a question he wouldn't understand the answer to, so his mom tells him something that he would understand to stand in for knowledge until he can understand the truth.

I've thought of this myself, and I do think many things were simplified or left for us to discover and interpret on our own.

Plus, even with all the divine inspiration in the world, we human beings are GOING to make mistakes, and this does call for interpreting and contemplation. This is part of why when I go to read a passage, I try to read it in many interpretations--including one in my second language, to try to get as comprehensive a picture of it as possible. I know I'm still going to get an imperfect grasp of it, but I feel like it's something I ought to do.

No Jesus was married to Mathra and her Mary, the one who had the brother Lazurrus. See that is why people think Magdelene is married because she has same first name.
Council of Nincae didn't do a thing to Bible: it was changed by King James and others. The council made the Nincae Cree, this was a attemot to reconcile the different beliefs they had. It ended up making God not exist as he did.
He had no feelings, fingers, head, brain, body, eyes(he is blind apparently), no hears(deaf?), mute (no mouth), and more.
they basically talked him out of existance. It no wonder there were Crusades.
they stopped believing in Heavenly Father and this other unknown being they believed in.
He can't answer with no mouth thus the Pope said what ever he wanted at that point.
However, a great and wondseful day happened! the Great apostrophy had ended! America was created, and after a while its religious freedoms created a land where one could worship more freely than any other place.(didn't last forever but eh)
The spirit of Elias, who would turn the fathers to the children and the children to the fathers(see Old Testament), has started his work in the 1800's. He has chosen the Temple as the means to do this. Since the LDS church is only one willing to make temples they will be doing the work for the rest of us.

I'm sorry, I REALLY got lost here... to whom was Jesus allegedly married? And what do you mean, God was talked out of existance?
What do you mean about America and religious freedom?

The only thing I got out of that is that you're with the Church of Latter Day Saints -- and pretty much, from what I understand, they believe that any other Christian sect is in fact, not Christian -- and I have to disagree with that pretty strongly.

I'm sorry, I REALLY got lost here... to whom was Jesus allegedly married? And what do you mean, God was talked out of existance?
What do you mean about America and religious freedom?

The only thing I got out of that is that you're with the Church of Latter Day Saints -- and pretty much, from what I understand, they believe that any other Christian sect is in fact, not Christian -- and I have to disagree with that pretty strongly.
Dude, a low attention span. No offense but seriously that is how you sounded.
Jesus was married to Mary and Martha, the one whose brother was raised back to life by Jesus. At least its most consistent with possible history. I think it was only one but it could be both.
They were so caught up in agreeign with each other about doctrine that they forgot to ask God if he even was like that. If you see what they described him as... you see he pretty much doesn't exist to them.
America was the only placxe safe for religious freedom. If God revealed anything new back then Inquisition would of destroyed it. Crusades would be ditto.
America was needed and neccessary for the next revelation.(could be spelled wrong). No where else up to 1800's had enough religious freedom. At this time England had a State religion as did many other countries.
Go on, or stop? I can continue but I don't want to bog this thread down.