Krizzi_Imperia
02-09-2004, 12:41
Now, before I begin I like to say that I define myself as a leftwing liberal, but I'm trying to take a neutral stand in this matter. (And plz ecxuse my english spelling)
How many times have I been called a "bloddy communist"? How many time have I been called a "hippie treehugger" or a "whining protestor that should get a real job". Its like some people just wont listen to me because they think I'm one of those "whining liberal hippie". Its not about topics anymore, is it? Its just about wich group I belong to and how many are in my group.
How many times have I called someone "a bloddy facist"? How many time have I called someone "a Gun loving nutter". How many times have I just ignored what someone says because I think he is a "A Gun-nuts conservative redneck, thats should stop beating his wife and step into the modern ages".
We have the ongoing discussion on TV about liberal vs. Conservative views and the same old topics "gay marriage", "abortions", "big buissness" and "privatisation". However we never get to a conclution like Socrates did with his subjects. We just keep on going, calling each other names and generalize about eachothers way of thought. And sometimes it doesnt matter how valid point the opponents make, you just have to be against it, because of your almost-holy dedication to the "liberal" or the "conservative" group.
We view politics as black'n'white and in the end its not about the topic, its about the image. Who are cooler? Conservative buissness men or Liberal hippies? An example of this fight over image is how suddenly the presidents family step forth in the Bush campaign, or how Kerry is pictured as a veteran. Nothing to do with topics as such. Perhaps tells you a litle about the personality, but a few things about the politics.
Just a example of how it really doesn't matter. Who would you rather choose? A man born in a toilet at a ball and has some alcohol problems, litle and fat, or a man who is usually clean, atended art school and always stayed sober?
Well, the one is Winstone, the other is Hitler
Lets stop talking about the image of the groups and be topical, here and everywhere else we go to talk about politics. Lets stop and think about our "political belives".
Hope u get my point... this text is a bit messy :p
How many times have I been called a "bloddy communist"? How many time have I been called a "hippie treehugger" or a "whining protestor that should get a real job". Its like some people just wont listen to me because they think I'm one of those "whining liberal hippie". Its not about topics anymore, is it? Its just about wich group I belong to and how many are in my group.
How many times have I called someone "a bloddy facist"? How many time have I called someone "a Gun loving nutter". How many times have I just ignored what someone says because I think he is a "A Gun-nuts conservative redneck, thats should stop beating his wife and step into the modern ages".
We have the ongoing discussion on TV about liberal vs. Conservative views and the same old topics "gay marriage", "abortions", "big buissness" and "privatisation". However we never get to a conclution like Socrates did with his subjects. We just keep on going, calling each other names and generalize about eachothers way of thought. And sometimes it doesnt matter how valid point the opponents make, you just have to be against it, because of your almost-holy dedication to the "liberal" or the "conservative" group.
We view politics as black'n'white and in the end its not about the topic, its about the image. Who are cooler? Conservative buissness men or Liberal hippies? An example of this fight over image is how suddenly the presidents family step forth in the Bush campaign, or how Kerry is pictured as a veteran. Nothing to do with topics as such. Perhaps tells you a litle about the personality, but a few things about the politics.
Just a example of how it really doesn't matter. Who would you rather choose? A man born in a toilet at a ball and has some alcohol problems, litle and fat, or a man who is usually clean, atended art school and always stayed sober?
Well, the one is Winstone, the other is Hitler
Lets stop talking about the image of the groups and be topical, here and everywhere else we go to talk about politics. Lets stop and think about our "political belives".
Hope u get my point... this text is a bit messy :p