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Last year I had to read Rumble Fish, one of the stupidest books on the face of the planet, in my opinion, and not even close to being a high enough level for 7th graders. We also had to read Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry which is an okay book, but I had read it in class in the 5th grade, so I already knew what happened. So instead, I got to read the boring sequel Let the Circle Be Unbroken. This year we get to read Johnny Tremain a book I also read in the 5th grade for class, that bored me to death. Why do we have to read such spectaculary awful books for school? And why do teachers have to suck all of the fun out of reading with all of their reading comprehension b.s.?

Sorry, I just had to get that all out.

you're a very young person, it's possible I'd beat on you if I saw you (for no reason of course)

you're a very young person, it's possible I'd beat on you if I saw you (for no reason of course)

Huh?

Once you read The Shoemaker and the Tea Party, you will know the meaning of a bad book

Lol we read a GREAT book 2 years ago, and a totally shitty book last year, and I have no idea for this upcoming year (our major novel study that is)

Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Amazing book!)

Brave New World (Total crap)

Once you meet the Catcher and the Rye, You'll be happy.

Crap books I had to read from grade 8-OAC:
- The Giver
- Cue for Treason
- To Kill a Mocking Bird
- Fifth Business
- Stone Angel
- Sherlock Holmes
- Romeo and Juliet

Decent books they assigned to us from grade 8-OAC:
- Chrysalids
- The Catcher in the Rye
- Lord of the Flies
- Hamlet
- MacBeth

Brave New World (Total crap)

You're joking, right?

hey, a fellow ontarian.

i had to read a stone angel. worst piece of shit i have ever had the misfortune of reading. though i didn't have to read most of the other books you deemed crap...

It just amazes me how many teachers are surprised that kids don't like to read. Many kids only read the books that are assigned in class so they get a horrible impression of what books are like. They think that all of them suck because we never read anything good in school. I can't remember reading an assigned book in school that I actually enjoyed. I still don't think they could have picked a book much worse than "Rumble Fish" for us to read.

hey, a fellow ontarian.

i had to read a stone angel. worst piece of shit i have ever had the misfortune of reading. though i didn't have to read most of the other books you deemed crap...
You're lucky! I guess you didn't go to school in Ottawa then because most of those crap books were assigned to those who went to school there.

When you're in your senior year you get to read the good stuff. (Brave New World, The Screwtape Letters, Mere Chrisitanity, The Grapes of Wrath, etc.)

Most books are ok, they vary. I get tired of Shakespear. I really don't like reading them out loud in class, cause its too slow.

Catcher in the Rye was ok. Only good thing was the teacher read out loud the use of language in it.

Oh, and I almost forgot, this year I will have the misfortune of reading another book by S.E. Hinton (the author of Rumble Fish) called The Outsiders. That will be real fun. *gags*

Oh, and I almost forgot, this year I will have the misfortune of reading another book by S.E. Hinton (the author of Rumble Fish) called The Outsiders. That will be real fun. *gags*

I remember reading that. How bad can it be with characters with names like Ponyboy? Oh wait...

I remember reading that. How bad can it be with characters with names like Ponyboy? Oh wait...

In Rumble Fish you never even new what certain characters' real names were. One guy was called Motorcycle Boy throughout the entire book.

yeah books at school suck sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad

the best book we read at school was instituted after i left hte grade and it was Animal Farm. the rest suck

WORST. BOOK. EVER. - Sense and Sensibility

also bad books: To Kill a Mockingbird, The Great Gatsby, Romeo and Juliet

Unvanquished was ok, if you could keep yourself awake enough after the first 100 or so pages, cuz after like chapter 4 i had no idea what was going on. some people died, other people died, some girl went crazy and it stopped

Their Eyes Were Watching God was ok, after you got through the 200 pages of filler lead up story and too the actual good shit.


Of Mice and Men, Macbeth, Hamlet, A Raisin in the Sun were all ok

also bad books: To Kill a Mockingbird, The Great Gatsby, Romeo and Juliet



I should burn you alive with flames.

The Great Gatsby was pretty bad. I also disliked the Scarlett Letter, though it got much better as it went along.

I personally preferred 1984 to Brave New World. Catcher in the Rye was a great book because Holden reminded me so much of myself.

I remember reading that. How bad can it be with characters with names like Ponyboy? Oh wait...
i trhink i read through some of the outsiders, you would think that was the best book on the planet if you went to my school

WORST. BOOK. EVER. - Sense and Sensibility

No way. The worst book ever is probably A Wrinkle In Time. I had to read it last year, and I was considering killing myself to avoid reading it.

The Great Gatsby was pretty bad. I also disliked the Scarlett Letter, though it got much better as it went along.

I personally preferred 1984 to Brave New World. Catcher in the Rye was a great book because Holden reminded me so much of myself.
yeah teh scarlett letter was kinda shitty, the movie was almost funny, the kid was SCARY, little demon girl.

crucible was ok, not that graet though, the movie was funny, specially the nudity we had one guy in our class whenever there was nudity or something sexual he would pause the thing or rewind it and play it back

I like Julius Caeser and Romeo and Juliet.

Also, how is Animal Farm? What's it about? Is it good? Bad? It's the book I need to read this year...

I like Julius Caeser and Romeo and Juliet.

Also, how is Animal Farm? What's it about? Is it good? Bad? It's the book I need to read this year...

Good book, need to know about the October Revolution and the aftermath to fully understand though.

I should burn you alive with flames.

We shall, with huge flames kindled by all the real bad literature...like the booklets out of rap CDs.

I do think they should find some better books for the earlier years..maybe some C.S. Lewis or something..

No way. The worst book ever is probably A Wrinkle In Time. I had to read it last year, and I was considering killing myself to avoid reading it.


I thought that book was pretty good, probably the worst book I have ever *tried* to finish was Heidi. That book sucks the very soul out of you, all happiness just kind of disappears and you feel really cold, that book has the same effect on a person as dementors.

No way. The worst book ever is probably A Wrinkle In Time. I had to read it last year, and I was considering killing myself to avoid reading it.
have you read sense and sensibility, if you havnt you cant talk

i was LITERALLY considering poking my eyes out so i would not have to read that book after about 3 pages

I should burn you alive with flames.
What about me? I think To Kill a Mocking Bird was crap, as were Romeo and Juliet, The Stone Angel... etc...

The outsiders was really shitty, but other than that I cant think of bad books I've read other than a XTML manual that made no sense whatsoever.

What about me? I think To Kill a Mocking Bird was crap, as were Romeo and Juliet, The Stone Angel... etc...

You should be launched out of a cannon into a brick wall. ; )

Good book, need to know about the October Revolution and the aftermath to fully understand though.

Well thank the Lord I watch the History Channel with undying discipline. Agh, here's a random rant:

It pisses me off that the kids in my class can't read simple words like Nikolai. Plus, they don't know the meaning of pillage. How hard is it to learn the meaning of pillage?! It's easy! Bah! I'm surrounded by fools! Eh, they're still my friends though...[/rant]

Wow. I actually enjoyed a lot of the books you people hate. (Sherlock Holmes, for instance, but it'd take too long to go through the whole list.)

One of my english teachers explained it really well to us why we have to read many hateful books. Throughout our lives, people are going to refer to those books when talking about all sorts of stuff, and you really look like an idiot if you don't know what they mean.

Also, i'm constantly surprised at how much people judge a book based on peer pressure. Somebody will say the book was a bit dull, and people will go around and around, exaggerating how bad it was each time, until the book represents all that is wrong with the world. Sometimes I just want to grab people by the shoulders and tell them to make up their own opinions, damnit.

Throughout our lives, people are going to refer to those books when talking about all sorts of stuff, and you really look like an idiot if you don't know what they mean.

Is that a fact? I get pissed when I wear my 42 shirt and people dont know what the fuck it means and think im a racist.
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Wow. I actually enjoyed a lot of the books you people hate. (Sherlock Holmes, for instance, but it'd take too long to go through the whole list.)

One of my english teachers explained it really well to us why we have to read many hateful books. Throughout our lives, people are going to refer to those books when talking about all sorts of stuff, and you really look like an idiot if you don't know what they mean.

Also, i'm constantly surprised at how much people judge a book based on peer pressure. Somebody will say the book was a bit dull, and people will go around and around, exaggerating how bad it was each time, until the book represents all that is wrong with the world. Sometimes I just want to grab people by the shoulders and tell them to make up their own opinions, damnit.
your teacher is LYING to you, the ONLY place you will use anything above practical english in a job is if you become a ENGLISH TEACHER

I agree with AT... like, I like Catcher in the Rye and my friends hated it... I didn't let them influence me in high school.

your teacher is LYING to you, the ONLY place you will use anything above practical english in a job is if you become a ENGLISH TEACHER

It's true ya know.

People just talk about the next 50 Cent record, or why Barbara broke up with Mike.

Bah, pop culture...

Incidentally, we were talking about the 42 reference today in Metaphysics class.

There were a few books I despised in high school or early college. A Tale of Two Cities and just about anything by Faulkner or one of the Bronte sisters ranked high on that list. A lot of C.S. Lewis started off high and then dropped really low once I gained an appreciation for subtlety (Lewis, of course, being the literary equivalent of a sledgehammer in the nads on that count) in my allegory.

A lot of the other books, however, I loved. Mark Twain is hysterical (The Diary of Adam and Eve is absolutely side-splitting), Kafka's Metamorphosis is first-rate, as is most of Earnest Hemingway, J.R.R. Tolkein, all of Shakespeare, Emily Dickenson, Edgar Allen Poe, Walt Whitman, Arthur Conan Doyle, and more recent writers like John Updike. All in all, I'd honestly say that I managed to get a pretty solid literary background. Not bad when you consider it was free.

Metaphysics? Where do you go to school pray tell? MIT?

Look folks--for all of you bitching and whinging about having to read To Kill a Mockingbird (great book), or Brave New World (also a great book, especially when you realize how old it is), I have two words for you.

Silas Marner

Oh, and anything by Jane Austen. I had to read another of her books for a graduate school class a year and a half ago and wanted to slit my wrists.

There were a few books I despised in high school or early college. A Tale of Two Cities and just about anything by Faulkner or one of the Bronte sisters ranked high on that list.

Faulkner takes a certain maturity to appreciate (if I don't sound like a pompous git saying that I never will) - I'm not implying that you are immature or anything, just that you may have read it too early to really latch on to it.


Personally it wasn't the actual texts that we studied in English Literature that annoyed me, but instead the picking over of the corpse at such a deathly pace.

I agree somewhat, I have read some good books and some crappy books. I don't like reading Shakespeare because it seems to me it was meant to be watched, not read unless you are in a play. We read Fharenheit 451 which is ok, but I would have preferred 1984. I think we should read Ender's Game, and some Tolkein. Heh heh...

Look folks--for all of you bitching and whinging about having to read To Kill a Mockingbird (great book), or Brave New World (also a great book, especially when you realize how old it is), I have two words for you.

Silas Marner

Oh, and anything by Jane Austen. I had to read another of her books for a graduate school class a year and a half ago and wanted to slit my wrists.
yeah im going to jump from the highest building in campus if i have to read anything by the bronte sisters in college

It might be that. He more or less reminded me of one of boring, long-winded aunts you're afraid to sit next to at family gatherings. The ones who keep going on and on about their cats while you are trying to find an opening to make your exit to the turkey platter. If I had the time, I could try him again.

That being said, even Silas Marner can't compete with some of the philosophy texts I've had to slog through. Read a book by John McDowell or Immanuel Kant, and I promise you, even Wuthering Heights will read like Harry Potter by comparison.

These books are alot more than you give them credit for. As far as the language used, you are well able for them but as far as the greater concepts and ideas relevant to the time and the history and social comentary I think you are way too young. Understanding the holistic view of these books will benefit you in many areas of your life, and not just for English teachers.

Faulkner takes a certain maturity to appreciate (if I don't sound like a pompous git saying that I never will) - I'm not implying that you are immature or anything, just that you may have read it too early to really latch on to it.


Personally it wasn't the actual texts that we studied in English Literature that annoyed me, but instead the picking over of the corpse at such a deathly pace.It's not so much maturity that you need for Faulkner--it's an appreciation for what he's doing and the patience to be able to handle those huge-ass sentences he constructed that you need. I happen to like Faulkner but I'm the first to admit that, like Southern Comfort, he's an acquired taste that not everyone is going to share.

It also helps if you're southern, cuz, you know, that might be your grandmama in the story somewhere. :D

Romero and Juliet is awesome and funny if you really understand it. There's a reason high schoolers read it-though sadly, most don't get it.

Brief synapsis: Two teenagers "fall in love." Or at least, they say they're in love. We all know that they really just wanna fuck each other. But to them, they're "in love." After acting rediculously stupid for a bit, they both die. Because they're idiots. And because they twisted "love" aroud to mean "I think he/she is hot." And now they're dead. Hint bloody hint.



Oh, and The Giver was pretty bad, but I like it for one reason: it made Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World by Murakami sooooooo much more awesome for me.

think you got it bad try reading catch-22, its simpley retarted. It makes NO sense one so ever. Its very ironic any best sellers suck. To kill a mocking bird? i mean come on that book is so simple.

You can tell us americans are stupid by our best seller list

I remember in 6th grade especially the books sucked. I thought The Giver was ok, but that might just be because the others were so horrible. I think one was called The View from Saturday, or something, and it almost made me kill myself. Then there was this stupid one written in the 70's about these foster kids. I never had to read Brave New World in school, but I read it, and thought it was pretty good. The last really bad book I had to read was Bless Me, Ultima. Even my English teacher admitted that it was somewhat lacking. I was none too fond of Red Sky at Morning, either (I just failed to see any point to the book whatsoever). I wasn't crazy about Romeo and Juliet, but Julius Caesar was ok, if only for all the killing (I still think Shakespeare is seriously overrated).

think you got it bad try reading catch-22, its simpley retarted. It makes NO sense one so ever. Its very ironic any best sellers suck. To kill a mocking bird? i mean come on that book is so simple.

You can tell us americans are stupid by our best seller listDude--Catch-22 was a satirical masterpiece. It obviously went sailing waaaaaaaaaay over your head.

Try The Awakening by Kate Chopin. Awful awful.... only book I have ever not physically been able to complete reading... and I've had to put up with a lot.... (Ie Crime & Punishment, Lord of the Flies, The Prince, The Republic, Things Fall Apart... thoguh that one wsan't too bad.)

Anyways, yes I vote The Awakening as cereberal suicide.

It's not so much maturity that you need for Faulkner--it's an appreciation for what he's doing and the patience to be able to handle those huge-ass sentences he constructed that you need. I happen to like Faulkner but I'm the first to admit that, like Southern Comfort, he's an acquired taste that not everyone is going to share.

Yeah, I love some of Faulkner's stuff, but it certainly isn't easy going, either from a mechanical reading standpoint, or an emotional perspective.

It also helps if you're southern, cuz, you know, that might be your grandmama in the story somewhere. :D

Well, coming from a region that has remained ecconomically 'underdeveloped' and still riven by the fallout from centuries old conflicts (Northern Ireland) I also feel I have a certain empathy for some of his themes.

The Yearling! Oui! Ive read that 3 times. Once for fun, second for 4th grade and Again this year for 8th grade. If you know the ending the whole story is reeaaaaly boring. I remember thinking " Just kill the freaking deer already!!" while reading it.

Try The Awakening by Kate Chopin. Awful awful.... only book I have ever not physically been able to complete reading... and I've had to put up with a lot.... (Ie Crime & Punishment, Lord of the Flies, The Prince, The Republic, Things Fall Apart... thoguh that one wsan't too bad.)

Anyways, yes I vote The Awakening as cereberal suicide.I agree with you on The Awakening. Had to read it as an undergrad, and just wanted to bash my head into the wall while reading it. Strange thing is that I like most of Chopin's short stories, but can't stand that novel.

Man, I got to read a ton of awesome books in school :p.

Like A Modest Proposal by Swifte. Or The Importance of Being Ernest by Wilde.

Good stuff, good stuff...

We read The Princess Bride in 9th grade.

I see your envy.

I liked To kill a mockingbird. I loathed Catcher in the Rye. I didnt have any pre-disposition, but seriously, Holden WHINES way to much. I wanted him to blow his head off, and end the god-awful rants he went off into.

I got to read Alas Babylon for school. I remember thinking " Alas Babylon? What kind of a stupid name for a book is that" But its realy cool. Its about Russia Nuking America and its set right here in florida.

Take heart in the fact that if you keep taking English till you're a senior and into college the books get a whole lot better. I'm talking change your life kind of books.

Man, I got to read a ton of awesome books in school :p.

Like A Modest Proposal by Swifte. Or The Importance of Being Ernest by Wilde.

Good stuff, good stuff...

What class did you read A Modest Proposal for?

Just wait until you read the Grapes of Wrath
*Vomits*

However if you get the chance to read 1984, The Catcher in the Rye, or The Heart of Darkness they’re all good reads. Fried Green Tomatoes is also a good read.

Just wait until you read the Grapes of Wrath
*Vomits*

However if you get the chance to read 1984, The Catcher in the Rye, or The Heart of Darkness they’re all good reads. Fried Green Tomatoes is also a good read.

1984 is the single most depressing book I have ever read, especially in the modern geopolitical climate.

The worse book I've ever read was for my ethics class and it was called "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand (She created Emotivism which means people only doing something to benefit themselves.)

In 11th grade, my literature teacher had us read Harry Potter. Parents really got angry with the fact that we weren't reading things such as Macbeth, or Hamlet. Then the religion crap got into it; Apperantly some parents didn't like the fact that their children were reading "Witchcraft". My opinion- We were way too old for Harry Potter.

While I haven't liked books they made us read in school in the past, I've actually liked the books I've read in the past couple years. Among the books I liked were "To kill a Mockingbird", "The Outsiders", and "The Odyssy". What I really hate is when they make us annalize books. Like when they ask what the symbolism is, or asking obout the themes. I remember when we were reading "To kill a Mockingbird" our teacher told us that the rabid dog forshadowed trouble later in the story, but I never got why.

In 11th grade, my literature teacher had us read Harry Potter. Parents really got angry with the fact that we weren't reading things such as Macbeth, or Hamlet. Then the religion crap got into it; Apperantly some parents didn't like the fact that their children were reading "Witchcraft". My opinion- We were way too old for Harry Potter.

Of course, they object to Harry Potter for witchcraft and completely ignore the witches in Macbeth. That said, what 11th grade Enligsh teacher has their students read Harry Potter?

EDIT: mispelled "English..." not good.

1984 is the single most depressing book I have ever read, especially in the modern geopolitical climate.
Not when you have a student teacher who keeps saying “big brother is watching” every few minutes. And was virtually doing everything he could to spook the shit out of us. Ever see the movie version though?
*Barfs out a lung*

The worse book I've ever read was for my ethics class and it was called "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand (She created Emotivism which means people only doing something to benefit themselves.)

In 11th grade, my literature teacher had us read Harry Potter. Parents really got angry with the fact that we weren't reading things such as Macbeth, or Hamlet. Then the religion crap got into it; Apperantly some parents didn't like the fact that their children were reading "Witchcraft". My opinion- We were way too old for Harry Potter.
11th grade? Yeah--too old to be reading it for a class, anyway. When I was in 11th grade back in 198-, we were reading A Farewell to Arms, The Great Gatsby, and poetry by e. e. cummings, Ezra Pound, T. S, Eliot, Edna St. Vincent Millay (underrated, if you ask me), and all the other great modern American writers.

As far as Harry Potter is concerned, I like the books, and I have a daughter in high school now, but I'd never consider teaching them to a high school class. They're fun to read--not great literature.

your teacher is LYING to you, the ONLY place you will use anything above practical english in a job is if you become a ENGLISH TEACHER

Wrong.

If you plan on having any sort of job where you need to talk to people, then you are going to understand the references to certain books.

I agree, SE Hinton is not a great author; however, the reason people teach her is because there is the idea that many students don't want to read anyting better.

Shakespeare -- wow. There is so much that it has to do with people's motivations and dark sides, although I agree, Romeo and Juliet is pretty lightweight.

Sherlock Holmes -- well, you may find Conan-Doyle's style a bit overblown, and the language is difficult. I suggest before you chuck him altogether you try The Adventure of the Speckled Band, though.

1984 and Animal Farm are important politically; really everyone should read them in order to see what life could be like if our government were truly oppressive. (and background on the October Revolution IS valuable in reading Animal Farm).

What do I wish I could teach? The Lord of the Rings books... a class just on mysteries....

Of course, they object to Harry Potter for witchcraft and completely ignore the witches in Macbeth. That said, what 11th grade Enligsh teacher has their students read Harry Potter?

EDIT: mispelled "English..." not good.

Ah, but the witches in Macbeth lead the protagonist to his doom and are seen as clearly upsetting the divinely ordered relationship between the king and his subjects and are thus clearly marked out as EVIL. Thankfully I don't know enough about Harry Potter to tell whether this is a good arguement or not.

Worse books I've had to read in school....The Bean Tree's. So bad. We we're supposed to identify archetypes and reoccuring themes. The whole book is a reoccuring theme. Birds, Flowers, and mothers. The end.

I didn't like the Hunchback, either. Had to read that when i was a freshmen. Horrible. Oddyssey and the Illiad weren't great, either.


The best books I've read so far are the Chosen and Lord Of the Flies. I loved Lord of the Flies alot. I love how you can read it over and over, and you can interpret it in so many different ways. Beautiful book.

We haven't read Catcher in the Rye or To Kill a Mockingbird yet....I feel sad. I should *gasp* go check them out.

While I haven't liked books they made us read in school in the past, I've actually liked the books I've read in the past couple years. Among the books I liked were "To kill a Mockingbird", "The Outsiders", and "The Odyssy". What I really hate is when they make us annalize books. Like when they ask what the symbolism is, or asking obout the themes. I remember when we were reading "To kill a Mockingbird" our teacher told us that the rabid dog forshadowed trouble later in the story, but I never got why.

Seems most of these worst choices come from what was assigned to be read and analyzed in school. Being "forced" to read and analyze the book may very well make the reader less inclined to enjoy the book. I didn't want to read "Crime and Punishment" in high school (this was during my "slacker senior" phase) and I blazed through it not enjoying it at all. I did go back and read it later on that year and realized it was pretty good (though I'm blanking on most of the plot right now hmmm....).

alright guys my school has you all beat. we had to read Franz Kafkas Metamorphasis. a man woke up as a cockroach one day.
then we had to read
Then we had to read a book written by some pro football player on how to live our lives. i forget its name because i never made it past chapter 3. yea that was reaaaal intresting....
then we had to read a book edited by yitzhak rabin granddaughter. let me give you guys an exerpt, "I woke up at 9am today, I knew something was going to be bad today because it was cloudy outside. I had a bad feeling."
if you guys have ANY books worse then these please tell me? Id rather read War and Peace over again then read any of these books over again.

O yea we never read Huckleberry finn because it was too "racialy" charged. they gave us some other excuses for To kill a mocking bird and catcher and the rye. those books I have heard are actually good too.

I remember when we were reading "To kill a Mockingbird" our teacher told us that the rabid dog forshadowed trouble later in the story, but I never got why.

I believe the dog was a symbol for Atticus' willingness to do what needed doing, no matter how it hurt him. He was a gentle man, remember, and killing was something that seemed out of character for him at first... but it needed to be done to protect the town and to put the beast out of its misery.

Also, the rabid dog could be said to symbolize Bob Ewell, who was crazed with hatred and was killed by Boo Radley later in the book, for the good of Scout and Jem (immediately) and Maycombe (long term).

most books i ever read where for physics class and chem class, so utterly wrong. They over simplfy too much. too broad of statments like "protons and neutrons never leave the neclus" oh really? pray tell me how neculear fission works then? the one that made me barf the most was in physics tho. "time is a constant" huh? what ever happened to lorentz and time dialation, or when you go past an event horizion? man I hate text books that are erred.

On the upside, I got to do the lord of the rings and silm for my final engish project in gr12 :D

Ah, but the witches in Macbeth lead the protagonist to his doom and are seen as clearly upsetting the divinely ordered relationship between the king and his subjects and are thus clearly marked out as EVIL. Thankfully I don't know enough about Harry Potter to tell whether this is a good arguement or not.

Actually... the witches simply tell him a prophecy that he will be king. They never tell him how to accomplish this, and Macbeth's speech immediately after where he says that when he thinks of what must be done, he is afraid and disgusted... it shows he has secretly been thinking about, if not plotting, usurping the throne. If anything, the female force that "pushes" him to do it is Lady Macbeth, his "dearest partner in greatness".

Actually... the witches simply tell him a prophecy that he will be king.

Yes, but it is already made clear that the witches are a bad lot when they talk amongst themselves of luring sailors to their deaths before Macbeth comes on the scene - let me just find a quote here...


http://the-tech.mit.edu/Shakespeare/macbeth/full.html

Check their banter at the start of Act I: Scene III - I think it is fairly safe to say that it is a big red flag signaling evil and the natural order perverted.


Edit: okay, they don't actually talk about luring sailors to their deaths themselves, but they do talk about sailing in sieves, which is a perversion of the divinely ordered world.

What class did you read A Modest Proposal for?

British Literature. Best class in all of High School.

The worse book I've ever read was for my ethics class and it was called "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand (She created Emotivism which means people only doing something to benefit themselves.)

In 11th grade, my literature teacher had us read Harry Potter. Parents really got angry with the fact that we weren't reading things such as Macbeth, or Hamlet. Then the religion crap got into it; Apperantly some parents didn't like the fact that their children were reading "Witchcraft". My opinion- We were way too old for Harry Potter.
As opposed to Macbeth which has absolutly no witchcraft in it what so ever.

Objectivism is the word you are looking for. Mmm, pure capitalism.