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Religion, I don't get it

Of the council of clan
01-09-2004, 18:10
well i don't.
Marxlan
01-09-2004, 18:17
Well, there are some religions that believe there is one god, and others that believe there are several. This "God" or supreme being is usually behind creation, and may or not bring with him/her/it/them a certain morality and promise of reward in the after-life, or through reincarnation, which is a belief that people are reborn in a different form after they die, based on how they lived their lives.....
Is this helpful?
Dacowookies
01-09-2004, 18:23
stay ignorant....it's not worth the effort :)
Faithfull-freedom
01-09-2004, 18:24
Well I guess you better get one then you might have a shot at getting it!
Marxlan
01-09-2004, 18:27
stay ignorant....it's not worth the effort :)
Can't really argue with you there, even if I am a Catholic. Sometimes we make me sick... wait a second... THAT's a sin?! Oh, come on! On the other hand, some religions are less archaic, but I think I'll huddle over here with the RCC, just in case they're right about you other heathens going to to hell... though they're REALLY VAGUE about whether or not you are or not.... fucking indecisive.
Colodia
01-09-2004, 18:27
Here's a very comprehensive article about religion from Wikipedia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

Read it, and ye shall... get it. :p
Don't you mean get MORE confused?
Rek Nadal
01-09-2004, 18:29
religion? hmm ive seen another thread today debating if god really exists. :rolleyes: opoinions will be allways different because, some religions are strict, some have too unquestioning supporters to ever believe otherwise. As is Greek, or cypriot orthodoxism
Grave_n_idle
01-09-2004, 18:33
well i don't.

Cool - did you get immunized?
Kryozerkia
01-09-2004, 18:35
I just ignore it...and hope it goes away.
E B Guvegrra
01-09-2004, 18:41
stay ignorant....it's not worth the effort :)

Plus, a not insignificant number of religions allow access to at least the 'paradise lite' version of their afterlife (or a not too inconvenient reincarnation host) to those who have died without the opportunity to learn the Truth. If you know about the Truth, however, the supreme being(s) may judge you on how well you practiced the religion in question and condem you to a less pleasant eternity, whether or not you believed in it.

Therefore, my advice is to be nice to everyone and if you see any preachers, missionaries or religious door-steppers heading in your direction put your fingers in your ears and go "La la la la I can't hear you la la la la..." until they go away.

Once you hear about a religion, however, you should then do your utmost to adhere to every single rule and law and commandment, and cumulatively with all other religions you know about. Never mind if this means that the cummulative effect of all the fast days means that the only time you can eat is three minutes to midnight on the second Thursday after the last full moon before the spring equinox, you must adhere to all the rules (including the mutually exclusive ones) or else you are doomed! Doomed!!! Doomed, I tell you!!!!!

(Excuse me, I'm just off burn myself at the stake for practicing witchcraft. Remembering to give myself the evil eye and curse my descendants unto the 13th generation before I pass out, of course...)
Capsule Corporation
01-09-2004, 18:58
Most people believe in a Supreme Being, even though they may call Him by different names.
We know that God, our Heavenly Father, lives. He knows you and each of us and loves us all as His children.

We are commanded to love God. Jesus Christ taught that we must know the only true God to have eternal life. As His children, we must know who He is and what He is like.

As you come to know and love God, you will find greater peace and joy, both in this life and in the life to come.


Full dealy thing: http://www.mormon.org/learn/0,8672,791-1,00.html

Or just look around http://www.mormon.org ... it goes though all the basics of the religion
Cogitation
01-09-2004, 19:06
I just ignore it...and hope it goes away.
80 years from now:

St. Peter: "Lord, Kryozerkia just arrived."
God: "Ignore him and hope that he goes away."

...

:D

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
"Laugh about it for a moment."
NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jester

...

Note for the humor-impaired: Yes, I am aware that NOT being a part of an organized religion does not imply that you don't believe in God. I'm glossing over that detail.

Forgot the "NOT".
Capsule Corporation
01-09-2004, 19:08
80 years from now:

St. Peter: "Lord, Kryozerkia just arrived."
God: "Ignore him and hope that he goes away."

...

:D

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
"Laugh about it for a moment."
NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jester

...

Note for the humor-impaired: Yes, I am aware that being a part of an organized religion does not imply that you don't believe in God. I'm glossing over that detail.
LOL
Superpower07
01-09-2004, 19:13
I am agnostic, however I do believe that one will sometime face judgement for his or her actions . . . yet I won't go condemning or praising people for the most part
Mellowana
01-09-2004, 19:25
...however I do believe that one will sometime face judgement for his or her actions . . . yet I won't go condemning or praising people for the most part

Our human peers are the only judges, as far as I'm concerned.
Capsule Corporation
01-09-2004, 19:49
LOL "Judges"? Our peers say "Dude, whatever you wanna do is fine by me, i accept you" or some crap like that... that ain't how God works lol
Tzorsland
01-09-2004, 20:00
Religion, I don't get it

OK, I'm confused. Is "religion" something you get free in your box of corn flakes and somehow you feel you were ripped off? What's there to "get" about religion and where do you get it?

Is there really any difference between the following statements?

Religion, I don't get it.
Soap Opera Watching, I don't get it.
Wrestling Watching, I don't get it.
Political Debate, I don't get it.
Sex, I don't get it.

If you don't get it, you don't get it. There's not much we can do about that. It's like trying to explain quantum mechanics to someone. Even if you are smart if you don't understand the understanding lingo and if you don't have a sincere desire to want to "get it" you won't "get it."
Keruvalia
01-09-2004, 20:47
well i don't.

Maybe you're not supposed to.
Iztatepopotla
01-09-2004, 21:08
Humans need to give things a purpose, a reason. It's the way humans see things. In ancient times, when primitive people had to contend with things like earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, and other natural catastrophes without the modern technology and understanding they tried to fit this acts of seemingly random, purposeless destruction as the will of several powerful beings with their own agendas and human-like feelings.

The same explanations were given to other things, like the Sun and the Moon, stars and the more difficult questions like "why are we here?". Humans thought that they could get favor from these beings by offering prayers and sacrifices.

Agricultural and hunter-gatherer societies were usually very nature oriented, usually the main deity was a fertility or Earth-related godess. Desert people tended to be herders and had a much more patriarchal based society, therefore their main god tended to be an all powerful male not very inclined to dissent or discussion. Desert religions also introduced the concept of punishment in the afterlife, zoroastrism was the first religion to include the concept of heaven and hell. Most other religions before then had a happy afterlife or simple extintion.

Monotheism, the existence of just one overseeing god was introduced also by a desert people. The Egyptians, specifically, pharao Akhenaton, introduced to cult of the Sun. Which was not a very good business for the competing priests, so they reverted to the old religion of Isis and Osiris shortly after his death. The Hebrews took elements of other religions in the Fertile Crescent and Egypt to form their own monotheist religion.

However, there are still many religions with a variety of gods and theories on the afterlife, as well as answers to the "why are we here?".
Of the council of clan
02-09-2004, 22:09
I don't get it.

Maybe thats because i don't have TV
Bottle
02-09-2004, 22:55
well i don't.
do you want to?

i mean, i always try to understand other points of view, and it is certainly worth acquainting yourself with alternate perspectives in order to challenge and strengthen your own positions, but sometimes it is a good sign if you fundamentally "don't get" something. i "don't get" racism, because i can't empathize; i can't make believe that people are to be judged by their skin color, because it just seems so irrational that i can't get my mind around that. i can't understand homophobia, mysogenism, and religion for pretty much the same reason. and i honestly think it is because of the best parts of my character that these things are so foreign to my way of thinking, so in a perverse way i am proud to "not get" where they are coming from.
Frisbeeteria
02-09-2004, 22:55
well i don't.
Sorry, this one won't work as Letila-bait, but you're reeling in some bigguns anyway.
Bottle
02-09-2004, 23:12
LOL "Judges"? Our peers say "Dude, whatever you wanna do is fine by me, i accept you" or some crap like that... that ain't how God works lol
zounds, if that's how things work in your world then you really need to get some new peers. mine don't let me get away with anything, and i return the favor...that's what peers are for!