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Hehe, so Micheal Moore gets booed at the Oscars, and now this- www.drudgereport.com/kerrymtv.htm

The American people speak out. :-)

The only reason they wouldn't boo a figure of government is if they were hot. Mainly because the people who are listening to MTV are usually retards pretending to be gangsters, anarchists, goths and whores. It's not surprising they would boo them.

The only reason they wouldn't boo a figure of government is if they were hot. Mainly because the people who are listening to MTV are usually retards pretending to be gangsters, anarchists, goths and whores. It's not surprising they would boo them.

That didn't happen at the 1996 victory bash MTV threw for Clinton.

Which was 8 years ago.

Which was 8 years ago.

Dunno, I think MTV's audience has been pretty consistent over its entire span of existence.

Possibly, but maybe they were a bit more politically orientated 8 years ago.

Possibly, but maybe they were a bit more politically orientated 8 years ago.

I'd argue they are slightly more politically active than 8 years ago. Either way, the booing is hilarious.

...and Matt Drudge is a "real journalist."
{eyes roll so hard I get a headache}

I can't say becasue I wasn't watching MTV.

But I watched several different angles/tapes of the MM/Oscars "booing" and there were just as many cheering people as booing... Definitely a mixed bag. But Drudge called it (or quotesd someone calling it) "booing Moore off the stage". Hardly.

I'd say watch it for yourself before you listen to some carefully-fed house monkey like Drudge.

"The American people speak out." {derisive snort}

The only reason they wouldn't boo a figure of government is if they were hot.

The Kerry girls actually aren't entirely unattractive.

I prefer the Bush twins. Better yet, their model cousin.

:rolleyes:

Hehe, so Micheal Moore gets booed at the Oscars, and now this- www.drudgereport.com/kerrymtv.htm


People, when online,
Opinion is stated as fact;
Consider the source

"Media" a haiku.

Thank you.

:rolleyes:

People, when online,
Opinion is stated as fact;
Consider the source

"Media" a haiku.

Thank you.

*claps* what a beautiful haiku.

Drudge is just mad at the world because hes a bald woman

thank god mtv hasnt yet been sucked into the hollywood mentality of conservaitve = evil. liberal = good. I think that some good ol' heated debate, cheering, booing, and independent thought regarding politics will do the young generation of america a world of good.

:rolleyes:

People, when online,
Opinion is stated as fact;
Consider the source

"Media" a haiku.

Thank you.

Not bad, but it's missing a seasonal theme. :p

Who cares?

Kerry's daughters aren't running. He is.

good point.

I am watching the repeat of the MTV awards, and I gotta say that Drudge is doing a tad bit of what the spanish call "El selective reporting." They are booed, without a doubt, but there are an equal amount of people cheering as well. When the (kerry) daughters mention that they want people to vote for their dad, there is a huge cheer from the audience, as well as some boos. After some banter, MTV cuts to the Bush daughters, who basically say the same spiel (voting is important, vote for our dad, etc). Kerry daughters talk about Red-cross effort helping people affected by Hurricane Charley, people cheer, and the MTV goes to Carson Daly, who remains the giant toolbox that he is.

I am now going to have some cookies.

What were the idiot kerry bitches doing on the mtv awards anyways? drumming up the sleeze vote for their dad? Looking to get more felons and dead people in miami to vote democrap?

People, when online,
Opinion is stated as fact;
Consider the source

There's at least 8 syllables in the second line--9 if you consider "opinion" a four-syllable word.

Might I suggest "Opinions stated as fact;" or "Opinions are said as fact;" "...marked as fact;" "...read as fact;" "...seen as fact;" or simply "Editorialize facts?"

What were the idiot kerry bitches doing on the mtv awards anyways? drumming up the sleeze vote for their dad? Looking to get more felons and dead people in miami to vote democrap?

:( Actually dear, you might be mildly surprised to find that not all Miamians are dead voters or convicted felons. Some of us are nice people.

What were the idiot kerry bitches doing on the mtv awards anyways? drumming up the sleeze vote for their dad? Looking to get more felons and dead people in miami to vote democrap?
Ahhh the voice of reason from our good pal "Friends of Bill".
I do like a good, intelligent, well-reasoned and non-opprobrious comment.

...and Matt Drudge is a "real journalist."
{eyes roll so hard I get a headache}

I can't say becasue I wasn't watching MTV.

But I watched several different angles/tapes of the MM/Oscars "booing" and there were just as many cheering people as booing... Definitely a mixed bag. But Drudge called it (or quotesd someone calling it) "booing Moore off the stage". Hardly.

I'd say watch it for yourself before you listen to some carefully-fed house monkey like Drudge.

"The American people speak out." {derisive snort}
Yeah--I'll believe it when I see the videotape.

Drudge is ok.I dont mind him. Generally not overly biased, not really much more than a nice site for news links though.

I dont doubt the story one bit. And its been going both ways. NBC tryed to interview people who came to new york to attend the RNC and every time they asked to speak to a republican people got booed (amazingly it didnt work vice versa... perhaps because less repubs were on site or because the repubs arent as stupidly activisic.)

Drudge isn't overly biased? Compared to who? Michael Savage?

Drudge isn't overly biased? Compared to who? Michael Savage?

Matt Drudge just provides links. He barely ever comments, and when he does he doesn't hesitate to go after the left or right.

I fail to see how Drudge is biased.

What were the idiot kerry bitches doing on the mtv awards anyways? drumming up the sleeze vote for their dad? Looking to get more felons and dead people in miami to vote democrap?


I wish, that just once, you could actually post something that DIDNT make you sound retarded.

Matt Drudge just provides links. He barely ever comments, and when he does he doesn't hesitate to go after the left or right.

I fail to see how Drudge is biased.Bullshit. He "breaks stories" that more often than not turn out to be, well, factually challenged is the nice way of putting it. Once in a blue moon, he gets one right--Lewinsky, for instance, but more often his stories are of the "Kerry has problems with an intern too" type that turn out to be bogus. He also tends to hit Democrats far more oftent than he ever hits Republicans.

Bullshit. He "breaks stories" that more often than not turn out to be, well, factually challenged is the nice way of putting it. Once in a blue moon, he gets one right--Lewinsky, for instance, but more often his stories are of the "Kerry has problems with an intern too" type that turn out to be bogus. He also tends to hit Democrats far more oftent than he ever hits Republicans.

Oh, so every once in a while one of his sensationalist stories turn out to be false. He links dozens of stories a day.

Who broke the Joe Wilson story? The Arnold sex "scandal"? Yeah, definitely pro-GOP stories.

Drudge Report :rolleyes:

Any one have a reliable/credible source?

Oh, so every once in a while one of his sensationalist stories turn out to be false. He links dozens of stories a day.

Who broke the Joe Wilson story? The Arnold sex "scandal"? Yeah, definitely pro-GOP stories.More like every so often one of his sensationalist stories turns out to be true. Drudge is the journalistic equivalent of kitty litter--used kitty litter. Believe him if you wish, but expect to be laughed at thoroughly whenever you cite him as a source.

thank god mtv hasnt yet been sucked into the hollywood mentality of conservaitve = evil. liberal = good. I think that some good ol' heated debate, cheering, booing, and independent thought regarding politics will do the young generation of america a world of good.


If anything MTV is "New York".
"Hollywood = Liberal" is just as much a stereotype fueld by ding-dongs like Drudge as anything else.


Drudge really is a self-important tool. His value is that he allows himself to be used. He got hand-fed his Lewsinski "scoops", and continues to do so.
His bias is obvious to anyone willing to do more than just Call Themselves "objective".

The only reason Drudge seems conservative is because the normal media is overwhelmingly supports Kerry and the Democrats. According to a lengthy study I read done by Candanian journalists(Not exactly the most conservative group of people out there), the Drudge report is the most in the middle.

I have seen people talking about articles off the drudgereport on cnn, abc, cbs, foxnews, msnbc, and I think nbc. I think most of the time these people are recognized as relient sources.

Drudge rarely posts on his own, normally its links to tha AP, or *shock* the New York Times. I doubt someone who is overwhemlignly conservative would ever post links to the NYT.

I admit that Matt Drudge will probally vote for Dubya, and he may overstate things abit, but he overstates things on both sides of the politcal spectrum.

The only reason Drudge seems conservative is because the normal media is overwhelmingly supports Kerry and the Democrats. According to a lengthy study I read done by Candanian journalists(Not exactly the most conservative group of people out there), the Drudge report is the most in the middle.

I have seen people talking about articles off the drudgereport on cnn, abc, cbs, foxnews, msnbc, and I think nbc. I think most of the time these people are recognized as relient sources.

Drudge rarely posts on his own, normally its links to tha AP, or *shock* the New York Times. I doubt someone who is overwhemlignly conservative would ever post links to the NYT.

I admit that Matt Drudge will probally vote for Dubya, and he may overstate things abit, but he overstates things on both sides of the politcal spectrum.Bullcrap--Sludge is part of the hate media and hes a dyed in the wool full fledged republican hack who uses foxnews lie tactics in his reporting, such as only talking about the people who booed the Kerry girls but not mentioning at all the greater number of people who cheered them

The only reason they wouldn't boo a figure of government is if they were hot. Mainly because the people who are listening to MTV are usually retards pretending to be gangsters, anarchists, goths and whores. It's not surprising they would boo them.

They pretend to be whores? Could have fooled me...

umm, i would have ran up on stage and consoled that good looking brunette.

You know, forever the gentleman and all.

(shes hot looking in that pic.)

More like every so often one of his sensationalist stories turns out to be true. Drudge is the journalistic equivalent of kitty litter--used kitty litter. Believe him if you wish, but expect to be laughed at thoroughly whenever you cite him as a source.
I think he's more of the right's answer to Greg Palast.

What were the idiot kerry bitches doing on the mtv awards anyways? drumming up the sleeze vote for their dad? Looking to get more felons and dead people in miami to vote democrap?
Perhaps you are missing some love and affection in your life? :eek:

Ah, and the truth comes out.. It wasn't just the Kerry girls who got cheers and boos at the MTV awards last night. As it turns out, the Bush girls were there via video as well. All four trying to get out the vote. So I suppose we will be left wondering who was being bood and who was being cheered, Kerry's girls or Bush's? Hehe, I love how the poster failed to mention this little tid bit.. however, I'm certainly not surprised.

who cares, Jenna(s) Bush is hot, and shes a lush, but the world is tired of her and now needs new meat.

check this out for proof that Kerry's brunette daughter is on the menu...

(i tried this in another post without reaction so let me know if the HTML is working properly)

scroll down to the bottom of this page...

http://www.thefirsttwins.com/kerry.html

Ah, and the truth comes out.. It wasn't just the Kerry girls who got cheers and boos at the MTV awards last night. As it turns out, the Bush girls were there via video as well. All four trying to get out the vote. So I suppose we will be left wondering who was being bood and who was being cheered, Kerry's girls or Bush's? Hehe, I love how the poster failed to mention this little tid bit.. however, I'm certainly not surprised.

" ~ Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive ~ " Sir Walter Scott

I think he's more of the right's answer to Greg Palast.
Except that Palast is an award-winning journalist and Drudge is a joke who couldn't get a job with a real news organization if he tried--not as a reporter anyway.

Ah, and the truth comes out.. It wasn't just the Kerry girls who got cheers and boos at the MTV awards last night. As it turns out, the Bush girls were there via video as well. All four trying to get out the vote. So I suppose we will be left wondering who was being bood and who was being cheered, Kerry's girls or Bush's? Hehe, I love how the poster failed to mention this little tid bit.. however, I'm certainly not surprised.


Well being that it was overly quiet for the 30 seconds the Bush girls spoke, and the booing reached its highest(well yes, as did the cheering, but hey Hollywood was there) when the Kerry girls said to vote for their dad, I was right. I (unfortunally) had to watch it(dont ask). So I would know.

Well being that it was overly quiet for the 30 seconds the Bush girls spoke, and the booing reached its highest(well yes, as did the cheering, but hey Hollywood was there) when the Kerry girls said to vote for their dad, I was right. I (unfortunally) had to watch it(dont ask). So I would know.
And I assume you have absolutely no reason to overstate the amount of booing as compared to cheering, right? No agenda or anything? I mean, you do seem to think that Drudge is a nonbiased source, after all. :rolleyes:

Except that Palast is an award-winning journalist and Drudge is a joke who couldn't get a job with a real news organization if he tried--not as a reporter anyway.
Michael Moore has won awards, too. That dosen't mean that him, his documentaries, or his books are any more credible.

Michael Moore has won awards, too. That dosen't mean that him, his documentaries, or his books are any more credible.Moore's work--and Palast's work, for that matter--is credible because it's accurate and pays close attention to detail, especially Palast's. Palast works in the field of journalism in a country (Britain) that has some of the most plaintiff favorable libel laws in the world. He's been sued and won--not easy to do. Why? Because he makes sure he has accurate and unimpeachable sources before he goes to press. That's a damn sight more than anyone can say for Drudge.

Moore's work--and Palast's work, for that matter--is credible because it's accurate and pays close attention to detail, especially Palast's. Palast works in the field of journalism in a country (Britain) that has some of the most plaintiff favorable libel laws in the world. He's been sued and won--not easy to do. Why? Because he makes sure he has accurate and unimpeachable sources before he goes to press. That's a damn sight more than anyone can say for Drudge.


Micheal Moore-accurate? attention to detail? What are you smoking?
www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
www.BowlingForTruth.com
www.MooreLies.com
www.mooreexposed.com
and of course
http://www.imao.us/archives/001624.html hehe this ones funny

And I dont see major news organizations using Micheal Moore as a source as they use Mathew Drudge

And I assume you have absolutely no reason to overstate the amount of booing as compared to cheering, right? No agenda or anything? I mean, you do seem to think that Drudge is a nonbiased source, after all. :rolleyes:


Probally because there was more booing...?
And at least Drudge is respected by some non-conservates, while everyone but the left hates Micheal Moore.

lol, that is like when we booed John Thune because his kids went to the private school that we were playing in the Dakota Bowl, Washington Vs. O'Gorman, always a great game.

Probally because there was more booing...?
And at least Drudge is respected by some non-conservates, while everyone but the left hates Micheal Moore.

God I hate Michael Moore, don't you ever wish he would walk is fat ass into oncoming traffic?

A reporter asked Michael Moore why the Republicans couldn't make a movie like Moore's, his response: "Well, my movies are funny, the Republicans are not funny."

Please tell me I am not the only one who thinks he is full of shit.

Moore's work--and Palast's work, for that matter--is credible because it's accurate and pays close attention to detail, especially Palast's. Palast works in the field of journalism in a country (Britain) that has some of the most plaintiff favorable libel laws in the world. He's been sued and won--not easy to do. Why? Because he makes sure he has accurate and unimpeachable sources before he goes to press. That's a damn sight more than anyone can say for Drudge.
When your famous and have a decent amount of money, it dosen't take innocence to survive court cases, it takes a good lawyer and an expert defense team to go along with it. Tons of things have been written debunking Moore and disputing Palast. People have published false things, made bad videos, etc. without being called on it for libel in the past - Johnnie Cochran and Mark Geragos (or the ACLU) do wonders.

Micheal Moore-accurate? attention to detail? What are you smoking?
www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
www.BowlingForTruth.com
www.MooreLies.com
www.mooreexposed.com
and of course
http://www.imao.us/archives/001624.html hehe this ones funny

And I dont see major news organizations using Micheal Moore as a source as they use Mathew DrudgeAnd not a word about Palast. And while Moore has had a penchant for overstatement int he past, everything in his last book and his last film has been verified and documented. Of the two, I trust Palast far more, no question, but I'll take either of them over Drudge in a heartbeat.

As to your "major news organizations" that use Drudge as a source, the ones that do are more often right-wing news sources (like the Moonie Times or WorldNetDaily or Newsmax) and when mainstream news organizations quote him, they always do so with a disclaimer so as to try to remove some of the stink from themselves.

Micheal Moore-accurate? attention to detail? What are you smoking?
www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
www.BowlingForTruth.com
www.MooreLies.com
www.mooreexposed.com
and of course
http://www.imao.us/archives/001624.html hehe this ones funny

And I dont see major news organizations using Micheal Moore as a source as they use Mathew Drudge
Yeah like these sites aren't biased? The biggest problem for some Americans, is that they don't like their faults to be dragged out into the open. Moore brings forward some of the hidden faults and says...here it is...now fix it!!

Living in denial does not accomplish too much and continued denial only makes the underlying problems worse. Moore loves his country and wants to take it back from where it is going.

When your famous and have a decent amount of money, it dosen't take innocence to survive court cases, it takes a good lawyer and an expert defense team to go along with it. Tons of things have been written debunking Moore and disputing Palast. People have published false things, made bad videos, etc. without being called on it for libel in the past - Johnnie Cochran and Mark Geragos (or the ACLU) do wonders.
Obviously you know nothing about Palast--he's far from rich or famous. But more importantly, do you even listen to yourself? You dismiss anyone or anything that detracts from your own blindered worldview with offhand comments that have no factual basis. I mean, I may have a pretty strong worldview, but I've got factual basis for it, and I'm willing to change my mind ona subject if the evidence for another point of view is strong enough to warrant it.

Yeah like these sites aren't biased? The biggest problem for some Americans, is that they don't like their faults to be dragged out into the open. Moore brings forward some of the hidden faults and says...here it is...now fix it!!

Living in denial does not accomplish too much and continued denial only makes the underlying problems worse. Moore loves his country and wants to take it back from where it is going.


I am going to guess that you did not read the sites, but anyway, with the exception of the last one, which is satire, the rest have facts, something that Moore doesnt relize are different from opinons. They cant be biased. Read them before you mock them please.

And a quote about Micheal Moore,from McCain, someone who is friends with John kerry, and who some of the Democrats like- "A disingenuous film maker who would have us believe that Saddam's Iraq was an oasis of peace when in fact it was a place of indescribable cruelty, torture chambers, mass graves and prisons that destroyed the lives of the small children held inside their walls."

I am going to guess that you did not read the sites, but anyway, with the exception of the last one, which is satire, the rest have facts, something that Moore doesnt relize are different from opinons. They cant be biased. Read them before you mock them please.

And a quote about Micheal Moore,from McCain, someone who is friends with John kerry, and who some of the Democrats like- "A disingenuous film maker who would have us believe that Saddam's Iraq was an oasis of peace when in fact it was a place of indescribable cruelty, torture chambers, mass graves and prisons that destroyed the lives of the small children held inside their walls."
I have seen these sites and I have also seen Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 911, and personally I find the films far more factual than the BS and hate that oozes from those web sites.

But thanks for your concern. BTW, have you ever watched any of Moore's films?

And not a word about Palast. And while Moore has had a penchant for overstatement int he past, everything in his last book and his last film has been verified and documented. Of the two, I trust Palast far more, no question, but I'll take either of them over Drudge in a heartbeat.

As to your "major news organizations" that use Drudge as a source, the ones that do are more often right-wing news sources (like the Moonie Times or WorldNetDaily or Newsmax) and when mainstream news organizations quote him, they always do so with a disclaimer so as to try to remove some of the stink from themselves.


I dont know much about Palast so I dont really have much to say, except if he is compared to Micheal Moore, he cant be all good. But anyway, can you name me 1 occaison besides the Kerry intern thing where Matt Drudge has been accused of or been proven wrong

I have seen these sites and I have also seen Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 911, and personally I find the films far more factual than the BS and hate that oozes from those web sites.

But thanks for your concern. BTW, have you ever watched any of Moore's films?

Yep, and I have to say, splicing interviews together and pretending they were one is not very factual.

Yep, and I have to say, splicing interviews together and pretending they were one is not very factual.
Well the facts are there for all to see and it is not a pretty sight to say the least. Refer to my previous post about hidden faults. The footage of Bush sitting there like a bump on a log while the US is under attack certainlty was graphic enough for me.

Obviously you know nothing about Palast--he's far from rich or famous. But more importantly, do you even listen to yourself? You dismiss anyone or anything that detracts from your own blindered worldview with offhand comments that have no factual basis. I mean, I may have a pretty strong worldview, but I've got factual basis for it, and I'm willing to change my mind ona subject if the evidence for another point of view is strong enough to warrant it.
Funny. I think the same way about you, especially when you class-related debates come up.

I dont know much about Palast so I dont really have much to say, except if he is compared to Micheal Moore, he cant be all good. But anyway, can you name me 1 occaison besides the Kerry intern thing where Matt Drudge has been accused of or been proven wrongWell, there was the false allegation that Clinton aide Sid Blumenthal had been arrested for beating his wife. There was the consistent statement that Jehn Kerry was going to choose Hillary Clinton as his running mate. There was the accusation that Kerry reenacted combat footage while still in Vietnam so he could help a future political career. Shall I continue?

Well, this shows where MTV's political alliance's lie.

MTV is a large corporation that specializes in selling products to young people. They aim to control the minds of our nation's youth. MTV is run by a board of adults, and broadcasts at least 50% advertisements on its TV channel.

Well, there was the false allegation that Clinton aide Sid Blumenthal had been arrested for beating his wife. There was the consistent statement that Jehn Kerry was going to choose Hillary Clinton as his running mate. There was the accusation that Kerry reenacted combat footage while still in Vietnam so he could help a future political career. Shall I continue?


I dont remember the first one, but the 2nd one was not on his website, but rather linked to by on of the columnnists, of which he has a varied amount, including Maureen Dowd! Not all conservative there. Anyway, the Kerry footage hasnt been proven false yet.(Not that I believe it or anything)

So ignoring my above writing, you found 3 things, so thats 4 things total. Im sure that there are a few more, but thats averaging right there less than 1 thing wrong a year. Pretty good record compared to most major media outlets, with mistakes and corrections mad almost daily.

Well being that it was overly quiet for the 30 seconds the Bush girls spoke, and the booing reached its highest(well yes, as did the cheering, but hey Hollywood was there) when the Kerry girls said to vote for their dad, I was right. I (unfortunally) had to watch it(dont ask). So I would know.

My take was the Kerry daughters were booed and cheered about an equal amount. A mixed bag really. But it was pretty quiet when the Bush daughters spoke. Little to no cheering for them, but also little to no booing too. I found that odd.

But then again...this was in Florida....not the smartest state come election time

But then again...this was in Florida....not the smartest state come election time

The awards were held in Miami.....and folks down there remember well the Elian Gonzales incident of a few years ago. They don't much like Democrats down there. ;)

The awards were held in Miami.....and folks down there remember well the Elian Gonzales incident of a few years ago. They don't much like Democrats down there. ;)
Cubans don't like Democrats down there, and even that's changing thanks to the ham-handed way the administration has restricted family travel and the amount of money that Cuban exiles can send back to their families. But they're only one part of a much larger population group. Overall, south Florida is a Democratic stronghold. If you look at the voter breakdowns from the 2000 election, south Florida is strong blue while everything from Orlando northward is red. The reason the vote was so close was because the population centers are in south Florida--the urban area that runs from Palm Beach to Miami is something like 6 million people alone.

Cubans don't like Democrats down there, and even that's changing thanks to the ham-handed way the administration has restricted family travel and the amount of money that Cuban exiles can send back to their families. But they're only one part of a much larger population group. Overall, south Florida is a Democratic stronghold. If you look at the voter breakdowns from the 2000 election, south Florida is strong blue while everything from Orlando northward is red. The reason the vote was so close was because the population centers are in south Florida--the urban area that runs from Palm Beach to Miami is something like 6 million people alone.

Not necessarily. I think you might want to re-look at that. Cuban exiles have more power than you think. Just look at the sugar industry here. Why is it cheaper to buy imported Dutch cookies in the grocery store than it is to buy Oreos? Because of sugar subsidies that keep cheaper foreign sugar out and keeps the price of domestic sugar high.

There are areas in South Florida that are highly Democrat, but the vast majority of the Cuban population is Republican. I know many Cuban businessmen in Miami and not one of them would or has ever voted for a Democrat. Hispanics tend to be very family oriented and conservative and the Democrats are anything but that.