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Perhaps this video collection and the release of Fahrenheit 911 will dull the Republican Convention bounce?

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LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Hoping to capitalize on the inevitable hype that will surround the DVD release of Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" in October, MGM has teamed with Miramax Films to rerelease a souped-up version of the director's Oscar-winning "Bowling for Columbine" DVD packaged with his more obscure film "The Big One."

The three-disc set -- which also will contain a 15-minute featurette called "39 Cities in 23 Days," basically consisting of footage collected during Moore's book tour for "Dude, Where's My Country?" -- is dubbed the "Michael Moore DVD Collector's Set" and hits shelves Oct. 5, the same day as "Fahrenheit 9/11."

"The Big One," distributed domestically by Miramax in 1998, is a 90-minute documentary that has Moore pestering CEOs to explain how fat profits can lead to employee layoffs. It's tagline: "Protecting the earth from the scum of corporate America."

The "Bowling" DVD is the hard-to-find special version from a year ago containing about four hours of bonus material, as opposed to the standard version widely available. The collector set will retail for $29.98. Additionally, Miramax will make "The Big One" available as a $19.99 stand-alone DVD product beginning the same day.

The collector's set is a limited edition available only through the holiday season, said Blake Thomas, executive vp worldwide marketing at MGM Home Entertainment.

"This is not coming back," he said. "It's specifically for the election and the holiday season, then it will go away."

Moore publicly stated his desire to have Sony release the DVD of the politically controversial "Fahrenheit 9/11" before the November presidential election. The company confirmed last week that it would, and MGM intends to piggyback that strategy to spur sales of its collector set.

"The intensity of interest in what Michael has to say will be peaking in the 30 days prior to the election," Thomas said.

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter

I know what I want for Christmas!!

My friend is in a college class about movies or something and they're watching F9/11 in class on Election day.

Ok, none of Micheal Moores movies have ever affected the polls. It just distortes the truth and makes both sides more involved and angry but does nothing to switch the poll standings as seen by poll results before and after his movie(a documentry has to have facts;-)) was released.

My friend is in a college class about movies or something and they're watching F9/11 in class on Election day.

Sounds like your friend's professor has an agenda.

Ok, none of Micheal Moores movies have ever affected the polls. It just distortes the truth and makes both sides more involved and angry but does nothing to switch the poll standings as seen by poll results before and after his movie(a documentry has to have facts;-)) was released.
Polls are polls. Come election day, who knows what worked and didn't? If the Dems win, Moore just might have contributed that 1 extra vote that was necessary. The polls say that it is a close race. BTW, perhaps the Electoral College vote might have been affected by the movie, with more states leaning towards Kerry?

In Fahrenheit 911, the most amazing part of the film was the clip of Bush just sitting there with barely an expression on his face as America was under attack. That blew me away.

Polls are polls. Come election day, who knows what worked and didn't? If the Dems win, Moore just might have contributed that 1 extra vote that was necessary. The polls say that it is a close race. BTW, perhaps the Electoral College vote might have been affected by the movie, with more states leaning towards Kerry?

In Fahrenheit 911, the most amazing part of the film was the clip of Bush just sitting there with barely an expression on his face as America was under attack. That blew me away.


http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6.htm

States are more likely voting for Bush now.

And btw, the teacher in the classroom said she believes that Bush did absolutly the right thing in that situation.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6.htm

States are more likely voting for Bush now.

And btw, the teacher in the classroom said she believes that Bush did absolutly the right thing in that situation.
Try this site:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Well that is 1 teacher, which of course does not even mean that she will vote for him. I think that that clip of him sitting there displays his inability to act decisively in a moments notice. The country was under attack for crying out loud.

Try this site:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Well that is 1 teacher, which of course does not even mean that she will vote for him. I think that that clip of him sitting there displays his inability to act decisively in a moments notice. The country was under attack for crying out loud.

Yes, and if he lept from his chair ranting he would have been out of control and not thinking rationally. Not to mention scaring the crap out of a classroom of children. Something about damned if you, damned if you don't springs to mind.....*yaaawwwnnnn*

I think he reacted in the right manner to the information he was given considering his location at the time of receiving it.

Yes, and if he lept from his chair ranting he would have been out of control and not thinking rationally. Not to mention scaring the crap out of a classroom of children. Something about damned if you, damned if you don't springs to mind.....*yaaawwwnnnn*

I think he reacted in the right manner to the information he was given considering his location at the time of receiving it.
Well he certainly was NOT in control while just sitting there. :eek:

I am also sure that there is a response somewhere between inaction and raving lunatic.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6.htm

States are more likely voting for Bush now.

Please don't try to pass off the Drudge Report as an unbiased source. It's full of distortion and all-out lies. Not to say that there aren't similar liberal sites, it's just that I have yet to see someone pass off a poll from www.liberaloasis.com as the truth.

Well he certainly was NOT in control while just sitting there. :eek:

I am also sure that there is a response somewhere between inaction and raving lunatic.

OK, you are in a room full of children and you receive news that two aircraft have been deliberately flown into the World Trade Centre buildings in New York, how would you react? Would you be shocked? Would you take a minutes or so to take in the information and its ramifications? I would.

My friend is in a college class about movies or something and they're watching F9/11 in class on Election day.
Sounds like your friend's professor has an agenda.

Maybe he's a Republican and his agenda is to keep all the pro-Moores away from the polling booths ;)

While I like Moore's work, I don't think I could handle sitting thru 3 of his movies! Anyone see 'Fog of War'? I have it on DVD, and that is an example of superb documentary-making. Moore's films are really docutainment.
I don't think Miramax is really trying to influence the election with this package. It's simply using it to sell more product. All the Weinsteins are interested in is making money, nothing else.

Maybe he's a Republican and his agenda is to keep all the pro-Moores away from the polling booths ;)

While I like Moore's work, I don't think I could handle sitting thru 3 of his movies! Anyone see 'Fog of War'? I have it on DVD, and that is an example of superb documentary-making. Moore's films are really docutainment.
I don't think Miramax is really trying to influence the election with this package. It's simply using it to sell more product. All the Weinsteins are interested in is making money, nothing else.

Moore is taking advantage of the election to make more money...that capitalist bastard! ;)

OK, you are in a room full of children and you receive news that two aircraft have been deliberately flown into the World Trade Centre buildings in New York, how would you react? Would you be shocked? Would you take a minutes or so to take in the information and its ramifications? I would.
Except it wasn't a minute or two. It was twenty minutes, followed by a photo-op outside. Sure he was in shock, but he's the president. He should be prepared for extreme things. They always have contingency plans. What was wrong after a minute or two getting up and saying to the kids "Great to see you kids, sorry got some Presidential stuff to do! Keep reading and studying and say hello to you Mom and Dad for me! Bye!" Then walking straight out?
I mean what's going to happen if N.Korea decide to A-Bomb Japan? Is Bush just going to sit there for 20 minutes?
He showed that he can't be trusted. The Police, Fire dept and Ambulance drivers didn't sit staring into space for 20 mins when they first heard about the attacks. They acted. Immediately. Yet they must have been feeling shock. So why is it different for Bush?

Except it wasn't a minute or two. It was twenty minutes, followed by a photo-op outside. Sure he was in shock, but he's the president. He should be prepared for extreme things.

Ah, so as President he hands in his humanity at the door? Was anyone prepared for September 11?

They always have contingency plans. What was wrong after a minute or two getting up and saying to the kids "Great to see you kids, sorry got some Presidential stuff to do! Keep reading and studying and say hello to you Mom and Dad for me! Bye!" Then walking straight out?

Nothing, but there was nothing wrong with remaining calm and allowing those best equipped to react (the emergency services) to do their job. What would you have had Bush do in those 20 minutes?

I mean what's going to happen if N.Korea decide to A-Bomb Japan? Is Bush just going to sit there for 20 minutes?

What do you think Bush could do in 20 minutes to save Japan from an "A-Bomb" that had already been detonated? You are aware that the US actually has a defense force and intelligence agencies that would detect these activities?

He showed that he can't be trusted. The Police, Fire dept and Ambulance drivers didn't sit staring into space for 20 mins when they first heard about the attacks. They acted. Immediately. Yet they must have been feeling shock. So why is it different for Bush?

That is their job as emergency services. To respond immediately in an emergency. What do you think Bush could have done from where he was? How on Earth is Bush taking 20 minutes to gather himself after being informed of a national disaster evidence that he cannot be trusted? Cannot be trusted with what?

That is their job as emergency services. To respond immediately in an emergency.
Right, yet it's not the president's job to respond immediately in an emergency. He can can happily sit in a primary school class for 20 minutes reading the Happy Goat when theres a major problem. I'm just glad the US didn't have him as president during the Cuban missile crisis.

"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win." - Michael Moore

This guy makes Goebbels look like a boy scout.

Right, yet it's not the president's job to respond immediately in an emergency. He can can happily sit in a primary school class for 20 minutes reading the Happy Goat when theres a major problem. I'm just glad the US didn't have him as president during the Cuban missile crisis.

I didn't say he should not respond, his response should be calm and measured however. I think you are really taking artistic licence to say he sat "happily" in a primary school class after hearing the news of the attacks on the WTC.

Moore is a douche...end of story...not that Bush isn't....

Right, yet it's not the president's job to respond immediately in an emergency. He can can happily sit in a primary school class for 20 minutes reading the Happy Goat when theres a major problem. I'm just glad the US didn't have him as president during the Cuban missile crisis.

Actually, I bet Cuba would be #51 had he been prez...

Actually, I bet Cuba would be #51 had he been prez...
Ummm....I doubt it. Cuba had 192 nuclear missiles already there before the blockade. And Fidel demanded that Kruschev use them if the US invaded.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6.htm

States are more likely voting for Bush now.

And btw, the teacher in the classroom said she believes that Bush did absolutly the right thing in that situation.
And BTW, do you have a source about what the teacher's comments were?

I'm pretty sure the worst thing that will happen to Bush will be the debates.

1] Bush will stammer and hem and haw and deliver a huge slew of Bushisms and never actually answer any questions concerning the issues. People will see that and none of the Bush buzzwords (terrorism, Iraq, freedom) will make any difference in the face of watching the sad monkey squirm.

2] Edwards is a trial lawyer. He's going to eat Cheney alive.

The debates will make all the difference. Wait and watch.

Ah, so as President he hands in his humanity at the door? Was anyone prepared for September 11?
According to Richard Clarke, Bush did nothing to prepare for 9/11:

"I find it outrageous that the President is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism. He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11. Maybe. We'll never know."

He also ignored terrorism while it was happening.


Nothing, but there was nothing wrong with remaining calm and allowing those best equipped to react (the emergency services) to do their job. What would you have had Bush do in those 20 minutes?
How about going to work and doing his job? As Commander in Chief, do you not think he should be in touch with defence forces ASAP? What if there had been 10 or 20 other planes flying into buildings all over the country? As it was, there was a huge lag from the time the first plane struck the WTC and when defence jets were scrambled...why is that?

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6.htm

States are more likely voting for Bush now.


In bold .... 'nuff said.

I'm pretty sure the worst thing that will happen to Bush will be the debates.

1] Bush will stammer and hem and haw and deliver a huge slew of Bushisms and never actually answer any questions concerning the issues. People will see that and none of the Bush buzzwords (terrorism, Iraq, freedom) will make any difference in the face of watching the sad monkey squirm.

2] Edwards is a trial lawyer. He's going to eat Cheney alive.

The debates will make all the difference. Wait and watch.
They certainly should be interesting. I hope that you are right.

I'm pretty sure the worst thing that will happen to Bush will be the debates.

1] Bush will stammer and hem and haw and deliver a huge slew of Bushisms and never actually answer any questions concerning the issues. People will see that and none of the Bush buzzwords (terrorism, Iraq, freedom) will make any difference in the face of watching the sad monkey squirm.

2] Edwards is a trial lawyer. He's going to eat Cheney alive.

Naw, Cheney will eat Edwards alive. That's the sort of thing he does on a regular basis from what I've heard. Babies mostly, but a lawyer wil be a nice change for him.
I hope someone asks Bush what he thinks of Sovereign Nations again. That was priceless! :p

Lets face it, the only poll that will matter is the election on Nov 2nd.

Lets face it, the only poll that will matter is the election on Nov 2nd.
Hehe Im waiting for the day!

2] Edwards is a trial lawyer. He's going to eat Cheney alive.

The debates will make all the difference. Wait and watch.

What is Edwards going to do to win? Is he going to talk using the spirits of all the dead babies that Cheney had ate to make his points? Oh shoot, these debates aren't for big cash settlements so I don't think he'll do so hot.

According to Richard Clarke, Bush did nothing to prepare for 9/11:

"I find it outrageous that the President is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism. He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11. Maybe. We'll never know."

He also ignored terrorism while it was happening.

I wasn't aware September 11 was booked in like you claim. I thought it was a surprise attack.


How about going to work and doing his job? As Commander in Chief, do you not think he should be in touch with defence forces ASAP? What if there had been 10 or 20 other planes flying into buildings all over the country? As it was, there was a huge lag from the time the first plane struck the WTC and when defence jets were scrambled...why is that?

Would that have been because the air traffic control failed to recognise the situation when planes atarted disappearing off the radar and chaging direction? How do you know what was said to Bush when he was in the classroom?