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Frenchmen Captured in Iraq

_Susa_
28-08-2004, 22:52
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130458,00.html

Tape Shows Two French Hostages in Iraq
Saturday, August 28, 2004

CAIRO, Egypt — Islamic militants released a brief tape showing two French journalists kidnapped recently in Iraq and said they were holding the men to protest a French law banning headscarves in schools, according to footage aired Saturday by an Arab TV station.

The station, Al-Jazeera (search), said the group gave the French government 48 hours to overturn the law but mentioned no ultimatum.

Christian Chesnot (search) of Radio France-Internationale, or RFI, and Georges Malbrunot (search) of Le Figaro newspaper and RTL radio have not been in touch with their employers since Aug. 19, the French Foreign Ministry said last week.

The station's news reader said the group described the French law banning religious apparel in public schools as "an aggression on the Islamic religion and personal freedoms."

The tape, lasting 3-4 seconds, showed the men separately, each standing in front of a black background emblazoned in red with the group's name, the Islamic Army in Iraq, in Arabic. The tape did not give the hostages' names, but their employers in France later identified them.

Chesnot appeared first, saying in poor Arabic that "we are being held by the Islamic Army in Iraq."


The tape then showed Malbrunot. "First of all, I want to tell my family that all is well and we are being treated well," he says in French just before the tape cuts off.

Sheik Abdulsattar Abduljawad, from the Association of Muslim Scholars, an influential Sunni Muslim group believed to have links to insurgents, called for the release of the journalists.

"We call the Islamic Army in Iraq to free the French hostages and ask the French government to cancel their decision forbidding the wearing of the Hijab (the head scarf)," he told Al-Jazeera early Sunday.

The French law, which takes effect Wednesday, forbids public school students from wearing religious apparel and "conspicuous" signs showing their religious affiliation. That includes Jewish skullcaps and large Christian crosses.

French authorities have made clear, however, that the ban is aimed at removing Islamic head scarves from classrooms. The law sparked protests at home and abroad, with many Muslims saying they felt unfairly targeted.

The last time the reporters checked in, they were in Baghdad, RFI said. LCI television said they were last sighted about 20 miles outside Baghdad, on the road heading to Najaf.

Because of the video, "we know that they have been taken hostage," said Jacques Esnous, RTL editorial director.

"We saw that they are in good health, but we also saw that they have an appalling sword of Damocles hanging above them," he told The Associated Press. "The terrible decision rests with the government."

But he added: "It's a choice between democracy and fanaticism, and until now democratic governments have never conceded to fanatics ... That is why we are terribly worried."

A spokesman for President Jacques Chirac's Elysee office said that he had heard about the Al-Jazeera report, but that the hostage-takers had not contacted French officials.

Asked if France was willing to reconsider the headscarf law, the spokesman said: "I don't think we are at that point for the moment."

"We must see what the claim is and how credible it is," he said, speaking on condition of anonymity. "We are waiting to learn more."

On Tuesday, Al-Jazeera broadcast a videotape purportedly released by the same group showing abducted freelance journalist Enzo Baldoni, 56. Two days later, the station received another video that showed Baldoni's killing.

A senior Al-Jazeera editor, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the latest video was similar in form to the Baldoni tape aired Tuesday. Both tapes showed the hostages standing in front of a black background with red Arabic script in the background.

Philippe Necand, deputy chief editor at RTL radio, noted that the name of the group cited by Al-Jazeera is similar to the group that supposedly killed the Italian reporter.

"We are worried when we see what happened to the Italian," Necand told AP. "We can always hope."

Scores of foreigners have been kidnapped in recent months by insurgents and criminal gangs seeking to extort ransom or with the political motive of trying to force foreign troops and companies to leave the country.

In April, 40-year-old French TV journalist Alex Jordanov was freed after four days in captivity in Iraq during which he was repeatedly interrogated by captors accusing him of being an Israeli spy.

France, which opposed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq last year, has said there are fewer than 100 French citizens in Iraq, mostly journalists, aid workers and the employees of private companies; nearly all are in Baghdad
The Black Forrest
28-08-2004, 22:59
Man these people are stupid. Let's go after one of the EU brokers that activily speaks out against the US.

We have a French gal in our company. She called home and asked about the Scarf rulings. Her parents said yes it was a move against Muslims.

It seems certain branches seem to think Islamic law over rules French law. So the move was to "put them in their place."

I hope the two come out ok.

If they execute them, it might turn the Frenchs attitude on the affair.

Then again they will blame the US for it....
Valued Knowledge
28-08-2004, 23:02
The french law they're going against is completely messed up, and I still can't fathom how it got passed. But, that doesn't condone holding people hostage and threatening to chop of their heads.
Mr Basil Fawlty
28-08-2004, 23:06
If they execute them, it might turn the Frenchs attitude on the affair.



Executing non coalition persons is wrong, specially when they are civillian.
But this won't change the attitude of the non violaters of International law, they won't join the small coallition. The US, Italy aso won't go home neither when terrorists have US aso journalists.

Why should anybody listen to terrorists?

But soon, I'think that the coallition will be one of two nations (US&UK), since most people shame themselves now and try to come back to some descency towards international law. All the mess with the torturing in Iraq was not good for the homefront neither.

Pitty for all those journalists of non combatant nations, neutral ones should be spared. In fact any journalist should. I guess that Mokthada whil tell his men to let him free since he is from a neutral state, just like they did some days ago with a involved nations journalist (after beating him up :-( ), a Brit.
The Black Forrest
28-08-2004, 23:20
Executing non coalition persons is wrong, specially when they are civillian.
But this won't change the attitude of the non violaters of International law, they won't join the small coallition. The US, Italy aso won't go home neither when terrorists have US aso journalists.

Why should anybody listen to terrorists?

But soon, I'think that the coallition will be one of two nations (US&UK), since most people shame themselves now and try to come back to some descency towards international law. All the mess with the torturing in Iraq was not good for the homefront neither.

Pitty for all those journalists of non combatant nations, neutral ones should be spared. In fact any journalist should. I guess that Mokthada whil tell his men to let him free since he is from a neutral state, just like they did some days ago with a involved nations journalist (after beating him up :-( ), a Brit.


I was not suggesting it was a good thing but do you really think people will never change? People have fought over silly things.

The French can change as well especially since they are against the war and yet these animals may murder two of their own.

Time will tell.....
Mr Basil Fawlty
29-08-2004, 00:55
I was not suggesting it was a good thing but do you really think people will never change? People have fought over silly things.

.....

Never said you where suggesting anything :)

But I don't understand what Mokthada (spelled in Flemish, don(t know how to spell it in Eng.) is reaching with the liberation of some coallition journalists (don't take me on this, just a form) like the Brittish one and keeping in hostage neutral journalists, by neutral I mean the journalists of nations that don't have troops there.

Perhaps he has lost control, perhaps there are troops that don't act under Mokthada's orders (guess it is this). Fact is that the next strugle for power will between the old Al Shistani and the newcomer (wich is only the shadow from his by Saddam executed father) Mokthada.

I think that M. want's to be as much imporatant in the new Iraq and is using everything against his opponent Shihite All Shistani. The last one is the guy that is capable to make deals and to help making a country.

Problem is that when someone (Shihite, old Baath, Coalllitian troops) kills him, we will see another man that replaces him. But I think that it will be difficult since the only power of Mokhtada is the respect that he has from th epeopl ebecause his father was a man that fought Saddam.

I think that All Sistani is the man in this country where Shihites are the majority. (never said that he must be president or so, but he is more moderate).




BTW, you are wright, "people will nevere change", I lost all believe in humanity or democracy in the world. Jezus, just watch around,Russia& Grozny, Iraq, the US, Africa and the mercanaries for our mines and oil pits, Pinochet, Sharon aso still not before a tribunal.

Our ancesters did it faster with Neurenbergh and the Tokio Trial (OK I know , some was siegerjustiz like they say in German, but damn. there was an example). Nowadays with all are tribunals (wich I support) nobody is convicted, only some losers.
Pan-Arab Israel
29-08-2004, 00:59
Perhaps they were tagging along to film an attack on another DHL cargo plane when their "hosts" turned on them.
Mr Basil Fawlty
29-08-2004, 01:04
Perhaps they were tagging along to film an attack on another DHL cargo plane when their "hosts" turned on them.


:) DHL, when I read the press from my homecountry they allways plain (?) about ze noise in the neigbourgrhood. Well those people buyed cheap in the area of a airfield and now they complain.

Ha ha, I 'am better of in my village in "ze mountains".

Do you live in Israel? Or around (regarding your name, just curious)
MoeHoward
29-08-2004, 01:04
I just wonder who smells worse, the French Hostages, or the Terrorists, or Mr Basil Fawlty. If those French stink too bad, they may just be released.