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Kerry supporters!

Uplio
28-08-2004, 19:35
Tell me 3 things that John Kerry said he will do if he gets elected. Tell me 3 things he PRECISELY explained as to how he will do it. What will he enact? How will he improve the "45 percent of our nation's waterways (that) do not meet the "drinkable, swimable and fishable" standard set out by the Clean Water Act 30 years ago"?
I looked through his site:
www.johnkerry.com
and found NOTHING. At least as far as I can see.

I looked at Dubja's site:
www.georgewbush.com
and found.... well Im still looking. Im still comparing the 2, but so far (if I could vote) my vote would go to Dubja.
MoeHoward
28-08-2004, 19:40
Tell me 3 things that John Kerry said he will do if he gets elected. Tell me 3 things he PRECISELY explained as to how he will do it. What will he enact? How will he improve the "45 percent of our nation's waterways (that) do not meet the "drinkable, swimable and fishable" standard set out by the Clean Water Act 30 years ago"?
I looked through his site:
www.johnkerry.com
and found NOTHING. At least as far as I can see.

I looked at Dubja's site:
www.georgewbush.com
and found.... well Im still looking. Im still comparing the 2, but so far (if I could vote) my vote would go to Dubja.

It doesn't sound to me like he'll do anything, except talk about his Vietnam service. Maybe play some tennis or snowboard in Idaho. Swim in Theresa's money ala Scrooge McDuck.
Derekgrad
28-08-2004, 19:57
1) http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0822a.html
"Kerry and Edwards will end tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas..."
2) http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/environment/
"As president, John Kerry will reverse the Bush-Cheney rollbacks to our Clean Air Act..."
3) http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/health_care/
"The Kerry-Edwards plan will reduce prescription drug prices by allowing the re-importation of safe prescription drugs from Canada..."
4) (no reference)
I heard on NPR yesterday that he is saying he will be banning "universal defaults". This is what happens when you pay a bill late and that company tells everyone else that you borrow money from to raise your intrest. So if you pay your gas bill late one month, the gas company can call up your furniture store and tell them to raise your intrest up to 29%.

You must have looked real hard.
Valued Knowledge
28-08-2004, 19:57
Maybe he'll burn down some villages and mutilate his enemies for a nostalgic feeling?

Kerry's running purely on two things:

1. I served in Vietnam! Completely makes up for my appalling Senate record.

2. George Bush suxorz! I'd be so better instead, cause I'm like, liberal instead of conservative.

And you're surprised to find holes in his logic?
Derekgrad
29-08-2004, 05:35
Yes, this was a stupid task and you were wrong. I was just the only person stupid enough to answer you.
New Genoa
29-08-2004, 05:37
Maybe he'll burn down some villages and mutilate his enemies for a nostalgic feeling?

Kerry's running purely on two things:

1. I served in Vietnam! Completely makes up for my appalling Senate record.

2. George Bush suxorz! I'd be so better instead, cause I'm like, liberal instead of conservative.

And you're surprised to find holes in his logic?

And Bush is running on:

1.) Kerry's a social liberal commie! Discredit him.

2.) Kerry flip-flops.

And yet, I havent seen a campaign ad for Bush actually stating what he'd do. Just mudslinging Kerry.
Derekgrad
29-08-2004, 05:40
Not only that, but his website has alot less information than Kerry's. My favorite part about Bush's site is that it uses the word "Agenda" a whole lot. Why does he even campaign anyway? We should be judging him on his record for the past four years (9/11, Clear Skys, North Korea and the such).
Sdaeriji
29-08-2004, 05:43
I'd just like to point out that they're both politicians. It's their job to appeal to as many people as they possibly can in order to get elected, while at the same time trying to make their opponent as unappealing as possible. You can't find solid proof of what either of them will do, because if they take a single stance on any issue, they risk alienating potential voters. It's what politicians do. We shouldn't be surprised that neither of them can confirm what they will absolutely do once they're president.

And anyway, the president can't guarantee he'll do anything. They still have to work within the system. They can say what they'll try to do, but they still have to go through Congress, and if Congress votes down anything they propose, then tough luck. So, in reality, it matters very little what either presidential candidate says they'll do, because they have very little control over it.
Undecidedterritory
29-08-2004, 05:45
Now this thread is about kerry not Bush. Why must it always come back to bush? lets talk kerry. I want to know five things.
1) how will he pay for the new prescription drug bills the government will foot , education increases, military increases, ect.( tax increases on the rich cover 1/3 of this and other spending increases proposed)?
2) how will he work with congress to balance the budget noting the above?
3) How will he fight a more sensetive war on terror?
4) Is he for or against partial birth abortion?
5) would he have gone to war with iraq?
Dictator Marc
29-08-2004, 05:53
Its simple, he says he'll tax the rich. The problem is that the rich can't be the ones getting taxes raised(even the rich won't give $2 trillion to the government!). He said he would've still voted for the war. He never really mentions a balanced budget(maybe he's just gonna tax the rich for part of the $2 trillion dollars and let the rest add to the national debt). As to partial birth abortion, it depends(he tends to be on whichever side he's feeling like at the time). He never has mentioned how he'll fight a more effective war on terror(maybe he'll fight it like he was in a political cartoon in a local newspaper, dealing more sensably with Osama by giving him a hug rather than trying to capture him). How is he dead even with Kerry in the polls? Mainly, the liberals have hollywood, the media, etc.

Marc
Derekgrad
29-08-2004, 05:53
Sdaeriji: Good points, except for the fact that a candidate or the President doesn't announce something like that unless he has (or thinks he has) support from his party. Washington is all about favors on bills that the parties think are important.

Undecided: I have an answer to #4 for you. It doesn't matter. They are already illegal and even before Bush signed that into law, they were not being performed. It was just a thing where he wanted to appeal to his ultra-right friends.

Marc: You're obviously a little slow if you think the media is liberal controlled.
Undecidedterritory
29-08-2004, 05:56
pardon me but federal statistics give proof that your statment is false. They were performed ( at a hospital that I work at actualy) And the answer " it doesnt matter" does not fit the question. Is mr. kerry ok with them or not ( if they were legal)?
Undecidedterritory
29-08-2004, 05:57
polls of people in the media show that they are heavily liberal and support Kerry by a wide margin over Bush.
Derekgrad
29-08-2004, 07:00
So push the damn button and watch Fox (or push the AM button on your radio).
Metslandia
29-08-2004, 07:07
And Kerry should not tax the rich. Where do nw buisnesses come from? New services? not from people working on minimum waige.(sp?)
Pantylvania
29-08-2004, 09:12
Tell me 3 things that John Kerry said he will do if he gets elected. Tell me 3 things he PRECISELY explained as to how he will do it. What will he enact? How will he improve the "45 percent of our nation's waterways (that) do not meet the "drinkable, swimable and fishable" standard set out by the Clean Water Act 30 years ago"?
I looked through his site:
www.johnkerry.com
and found NOTHING. At least as far as I can see.
"The Kerry-Edwards plan will provide direct assistance to our police officers and firefighters to ensure that they have the communications systems, protective gear, and manpower they need to protect our communities. It will also modernize our emergency warning system to provide localized warnings, treat the fighters on the frontlines as partners, and provide all Americans with the information they need. To improve our ability to respond to a biological attack, John Kerry will put one individual in charge of our anti-bioterror efforts, set national benchmarks for state and local preparedness, and harness America's bioscience genius to increase drug and vaccine development." http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/homeland_security/homeland_plan.html

"John Kerry will ask Congress for a constitutional form of the line-item veto power to ensure spending remains under control. Under this proposal, the president could sign a bill but identify specific spending items and tax expenditures he disapproves. The specific items would then return to Congress for an expedited, up-or-down vote. Members of Congress would be forced to approve new pork-barrel spending on an individualized basis." http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/budget.pdf

"Under George W. Bush, the USDA has not provided transparent information about contract deals with packers. Small and independent farmers deserve a Department of Agriculture that takes seriously their need to investigate price discrimination of smaller producers. As president, John Kerry will ensure that independent farmers are protected from discriminatory pricing." http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/rural/farmers.html



You got as far as the issues page and then clicked on one of the issue categories. There's one more step. Look at the right side of the screen near where it lists links to speeches. There are also links to the details of his plans. For example, if you go to the issues page, click on Economy, and then click on "Cut the Deficit & Invest in America" under "download detailed plans," you'll find the second page I linked, the one that ends in budget.pdf