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By my count the countries of the former Soviet Union have 127 medals to the US 95, a margin of 32 medals. Good thing the cold war is over of the Americans would be sadly embarrassed.

Hey idiot, when did the USSR ever crush us at the summer olympics? The former nations have more medals for the simple fact that they are seperate nations. For your information those Soviets were the biggest dope pushers ever, and they still lost to us.

By my count the countries of the former Soviet Union have 127 medals to the US 95, a margin of 32 medals. Good thing the cold war is over of the Americans would be sadly embarrassed.

BTW 95 medals for one nation isn't too shabby.

Ok, but I think it is even more important to see that countries like the Netherlands beat the US in medalls/pro capita. They even beat the Germans and French.Think they'll have about 26 at the end with 16 million, compare this with the US 95 with how much people? 280 million. Wow that is a shame for the US. The former USSR loses to against them.

Same for the French and Germans against the US/USSR, they both win in medals pro capita.

Hmm must say that I am a little bit jalous towards the Dutch. They do it with less money pro athlete compared to the US and still perform better. Perhaps they have better genetic material. Must be (allhough I saw at my last visit that they also eat rather much Mc Crap).

BTW 95 medals for one nation isn't too shabby.
Still, the we should be well over that number right now. Our olympic performance, while still the best out of any country, was shabbier than it should have been.

Hey idiot, when did the USSR ever crush us at the summer olympics? .


Well, they did often. In Athletics (but like most US athletes doped to), fight sports and (but not sure) even once in Basket, also in Gymnastics and many other sports.

OK, the US allways will win in Softball and Beachvolley against them, but those are a lifestyle, not sport.

Still, the we should be well over that number right now. Our olympic performance, while still the best out of any country, was shabbier than it should have been.


What went wrong for the US there? Normally, you guys have more" medals!
I know that some good athletes were cought on doping, but appart of the dreamteam, I still saw a verry good performance of the delegation.

.... For your information those Soviets were the biggest dope pushers ever....and today...they no longer are???

Back in 1988 in Seoul, didn't a similar distribution of medals occur, about 130 medals for the USSR to about 95 for America? In fact, I think you have to go back to the Mexico City olympics back in '68 to find one where the USA beat the USSR in the summer.

What went wrong for the US there? Normally, you guys have more" medals!
I know that some good athletes were cought on doping, but appart of the dreamteam, I still saw a verry good performance of the delegation.
Basketball was obviously a disappointment, but also in boxing, diving, and womens track and field (Marion Jones + Devers were both flops this year) we were expected to do much better by most people, instead we came home empty handed for a good number of events.

and today...they no longer are???


Must be them and the US (remember all the athletes that were cought before the games). I was terified when my youth hero Carl Lewis admited that he used products. Just like the former east block and the USSR, we must see most US medals in doping sports like running with a big (?). that to goes for some EU athletes (rememeber oll. Limford Christie, the Greeks aso.)

For me the biggest ones are the lesser gods that end at place 5 or 6 in the finals with a clean body. Better 6th and clean then 1,2,3 and doped.
Pitty that you don't buy anything with it...

By my count the countries of the former Soviet Union have 127 medals to the US 95, a margin of 32 medals. Good thing the cold war is over of the Americans would be sadly embarrassed.
Hey Ernst, hte former soviet Union has like way more countries than we do. We have 1 they have like 20. Good for all those countries, but hte US stiill kicks ass.

Must be them and the US (remember all the athletes that were cought before the games). I was terified when my youth hero Carl Lewis admited that he used products. Just like the former east block and the USSR, we must see most US medals in doping sports like running with a big (?). that to goes for some EU athletes (rememeber oll. Limford Christie, the Greeks aso.)

For me the biggest ones are the lesser gods that end at place 5 or 6 in the finals with a clean body. Better 6th and clean then 1,2,3 and doped.
Pitty that you don't buy anything with it...
Olympic Records thanks to the Doctors...They are the ones who should get the medals :D
"...And now we award this Gold medal to Doctor Ferrari from East-Germany...Please all stand up For the East-German National Anthem...."

Ok, but I think it is even more important to see that countries like the Netherlands beat the US in medalls/pro capita. They even beat the Germans and French.Think they'll have about 26 at the end with 16 million, compare this with the US 95 with how much people? 280 million. Wow that is a shame for the US. The former USSR loses to against them.

Same for the French and Germans against the US/USSR, they both win in medals pro capita.

Hmm must say that I am a little bit jalous towards the Dutch. They do it with less money pro athlete compared to the US and still perform better. Perhaps they have better genetic material. Must be (allhough I saw at my last visit that they also eat rather much Mc Crap).

And the only people who count medals per capita are the ones who never win the medal count. If you go by total medals of all time then the US would trump all others with 2197 medals.

Basketball was obviously a disappointment, but also in boxing, diving, and womens track and field (Marion Jones + Devers were both flops this year) we were expected to do much better by most people, instead we came home empty handed for a good number of events.

Yeah saw the 4x100m., bad luck fror them, the Belgians were allready happy with a final and 6th place (thank's to godess Kim Gevaert). Boxing was quoite dominated by Cubans and some people that came from ex USSR places, saw some. But I think that there is a gap between the ammateur boxingsport in the Games (wich I prefer since more spectacle) and the professional heavy weight things that we can see normally on TV.

Diving had to be much better for the US. Swimming was OK but Phelps is not Mark Spitz, he lost the king number like the 100m. (allthough some press tried to make the 200m. the most important because of his chances ).


A positive (non doping) note: you can be sure that the US will have more medals next time.

But I think that the Chines want to winn alll medals next time, the way they select young children and take them awayfrom their families at very young age is undone in the West and will be hard to battle next time.

I think that China (from what I saw in their preparation) will be The Nation to combat in 2008.

And the only people who count medals per capita are the ones who never win the medal count. If you go by total medals of all time then the US would trump all others with 2197 medals.

1st, I don't think that there are nations in the EU withouth medalls, certainly not mine.
2. You don't get it, would be easy to compare the medals of the EU with the US. Also the all times ones. Since we are a union, we can compare them (your logic). Pro capita: you lose. US versus EU: you lose (and each of those countries performes better compared pro capita, the only thing that realy counts).
3. You must be an idiot to compare the US for example with Albania or Luxemburg :gundge: :p When you talk economics, you also compare the BNP pro capita between nations, the only standard.

4. But I understand that you don't understand it. :rolleyes: For a US versus other nations discussion: go to another topic. Auf wiederschnitzel, salut en de kost, bye a.h.

per capita

It's "pro capita " :rolleyes:

1st, I don't think that there are nations in the EU withouth medalls, certainly not mine.
2. You don't get it, would be easy to compare the medals of the EU with the US. Also the all times ones. Since we are a union, we can compare them (your logic). Pro capita: you lose. US versus EU: you lose (and each of those countries performes better compared pro capita, the only thing that realy counts).
3. You must be an idiot to compare the US for example with Albania or Luxemburg :gundge: :p When you talk economics, you also compare the BNP pro capita between nations, the only standard.

4. But I understand that you don't understand it. :rolleyes: For a US versus other nations discussion: go to another topic. Auf wiederschnitzel, salut en de kost, bye a.h.

But I understand that your use of the English language is not very good, thus you cannot make your point. When was I talking about economics? This is sports related. All I'm saying is that we have the most medals, therefore we win. Go ahead and speak your language, btw Podex Perfectus Es.

It's "pro capita " :rolleyes:

It's per capita!

As in per person!

Doctor Ferrari from East-Germany

Hey, you know that there is a well knowed doping doctor in cycling? It is Ferrara and he worked for a lot of famous athletes from wich some of them where cought. He even worked a while with Lance A.

He is Italian and drives a Ferrari(Vroop, Vroom, vroom)

It's per capita!

As in per person!
Potatos ... Potatoes .. :D

It's per capita!

As in per person!


Back to basics boy .
Since it is Latin, it is "Pro" and never the in Latin not correct "Per" You see, even US English has some Latin, alltough you use slang (per) it's allready 2000 years "pro" and will stay so. Unless that a kid like you thinks that Latin is a redneck slang :rolleyes:


But back to sport, keep on making me smilling.

Hey, you know that there is a well knowed doping doctor in cycling? It is Ferrara and he worked for a lot of famous athletes from wich some of them where cought. He even worked a while with Lance A.

He is Italian and drives a Ferrari(Vroop, Vroom, vroom)I know....

You noticed(my subtle name game)...means you are well informed...

Diving had to be much better for the US. Swimming was OK but Phelps is not Mark Spitz, he lost the king number like the 100m. (allthough some press tried to make the 200m. the most important because of his chances ).


What are you talking about? We kicked butt in the pool this year. Sure diving wasn't that great, but who cares about diving. It's not a sport, it is a skill. Phelps isn't Spitz, but then again he is only 19 and doesn't lift weights yet. Wait till 2008, you may see him break Spitzs' record then. Phelps didn't fall short of anything he has a nice handfull of medals to take home with him.

What are you talking about? We kicked but in the pool this year. Sure diving wasn't that great, but who cares about diving. It's not a sport, it is a skill. Phelps isn't Spitz, but then again he is only 19 and doesn't lift weights yet. Wait till 2008, you may see him break Spitzs' record then. Phelps didn't fall short of anything he has a nice handfull of medals to take home with him.
Yeah, Spitz got his record-setting number of medals on his second trip to the olypmics, IIRC. Its not unreasonable to expect that Phelps will have a better shot at the record in four years, although certainly its a tough thing to get.

I know....

You noticed(my subtle name game)...means you are well informed...

I don't know how it is in any country but people that are cought or sell doping in France fall under drug legislation and are put in prison during and before trial. They must do it everywhere like this. Worldchamp mountainbike "Meirhaege, Belgian" was cought a month before the games. The guy was not seeking an excuse and admited it after it's out of competition control by Belgian officials. He stopped his carreer immediatly. Most cycling people or other athletes denie or blame others, quit foolish. A top athlete must know wich stuff goes through the needle...

Go ahead and speak your language, btw Podex Perfectus Es. (indeed, nice one)

*Bows his head* Ok kan je volgen als ik Vlaams/ Nederlands spreek :) Ou plutôt le Français?

Guess we better continue in English before they accuse me again of speaking another tongue then English :)

I don't know how it is in any country but people that are cought or sell doping in France fall under drug legislation and are put in prison during and before trial. ...Hormones, Estoroids, Creatine, and other suplements are legal in most Countries....

But I understand that your use of the English language is not very good, thus you cannot make your point. When was I talking about economics? This is sports related. All I'm saying is that we have the most medals, therefore we win. Go ahead and speak your language, btw Podex Perfectus Es.
YA! EITHER CONFORM TO THE LANGUAGE OF AMERICANS OR YOU CANT MAKE POINTS!

GOD bless america!

(and for no reason what-so-ever, heres a bio terrorism smiley)
:gundge:

Back to basics boy .
Since it is Latin, it is "Pro" and never the in Latin not correct "Per" You see, even US English has some Latin, alltough you use slang (per) it's allready 2000 years "pro" and will stay so. Unless that a kid like you thinks that Latin is a redneck slang :rolleyes:


But back to sport, keep on making me smilling.

You're lecturing me on my English? hahaha!!! Nice try, "keep on making me smilling"! Per Capita is in common use in the English world so get over it.

Latin is a redneck slang? Nope not really, but I did take and master Latin for 4 years in High School. So here you go: Utinam barbari spatium proprium tuum invadant, or Morologus es!

BTW Tace atque abi!

Go USA, USA #1

Per Capita.
Yes, I'm an American, but you didn't break it down. Per means divided by. So take the number and divide by "capita" (latin root is "Cap" like head, right?).
Anywho, only one other person has mentioned the Chinese in this thread. You know, they don't have too as many medals as the United States, but they had more gold. Until a day or two ago.
G S B Total
1 USA 32 38 27 97
2 CHN 29 17 13 59
3 RUS 22 24 33 79
4 AUS 17 14 16 47
5 JPN 15 10 11 36
6 GER 14 15 18 47

The site doesn't tell how many events have been participated in by each country (probably so that they can sway the information the American's Way).

Why should the medals be counted per capita - that doesnt have to do with anything.
Some countries are big and others are small - that can't be changed so it shouldn't count in the Olympics.
It's all about strength in numbers and economy.
U.S. has the strongest economy, so it is able to maintain a very strong athletic program. Russia is not as strong as the U.S. but it does have a huge population which provides many talented athletes.
And even if the USSR still existed, it wouldn't get that many medals because you can only enter a certain number of athletes in each event - so the athletes who won medals for Russia or the Eastern European countries this year might have just been bench-warmers. :gundge:

You're lecturing me on my English? hahaha!!!
Your words, I was speeking about the language from wich you google quotes.


Latin is a redneck slang?
The way you speak it or think that it is a US invention (PER CAPITA) instead of "PRO CAPITA", again no "Per" in this form of Latin, "per" sounds as fake like any traduction of it in other tongues: French (mostly "pro", German aso.).


I did take and master Latin for 4 years in High SchooL.


Yeah, high school :rolleyes: Beate paupere spiritu est.



Go USA, USA #1

Why not, somebody flaiming the US in this sport thing or so? (in origin it was about sport, until you came) but you are somewhere (the high school ass?) unhappy.
Please High School boy, don't darken my doorstep again because here: Cave canem! (don't need a google search like you, still have good thoughts about my Latin classes with Asterix in Latin, try it).

I don't know how it is in any country but people that are cought or sell doping in France fall under drug legislation and are put in prison during and before trial. They must do it everywhere like this. Worldchamp mountainbike "Meirhaege, Belgian" was cought a month before the games. The guy was not seeking an excuse and admited it after it's out of competition control by Belgian officials. He stopped his carreer immediatly. Most cycling people or other athletes denie or blame others, quit foolish. A top athlete must know wich stuff goes through the needle...\
1. Don't try to set up france as some kind of model for the rest of the world. It all falls apart in the execution or lack of execution.
2. It's per capita in the United States.
3. No one is impressed by your ability to speak multiple languages, that just shows an inability for your culture to rise above any other. If you are french, you will be speaking arabic soon anyways.
4. No one is impressed by you, you should not confuse not education with your intelligence.

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3. No one is impressed by your ability to speak multiple languages,

Are you disturbed or just jalouse? Why are people like you such assholes and try to interfere with a political agenda :rolleyes:

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that just shows an inability for your culture to rise above any other. If you are french, you will be speaking arabic soon anyways.

How nice of you to spread your stupid hate against the ones that made the US possible (Yorktown, oooow, this hurts the neocon revisionist hart isn't it?).

Tell it to the French but for dummies like you everything that is not US is automaticly French, you just gave us an example of your superior intelligence.
Abble to speak French =French= Canadian= our enemies :rolleyes:

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4. No one is impressed by you, you should not confuse not education with your intelligence.

I don't confuse, you do by this post.
BTW, nobody is indeed impressed by you.You try tomake a sport post a US versus the world topic. Since you did not read the topic and your ass only warms because of a fellow gay (nothing against them) nationalist and is not capable to talk about sport without his propaganda, I'll leave ya here. You really need some prof. help, this topic was about sport before you and your boyfriend hopped in...

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you should not confuse not education with

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I don't understand the double negation. Spreek jij "Afrikaans" Well, we can speak Afrikaans then together ;) Of wil je nie weet nie hoe dat klinkt?

You're wrong about the medal count at this Olympics, because the Soviet Union's former countries don't get counted into one big medal total, so, basically, you're wrong.

US: 98
Russia: 82
China: 61

4. No one is impressed by you, you should not confuse your education with your intelligence. Thanks for correcting me in a language in which you don't even have a tenuous grasp of the basics. Now that you are done spewing your unintelligible brain-vomit all over everyone’s screens, what exactly did you mean by all of that? It was about as understandable as a two-year-old writing on the wall in his own crap. Are you always so stupid or is today a special occasion? Calling you stupid would be an insult to stupid people. Can someone, anyone, translate that mess for me? I only speak American and Mexican, cuz I'm a dumb American.

I make love to elitists

You're wrong about the medal count at this Olympics,

Who is?
Who count's them together?
BTW, the States of the USA count them together, if this Union can why can't other unions with federal laws in sport like the EU?
BTW, I only compare the medal/pro capita. If not it would be easy to compare the complete EU with others, they would allways win.
Think that the quality of sport can be compared like the BNP. if not, it would mean that countries like Luxemburg, Portugal aso..would be less sportive then for example the US or China.

The US performs for example better then China pro citizen, but not better then the Netherlands (they impressed me again) or France or even far better then all those: Australia!

, cuz I'm a dumb American.

Why do you flaime at Americans? Most of them are more intelligent then you.
You don't have to be jalouse at your countrymen that speek more then one language. "Mexican" :rolleyes: guess you mean Spanish.Your diaroeha of words that spoiled all the screens just showed your low levell :D :gundge:

Toch eens Afrikaans probere, of zal het niet werk niet :p

Why do you flaime at Americans? Most of them are more intelligent then you.
You don't have to be jalouse at your countrymen that speek more then one language. "Mexican" :rolleyes: guess you mean Spanish.Your diaroeha of words that spoiled all the screens just showed your low levell :D :gundge:

Toch eens Afrikaans probere, of zal het niet werk niet :p
Have you considered suing your brains for nonsupport?

Have you considered suing your brains for nonsupport?

Versta ineens geen rednecks meer :gundge: Wat een dommerik :rolleyes: Was nochtans interessant voor hij zijn slechte adem verspreide.

Volgens mij is Friends of Bill het hoertje van de pooiers aan het Noord :p

BTW, the States of the USA count them together, if this Union can why can't other unions with federal laws in sport like the EU?
Do you see athletes in the olympics representing Massachusettes, Pennsylvania, New York, Texas, ect. or the USA? On the flip side, do they represent France, Germany, the Netherlands, Spain, or the EU? Thats why the EU's medals aren't counted together.

Versta ineens geen rednecks meer :gundge: Wat een dommerik :rolleyes: Was nochtans interessant voor hij zijn slechte adem verspreide.

Volgens mij is Friends of Bill het hoertje van de pooiers aan het Noord :p
When you die, you should have your brain donated to science. I hear they're trying to come up with the perfect vacuum.

Who count's them together?

The original poster of this thread, read it before you rebuke me.

Do you see athletes in the olympics representing Massachusettes, Pennsylvania, New York, Texas, ect. or the USA? On the flip side, do they represent France, Germany, the Netherlands, Spain, or the EU? Thats why the EU's medals aren't counted together.

Of course not Kwangistar. Just reacting at the moron that spoiled the post. Like I said "US performes better the China aso" But just saying that the sportive valure (?) can't be counted in Olympc medals because then only the most poppulated will win against for example Portugal or Australia. Think it is better to use a standard like medalls/pro capita.

And even in this , i must say that medalls/pro capita aren't everything. The US,French, German sporteducation is non, existant in some EU countries, so those EU countries are allready less interested in Sport (budgets of some EU countries are ridiculous).

BTW, what about my sports? OK we've Winterolympics (off course the ski disciplins) but I did not see Iceclimbing and I did not see mountaineering in summergames, alltough i know that at the last Worldchampionship in Russia some 6 persons died (in the Elbruz area). Ok there is rockclimbin,g in climbinghalls now (Lyn Hill, Muriel Sarcany aso..) but it is still not a sport for Olympics and whil never be.

It's not a valid point. The former USSR wouldn't have sent nearly as many athletes as the combined nations do now. They would have sent fewer better athletes to maximize the chances of winning gold. The 15 nations of the former USSR instead each send their own best athletes in hopes of winning. Alot of the people that some of these nations send wouldn't have made the Soviet Olympic teams.

BTW, what about my sports? OK we've Winterolympics (off course the ski disciplins) but I did not see Iceclimbing and I did not see mountaineering in summergames, alltough i know that at the last Worldchampionship in Russia some 6 persons died (in the Elbruz area). Ok there is rockclimbin,g in climbinghalls now (Lyn Hill, Muriel Sarcany aso..) but it is still not a sport for Olympics and whil never be.

I doubt the IOC would be too keen on including sports where the participants regularly die during competition.

When you die, you should have your brain donated to science. I hear they're trying to come up with the perfect vacuum.
randdebiel

Your words, I was speeking about the language from wich you google quotes.


The way you speak it or think that it is a US invention (PER CAPITA) instead of "PRO CAPITA", again no "Per" in this form of Latin, "per" sounds as fake like any traduction of it in other tongues: French (mostly "pro", German aso.).



Yeah, high school :rolleyes: Beate paupere spiritu est.




Why not, somebody flaiming the US in this sport thing or so? (in origin it was about sport, until you came) but you are somewhere (the high school ass?) unhappy.
Please High School boy, don't darken my doorstep again because here: Cave canem! (don't need a google search like you, still have good thoughts about my Latin classes with Asterix in Latin, try it).


Well whatever you were trying to type, I'm sure it was clever and all. BTW maybe you should google your whole statement, that way I could comprehend what you are trying to say! ;) I don't have to google my latin. BTW what the heck is an Asterix in Latin? Should I care. Oh and I'm not in HS you monkey, I just got out of the marines after I got hurt in Iraq.

The US is still the top nation for sports, so go eat some crow you European Egghead!

Yet it sucks within the field of the worlds most popular sport.

[QUOTE=MoeHoward] I just got out of the marines after I got hurt in Iraq.

QUOTE]

Hargh Hargh hargh :rolleyes: lier. Long before you arived at NS we allready know your kind of fakers.

If there is a place where you can be hurt then it is your ass, but that is/was your choice. And I don't discriminate you for that.

The US is still the top nation for sports, so go eat some crow you European Egghead!


Again, high school kid, read all posts, it is not about US versus the rest. But boys like you try to trigger, that is for sure. BTW, how is your ass? Tell your boyfriend that you aren't a horse and that what you guys do is Olympic but only for the ancient Greeks. :p

randdebiel

Inderdaad , kon men vergelijking tss Nederland en de madailles pro capita in zijn land maar moeilijk slikken (slikproblemen heefthij wel meer). Vraag me af of hij jouw woord gaat googelen of hebben we hier een Engelse variant voor? ;)

Again, high school kid, read all posts, it is not about US versus the rest. But boys like you try to trigger, that is for sure. BTW, how is your ass? Tell your boyfriend that you aren't a horse and that what you guys do is Olympic but only for the ancient Greeks. :p

I never said it was the US against the rest moron. You need to learn how to understand English before you should debate. I'll send you hooked on phonics if you like. Hahaha, with your silly mush mouth language (Dutch) you sound more like a fruit then I ever will. BTW how many of your friends have you blown. :fluffle:

Inderdaad , kon men vergelijking tss Nederland en de madailles pro capita in zijn land maar moeilijk slikken (slikproblemen heefthij wel meer). Vraag me af of hij jouw woord gaat googelen of hebben we hier een Engelse variant voor? ;)

Hey you're starting to sound like a fruit again.

Inderdaad , kon men vergelijking tss Nederland en de madailles pro capita in zijn land maar moeilijk slikken (slikproblemen heefthij wel meer). Vraag me af of hij jouw woord gaat googelen of hebben we hier een Engelse variant voor? ;)
hij mag het proberen :D

Mr Basil Fawlty looks like this:

Mr Basil (http://majesticmoose.net/photography/amstelveld/img_3377_desat)

Way to go weirdo!

(Dutch) :

Toont zijn diaree intellect es weer, Vlaams :p Aber das ist das selbste führ unsern kleinen Drecksack. Beuh,the smell :confused:

Mr Basil Fawlty looks like this:

http://http://www.eleves.ens.fr/home/jguieu/newsletter12/eurotrash.JPG
a red X :confused:

Mr Basil Fawlty looks like this:

http://http://www.eleves.ens.fr/home/jguieu/newsletter12/eurotrash.JPG

Sorry kiddo, cannot open it but you can open this:your boyfriend is in it.


http://www.bushflash.com/ihr.html. Gotta love that

Yet it sucks within the field of the worlds most popular sport.

Football? We did quite well in the last World Cup.

And from your late father:

http://www.atmo.se/zino.aspx?pageID...482articleID=399

You'll lik to see your failly, go to the disco führer!( read my lips section) :p Must be the most pure republican.

Sorry kiddo, cannot open it but you can open this:your boyfriend is in it.


http://www.bushflash.com/ihr.html. Gotta love that

Check out my edit retard. BTW your bf is in this:

Many colors in your homo rainbow (http://www.eurogames.info/1996/stahmer_english.html)

Why don't you learn English, then post again?

Football? We did quite well in the last World Cup.

Yep and the US girls where at the best in the Olympics, they've beaten great teams and are on the world top now.

And from your late father:

http://www.atmo.se/zino.aspx?pageID...482articleID=399

You'll lik to see your failly, go to the disco führer!( read my lips section) :p Must be the most pure republican.


"You'll lik to see your failly". You want to lick my fanny? Sorry but no thanks, I don't go that way.

Check out my edit retard. BTW your bf is in this:

Many colors in your homo rainbow (http://www.eurogames.info/1996/stahmer_english.html)

Why don't you learn English, then post again?
Euh, (did not open your familly album) like sais first, you guys are from the Greek art. BTW, still did not find your uncle Adolf's ashes :p

Check out my edit retard. BTW your bf is in this:

Many colors in your homo rainbow (http://www.eurogames.info/1996/stahmer_english.html)

Why don't you learn English, then post again?
learn dutch, apenjong.

what's this thread about again? Oh right...how about NATO vs. Warsaw Pact countries?

learn dutch, apenjong.

Not possible HC,the boy is on dope (stops the pain from his uncle in his ass a bit), but still, his German (extreme) republican uncle was quite a discofreak.

http://www.atmo.se/zino.aspx?pageID...482articleID=399 (read my lips, führer)

By my count the countries of the former Soviet Union have 127 medals to the US 95, a margin of 32 medals. Good thing the cold war is over of the Americans would be sadly embarrassed.
That's because the US is just one country, whereas the former Soviet Union is comprised of fourteen different countries.

What are you really trying to say?

learn dutch, apenjong.

Why learn dutch? Not really much of a need for it in today's world. Try English, you can get further in life.

Not possible HC,the boy is on dope (stops the pain from in his ass a bit), but still, his German (extreme) republican uncle was quite a discofreak.

http://www.atmo.se/zino.aspx?pageID...482articleID=399 (read my lips, führer)

Sorry dutch boy, but if Hitler was a Republican then I'll vote for Kerry. Hmm, Republicans like people to keep arms. Did Hitler? I think not dutch boy. Btw if you stopped jerking your bf's gerkin you might be able to type English better.

what really ticks me off is that sorehead russian gymnast svetlana whatshername. Although I liked the news headline I saw- " Russian diva pouts in retirement". Oh, and this whole thing with Paul Hamm- He won, so get over it south korea.

what really ticks me off is that sorehead russian gymnast svetlana whatshername. Although I liked the news headline I saw- " Russian diva pouts in retirement". Oh, and this whole thing with Paul Hamm- He won, so get over it south korea.

Nice point!

USA USA USA

what really ticks me off is that sorehead russian gymnast svetlana whatshername. Although I liked the news headline I saw- " Russian diva pouts in retirement". Oh, and this whole thing with Paul Hamm- He won, so get over it south korea.

Indeed. Svetlana Khorkina could take a few pointers on sportsmanship from Aleksei Nemov.

And no, the argument at the beginning of the thread is not valid. Multiple countries -> more athletes -> greater chance of winning medals.

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Ok, but I think it is even more important to see that countries like the Netherlands beat the US in medalls/pro capita. They even beat the Germans and French.Think they'll have about 26 at the end with 16 million, compare this with the US 95 with how much people? 280 million. Wow that is a shame for the US. The former USSR loses to against them.

Same for the French and Germans against the US/USSR, they both win in medals pro capita.

Hmm must say that I am a little bit jalous towards the Dutch. They do it with less money pro athlete compared to the US and still perform better. Perhaps they have better genetic material. Must be (allhough I saw at my last visit that they also eat rather much Mc Crap).

Per capita doesn't matter. Number of athletes in the team does. Example: US has 95, Canada 12. Canada has 3/5 as many athletes (Translation: Canada sucks).

Yeah, so like I was saying a long time ago, the US Men's soccer team did really well in the last World Cup, right?

Well, if were going to count former Soviet states medals totaled (20 something nations, I think), how about we count all the NATO medals as one country? EU? How about WTO?

Per capita doesn't matter. Number of athletes in the team does. Example: US has 95, Canada 12. Canada has 3/5 as many athletes (Translation: Canada sucks).

In a thread where three people were just warned for flaming, do you think it wise to encourage more flaming?

How the hell did I encourage flaming? I offered a logical argument followed by a joke. I live in Canada.

How the hell did I encourage flaming? I offered a logical argument followed by a joke. I live in Canada.

Ah. My apologies. Still, saying Canada sucks is going to draw attacks. I was just thinking it wouldn't be wise.

No problem. I'm a dual citizen, to be precise.

Yeah, so like I was saying a long time ago, the US Men's soccer team did really well in the last World Cup, right?

Yes. Claudio Reyna is my hero.

By my count the countries of the former Soviet Union have 127 medals to the US 95, a margin of 32 medals. Good thing the cold war is over of the Americans would be sadly embarrassed.Quite wrong, if the Ussr were still a single entitity, which the leaders and the people of those countries were too smart to remain, they would hae sent onlt one quarter of the number of atheletes and teams that were sent by the areas formerly a part of the USSR. They would have had 3/4 fewer entries and won 3/4 fewer medals.

How would they have won 3/4 fewer medals? In that hypothetical scenario, Wouldn't they have sent just those people who won the medals this time?

... how about we count all the NATO medals as one country? EU? How about WTO?

How about we counted all the medals the UN would have won and get over it?

Sounds good to me.
Lets see...theres five nations not in the UN?

How would they have won 3/4 fewer medals? In that hypothetical scenario, Wouldn't they have sent just those people who won the medals this time?

There's still an element of chance in any Olympic competition (witness Mariel Zagunis, who almost didn't make the U.S. team, winning women's sabre gold), and having a greater number of people helps with that. I certainly wouldn't suggest, as the previous poster did, that a modern "USSR" team would have won a full 75% fewer medals than the individual countries won, but it's likely that without so many people competing, they would have won fewer than the U.S.

Quite wrong, if the Ussr were still a single entitity, which the leaders and the people of those countries were too smart to remain, they would hae sent onlt one quarter of the number of atheletes and teams that were sent by the areas formerly a part of the USSR. They would have had 3/4 fewer entries and won 3/4 fewer medals.

Correct on the numbers. I was going to post the same thing but checked the end before posting.....

Besides people, the olympics are not supposed to be about nationalism. That is not what the Barron wanted them to be.

But I live in the myth. The boycots show that nationalism is very much part of the games. :(