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why's bush evil anyway?

Star Shadow-
28-08-2004, 13:41
I mean I know that you think hes stuipd and a greedy intlectual conspircist MKULTAR so whys he evil?
Fox Hills
28-08-2004, 13:43
Because his political views differ from most here and because of the iraq war i guess.
Star Shadow-
28-08-2004, 13:48
Because his political views differ from most here and because of the iraq war i guess.
nice answer oh and I forgot you hate him becasue hes HUMAN, mortal, doesn't have perfect foresigh ect. and Kerry well I'm not going to it here.
Sevaris
28-08-2004, 13:51
Bush is a good man, however, he's being manipulated by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, etc. Bush is a puppet for the extreme-right.
Gymoor
28-08-2004, 13:54
I think it's because Bush has never had to earn a thing in his life. He got into school because of his family connections, he got into the Air National Guard because of his family connections, and was able to shirk his duty there. He had run-ins with the law, but never had to face any repercussions. He's a many-time failed businessman who was always bailed out, and now he's able to work his reckless agenda without fear of reprisal with the world's most powerful military at his disposal.

Also, he wasn't hugged sufficiently as a child. And perhaps his parents were too strict with the potty training.
Enodscopia
28-08-2004, 13:59
They hate him because he doesn't speak well and he doesn't like the queers.
Star Shadow-
28-08-2004, 13:59
Bush is a good man, however, he's being manipulated by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, etc. Bush is a puppet for the extreme-right.
The Extreme Right Hate bush okay they think we should have bombed baghdad okay you don't know the extreme right, I hate them more then I hate extreme lefteis.
Fox Hills
28-08-2004, 14:01
:rolleyes: yeah too bad im a conservative and i said maybe " they " think.
Nulands
28-08-2004, 14:01
Bush is a good man, however, he's being manipulated by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, etc. Bush is a puppet for the extreme-right.

could yo maybe explain how a 'good man' ,as you put it, allows to be manipulated to cause such dreadful outcomes?..
Olomay
28-08-2004, 14:07
He does seem pretty eager to be the 'puppet' but again he's not particularly intelligent, and he seems to be incredibly insensitive and insincere ie. saying he supports his troops but at the same time supports decreasing their wages, benefits for their families etc ; again this could just him being led by others.

I get the feeling Dick Cheney is pretty evil, or at the very least he's a manipulative, greedy, warmongerer. What was my point again?
Fox Hills
28-08-2004, 14:08
I personally think we would be better under John Mc Cain, but since we have GW Bush, I will vote for him.
Scarlet Water
28-08-2004, 14:10
people over use the word 'evil', he is not evil! eventhough i think he is a prat i dont think he is in anyway evil! just because he had made a lot of mistakes (he is human after all) and because he has strong views on certain topics that anger alot of people, (gay marrage for instance) he is trying his best and we shouldn't be so hard on the man! *but i do think my pet cat could do a better job than he is!*
Olomay
28-08-2004, 14:12
You vote for him out of what? Some twisted sense of obligation to the rightwing?

(referring to fox's post)
Willow of the Trees
28-08-2004, 14:19
Just one second. i know everyone has a right to say what they want, free speech and all, and I support that. Theres a way to intelligently disagree with someones beliefs and actions in office without calling the man evil! Has he committed mass murder? Has he insisted Americans slaughter thier first born child? Of course not, thats absurd. And yet hes being called evil when a past president who had an adulterous affair-lied about it- is selling books? I can't belive the bias title and opinions in this thread.
Fox Hills
28-08-2004, 14:23
You vote for him out of what? Some twisted sense of obligation to the rightwing?

(referring to fox's post)
No, because frankly I dont agree with John Kerry on many issues, especially raising my taxes. for one.
Gymoor
28-08-2004, 14:42
No, because frankly I dont agree with John Kerry on many issues, especially raising my taxes. for one.

Oh, are you rich?
Kerry has actually promised to lower the tax burden on the middle class. And as for the Republicans lowering taxes, well, they increased spending, which means taxes will have to be raised. The deficit just means they have put it off. And since it's a record deficit...well, you do the math.
Also, since costs are up and wages are down under the Republicans, lower taxes don't mean a whole lot, do they?
Nulands
28-08-2004, 14:53
Just one second. i know everyone has a right to say what they want, free speech and all, and I support that. Theres a way to intelligently disagree with someones beliefs and actions in office without calling the man evil! Has he committed mass murder? Has he insisted Americans slaughter thier first born child? Of course not, thats absurd. And yet hes being called evil when a past president who had an adulterous affair-lied about it- is selling books? I can't belive the bias title and opinions in this thread.

err...
i think you'll find has has commited mass murder (ok , so maybe he wasnt holding the gun...)
on various occasions.
is this in any way comparable to having adulterous affair??
MoeHoward
28-08-2004, 20:41
Just keep thinking he is stupid and you will be mad again in November. Let's face it Kerry isn't the brightest bulb in the socket either. He just wants to be the next JFK, plus he is an elitist. Algore was such a smart man but he "lost" to a dullard. Says a lot about a candidate when he can't win an election after 8 years as a VP of a "popular" president (and when he couldn't even win his own state). Keep underestimating Bush and you will have 4 more years of W. He is not as stupid as the left would have you believe. You should remember that early in W's political career in Texas he lost an election because the local voters thought he was too smart and snobbish.
MoeHoward
28-08-2004, 20:44
err...
i think you'll find has has commited mass murder (ok , so maybe he wasnt holding the gun...)
on various occasions.
is this in any way comparable to having adulterous affair??

Clinton committed many acts of mass murder: for ex. Waco, Vincent Foster! ;)
NeLi II
28-08-2004, 20:46
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Goed
28-08-2004, 23:23
he's not evil. He's a selfish, idiot rat bastard. But he's not evil.


In fact, I think it can all come down to one thing: when it comes to successfully running a country, he's simply incompetent.
Fox Hills
29-08-2004, 04:43
Oh, are you rich?
Kerry has actually promised to lower the tax burden on the middle class. And as for the Republicans lowering taxes, well, they increased spending, which means taxes will have to be raised. The deficit just means they have put it off. And since it's a record deficit...well, you do the math.
Also, since costs are up and wages are down under the Republicans, lower taxes don't mean a whole lot, do they?

Why should the people who have the most spending power be taxed more than everyone else? And secondly, no im not rich. And thirdly, I dont like what Kerry is gonna do with the military which effects me directly
Lunatic Goofballs
29-08-2004, 04:51
He's not evil. He's just misunderstood. ;)
Nehek-Nehek
29-08-2004, 05:02
Just one second. i know everyone has a right to say what they want, free speech and all, and I support that. Theres a way to intelligently disagree with someones beliefs and actions in office without calling the man evil! Has he committed mass murder? Has he insisted Americans slaughter thier first born child? Of course not, thats absurd. And yet hes being called evil when a past president who had an adulterous affair-lied about it- is selling books? I can't belive the bias title and opinions in this thread.

That's the point, fucktard. HE DID COMMIT MASS MURDER! HE IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF FOUR THOUSAND AMERICANS AND TWELVE THOUSAND IRAQIS! Oh, and there's losing more jobs than any president in history, having the lowest IQ of any president in history, trampling all over the constitution, signing up for the Guard to avoid going to Vietnam and then going AWOL after refusing a drug test, and presiding over the largest economic crash since the 30's. It doesn't fucking matter who Clinton fucked, because that has nothing whatsoever to do with his ability to run a country. The Republicans had them spend millions of taxpayer dollars in order to discredit the Democrats.
Soffish
29-08-2004, 05:30
That's the point, fucktard. HE DID COMMIT MASS MURDER! HE IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF FOUR THOUSAND AMERICANS AND TWELVE THOUSAND IRAQIS! Oh, and there's losing more jobs than any president in history, having the lowest IQ of any president in history, trampling all over the constitution, signing up for the Guard to avoid going to Vietnam and then going AWOL after refusing a drug test, and presiding over the largest economic crash since the 30's. It doesn't fucking matter who Clinton fucked, because that has nothing whatsoever to do with his ability to run a country. The Republicans had them spend millions of taxpayer dollars in order to discredit the Democrats.


4 thousand Americans? That would only be close to accurate if you are stating that Bush was responsible for September 11th. You liberals say that Bush was responsible for 9/11, but Clinton gave us the army. And Saddam killed millions of Iraqis, and all of those alive are better of than they would be otherwise. The recesion was started for the last 6 MONTHS of CLINTONS term. The claims of him going AWOL have been refuted on numerious occasions, unlike Kerry's records where only 6 of about 100 pages have been released. Its also been the largest recovery to, as the economy is only a little lower than before the recesion started with CLinton. Trampling over the constitution? Show me where in the constitution it says that one man can stick his dick up another mans crack, and I will be all for it. Untill then, please shut up and get your facts straight.
TrpnOut
29-08-2004, 08:39
That's the point, fucktard. HE DID COMMIT MASS MURDER! HE IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF FOUR THOUSAND AMERICANS AND TWELVE THOUSAND IRAQIS! Oh, and there's losing more jobs than any president in history, having the lowest IQ of any president in history, trampling all over the constitution, signing up for the Guard to avoid going to Vietnam and then going AWOL after refusing a drug test, and presiding over the largest economic crash since the 30's. It doesn't fucking matter who Clinton fucked, because that has nothing whatsoever to do with his ability to run a country. The Republicans had them spend millions of taxpayer dollars in order to discredit the Democrats.

you shouldnt even be allowed to give your opinion.
your very ignorant as to how the economy works.
and your death toll is absurd.
Arcadian Mists
29-08-2004, 08:54
But if Bush isn't evil, how could he murder all those kittens in cold blood?

I also heard that he listens to Devil music.

"Idle hands spend time at the genitals, and we all know how much God hates that." -Ol' Drippy
TheOneRule
29-08-2004, 08:58
Oh, are you rich?
Kerry has actually promised to lower the tax burden on the middle class. And as for the Republicans lowering taxes, well, they increased spending, which means taxes will have to be raised. The deficit just means they have put it off. And since it's a record deficit...well, you do the math.
Also, since costs are up and wages are down under the Republicans, lower taxes don't mean a whole lot, do they?

As they say, there is what Kerry says, and what Kerry does. Has Kerry lowered the tax burden on the middle class yet? Nope, voted to raise taxes across the board. Has Kerry cut spending yet? Nope, he's even said he will greatly increase spending.

And if costs are up, and wages are down as you say... then without those tax cuts people would be in much worse off than they are now. Plus the economy wouldn't be rising as it is, albeit slower than hoped for.
BackwoodsSquatches
29-08-2004, 09:01
No, because frankly I dont agree with John Kerry on many issues, especially raising my taxes. for one.


Name another.

just becuase your taxes MAY get raised isnt a good reason to vote for another four more years of bush.

Unless you LIKE having 4 million americans lose thier healthcare, or that the only new jobs that have been created (and there are too few of them) make an average of 9 thousand dollars less than they should.


Whats another reason?
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:15
I mean I know that you think hes stuipd and a greedy intlectual conspircist MKULTAR so whys he evil?
hes evil cause he allowed 911 to happen for his own agenda which puts him in exactly the same boat as Osama--somoene who profits from terrorism
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:18
Just one second. i know everyone has a right to say what they want, free speech and all, and I support that. Theres a way to intelligently disagree with someones beliefs and actions in office without calling the man evil! Has he committed mass murder? Has he insisted Americans slaughter thier first born child? Of course not, thats absurd. And yet hes being called evil when a past president who had an adulterous affair-lied about it- is selling books? I can't belive the bias title and opinions in this thread.
clintons adultery was between concencual adults and hurt no one--but Bush had people murdered against their will then lied to start a war plus he wants 4 more wars and a draft
TheOneRule
29-08-2004, 09:18
hes evil cause he allowed 911 to happen for his own agenda which puts him in exactly the same boat as Osama--somoene who profits from terrorism

lol wondered when you would show up in this thread.. what took ya so long?

I personally believe you are evil incarnate.. but that's just my opinion ;)
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:21
Clinton committed many acts of mass murder: for ex. Waco, Vincent Foster! ;)
Bushs father funded terrorists thru a bank called BCCI and founded the taliban as well and let Osama run Afghanistan and even tried to murder a sitting President, Ronald Reagan
TheOneRule
29-08-2004, 09:21
clintons adultery was between concencual adults and hurt no one--but Bush had people murdered against their will then lied to start a war plus he wants 4 more wars and a draft

How pray tell can you murder someone not against their will?

And I really wonder where you get your info about wanting 4 more wars, and a draft?

Plus, it wasnt about adultery, it was about pergury infront of the US Congress. Bit of a difference.
TheOneRule
29-08-2004, 09:22
Bushs father funded terrorists thru a bank called BCCI and founded the taliban as well and let Osama run Afghanistan and even tried to murder a sitting President, Ronald Reagan

Where do you get this stuff? Come on.. tell me... I need a good laugh every now and then, and you are not always around.
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:23
4 thousand Americans? That would only be close to accurate if you are stating that Bush was responsible for September 11th. You liberals say that Bush was responsible for 9/11, but Clinton gave us the army. And Saddam killed millions of Iraqis, and all of those alive are better of than they would be otherwise. The recesion was started for the last 6 MONTHS of CLINTONS term. The claims of him going AWOL have been refuted on numerious occasions, unlike Kerry's records where only 6 of about 100 pages have been released. Its also been the largest recovery to, as the economy is only a little lower than before the recesion started with CLinton. Trampling over the constitution? Show me where in the constitution it says that one man can stick his dick up another mans crack, and I will be all for it. Untill then, please shut up and get your facts straight.
this is a load of crap thats not even worth responding to
Steam-whistlers
29-08-2004, 09:24
Bush is hiding himself behind his believe.
And every action he takes is done in the name of God, the f*king bastard thinks he's God himself!

'As to how to react, we have a choice. We can express justified horror; we can seek to understand what may have led to the crimes, which means making an effort to enter the minds of the likely perpetrators. If we choose the latter course, we can do no better, I think, than to listen to the words of Robert Fisk, whose direct knowledge and insight into affairs of the region is unmatched after many years of distinguished reporting. Describing "The wickedness and awesome cruelty of a crushed and humiliated people," he writes that "this is not the war of democracy versus terror that the world will be asked to believe in the coming days. It is also about American missiles smashing into Palestinian homes and US helicopters firing missiles into a Lebanese ambulance in 1996 and American shells crashing into a village called Qana and about a Lebanese militia * paid and uniformed by America's Israeli ally * hacking and raping and murdering their way through refugee camps." And much more. Again, we have a choice: we may try to understand, or refuse to do so, contributing to the likelihood that much worse lies ahead.
Noam Chomsky' "

Bush calls it the ulmtimate battle between good & evil ... I wonder what his definition of 'good' is ....

http://www.alternet.org/story/11463 ... yeah ... sounds like 'good' people!!!
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:26
lol wondered when you would show up in this thread.. what took ya so long?

I personally believe you are evil incarnate.. but that's just my opinion ;)
I was on a rooftop and I just got back...Im the necessary evil that keeps the greater at bay ;)
Steam-whistlers
29-08-2004, 09:29
clintons adultery was between concencual adults and hurt no one--but Bush had people murdered against their will then lied to start a war plus he wants 4 more wars and a draft

Right you are Mkultra!

Miss Lewinski made some good money out of that... And I bet she enjoyed sucking Clinton's d*ck.
You can hardly call it a criminal action, if you compare this with what happened in Iraq.
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:29
How pray tell can you murder someone not against their will?

And I really wonder where you get your info about wanting 4 more wars, and a draft?

Plus, it wasnt about adultery, it was about pergury infront of the US Congress. Bit of a difference.
you murder someone against their will when its not concencual

Bush is already planning on invading Iran-his ultimate goal is a fullscale regional war in the mideast and he cant possibly fight all these unnecessary wars unless he had a draft--already he has a backdoor draft so far as the reserves are concerned
and clinton committed legal pergury
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:31
Where do you get this stuff? Come on.. tell me... I need a good laugh every now and then, and you are not always around.
the BCCI story I heard on Laura Flanders show on air america just today...
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:33
Right you are Mkultra!

Miss Lewinski made some good money out of that... And I bet she enjoyed sucking Clinton's d*ck.
You can hardly call it a criminal action, if you compare this with what happened in Iraq.
im always deeply confused how conservatives embrace genocide yet are scandalized that two people could be enjoying themselves having sex
Eeptopia
29-08-2004, 09:35
bush caused the hindenburg to crash because...


jesus hates bush and so should you
Steam-whistlers
29-08-2004, 09:38
im always deeply confused how conservatives embrace genocide yet are scandalized that two people could be enjoying themselves having sex

I wished Bush's father had been more against sex. There would be no worries about his son if he had not enjoyed it himself so much ... hahahaha
TheOneRule
29-08-2004, 09:39
Right you are Mkultra!

Miss Lewinski made some good money out of that... And I bet she enjoyed sucking Clinton's d*ck.
You can hardly call it a criminal action, if you compare this with what happened in Iraq.

Again, it wasnt about adultery. (And your attitude about her enjoying it makes me wonder if you believe rape victims arent really victim because they enjoyed it.) It was about perjury before the congress. The thought behind this is that if he is willing to freely commit perjury in such a blatent manner, what was he willing to lie about, and had indeed lied about under normal circumstances?

You scream about Bush telling "lies" about Iraq. Unfortunately you cant prove WMD's dont exist. All you can prove is that you havent found them yet. Bush didnt lie, he presented the evidence he had, we believed him and we went to war.

Clinton lied to the US Congress and is proud he got away with it. That's shameful.
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:39
bush caused the hindenburg to crash because...


jesus hates bush and so should you
Bush wasnt alive then but his grandfather Prescott Bush was one of Hitlers most supportive admirers and helped fund his rise to power
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:41
I wished Bush's father had been more against sex. There would be no worries about his son if he had not enjoyed it himself so much ... hahahaha
theres always the demonic twin Jeb
Eeptopia
29-08-2004, 09:43
if jesus goes to major college campuses and says bush is evil then we must believe him





heres a little fact about bush: he killed jesus
Sloborbia
29-08-2004, 09:43
he is trying his best and we shouldn't be so hard on the man!
Oh yeah, he's trying his best all right... trying his best to make hs rich buddies richer and fuck over everyone else.

And yet hes being called evil when a past president who had an adulterous affair-lied about it- is selling books?
Maybe having an affair isn't something a president (or anyone) should be doing but it's not evil, especially compared with Bush's deeds. Clinton wasn't exactly a saint anyway.

You should remember that early in W's political career in Texas he lost an election because the local voters thought he was too smart and snobbish.
Hehe, well it was Texas after all.

Maybe Bush isn't "evil", but the people who manipulate him are and he's allowing it to happen, which makes him just as bad.
TheOneRule
29-08-2004, 09:44
I listen to the Randy Rhodes show (sp?) on Air America now and then. It's a real hoot. Let's see.. she's said that Bush has had policemen shoot union strikers, people with ties to Bush administration were responsible for several bombings of abortion clinics, and that conservatives were the ones that caused Waco to get out of hand and that Reno was just an innocent scapegoat.

Wonderfully fictional radio show.
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:46
Again, it wasnt about adultery. (And your attitude about her enjoying it makes me wonder if you believe rape victims arent really victim because they enjoyed it.) It was about perjury before the congress. The thought behind this is that if he is willing to freely commit perjury in such a blatent manner, what was he willing to lie about, and had indeed lied about under normal circumstances?

You scream about Bush telling "lies" about Iraq. Unfortunately you cant prove WMD's dont exist. All you can prove is that you havent found them yet. Bush didnt lie, he presented the evidence he had, we believed him and we went to war.

Clinton lied to the US Congress and is proud he got away with it. That's shameful.
america wanted clinton to lie--it was the honorable thing to do to protect the privacy of Miss Lewinski which that pervert Ken Starr spent $40 million to expose by hiring a drag queen named linda tripp to illegally tape private conversations -but the republicans had to make america a global laughingstock by persuing this matter cause they couldnt find any real crimes that Clinton committed that they could bring him down with
Steam-whistlers
29-08-2004, 09:47
Again, it wasnt about adultery. (And your attitude about her enjoying it makes me wonder if you believe rape victims arent really victim because they enjoyed it.) It was about perjury before the congress. The thought behind this is that if he is willing to freely commit perjury in such a blatent manner, what was he willing to lie about, and had indeed lied about under normal circumstances?

You scream about Bush telling "lies" about Iraq. Unfortunately you cant prove WMD's dont exist. All you can prove is that you havent found them yet. Bush didnt lie, he presented the evidence he had, we believed him and we went to war.

Clinton lied to the US Congress and is proud he got away with it. That's shameful.

Clinton lied, yes. But it was of NO ONE's business what he did. If I were him, I would have said to the world to MIND THERE OWN BUSINESS instead of getting their noses into his private life.

If it would have been rape .... Miss Lewinsky was not raped. She's money-horny ...

So Bush presented evidence? And if the prove is not there ... then you're NOT a liar ????? Starting a war without proving why you've started it is a bigger lie to me than not explaining why a horny bitch was willing to give you some head
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:48
if jesus goes to major college campuses and says bush is evil then we must believe him





heres a little fact about bush: he killed jesus
Bush re-crucifys Jesus everyday with his fake brand of Christianity
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:50
I listen to the Randy Rhodes show (sp?) on Air America now and then. It's a real hoot. Let's see.. she's said that Bush has had policemen shoot union strikers, people with ties to Bush administration were responsible for several bombings of abortion clinics, and that conservatives were the ones that caused Waco to get out of hand and that Reno was just an innocent scapegoat.

Wonderfully fictional radio show.
Reno was in office for less then 24 hours when the WACO assault that Bush Srs. FBI director started went down
Eeptopia
29-08-2004, 09:51
Bush re-crucifys Jesus everyday with his fake brand of Christianity


now thats a brand name i'd trust



"home style fresh bush re-crucifyed jesus margirine"
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:53
now thats a brand name i'd trust



"home style fresh bush re-crucifyed jesus margirine"margirine is toxic-your better off eating real butter--it tastes better as well. Margirine applied to corn on the cob is a desecration
TheOneRule
29-08-2004, 09:54
Bush re-crucifys Jesus everyday with his fake brand of Christianity

Are you religious? I seem to recall from your previous threads that you are not, but cant recall exactly where I got that idea from. If not, why must you attack his Christianity as fake? The man wears his religion on his sleeve and that is something rare these days, when doing so opens you up to comparison to religious idiots like Falwell and the moron who said God would kill him if he didnt raise x amount of dollars.

Bush has done enough to fuel your hatred of him without attacking his religion. In your own view, think how much more evil he would be if he didnt have some Christian morals holding him up.
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 09:57
Are you religious? I seem to recall from your previous threads that you are not, but cant recall exactly where I got that idea from. If not, why must you attack his Christianity as fake? The man wears his religion on his sleeve and that is something rare these days, when doing so opens you up to comparison to religious idiots like Falwell and the moron who said God would kill him if he didnt raise x amount of dollars.

Bush has done enough to fuel your hatred of him without attacking his religion. In your own view, think how much more evil he would be if he didnt have some Christian morals holding him up.
its Bushs christian fanaticism that is a crucial part of his evil-firstly he thinks hes fulfilling biblical prophecy by starten armaggedon in the mideast and hes so convinced hes doing Gods will that is the roots of his destructive arrogance
Steam-whistlers
29-08-2004, 10:00
its Bushs christian fanaticism that is a crucial part of his evil-firstly he thinks hes fulfilling biblical prophecy by starten armaggedon in the mideast and hes so convinced hes doing Gods will that is the roots of his destructive arrogance

It's exactly religion that cause war ... so I'm proud to be an atheist.
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 10:02
It's exactly religion that cause war ... so I'm proud to be an atheist.
religion does cause war and killed Christ which is why God has no religion. Its an evil manmade concept.
Steam-whistlers
29-08-2004, 10:05
religion does cause war and killed Christ which is why God has no religion. Its an evil manmade concept.

It's a manmade concept that gives an excuse to be evil ;)
Bush is there to prove this ...
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 10:09
It's a manmade concept that gives an excuse to be evil ;)
Bush is there to prove this ...
Just like the Saudi Royal Family that owns Bush exploits Islam to promote terrorism Bush exploits Christianity to promote wars for corporate greed
Corbata
29-08-2004, 10:18
Well I know why I think he is evil... he went to war on false pretenses to cover up another war that was never resolved. Going in to Iraq had nothing to do with Sadam being horrible, it was about nuclear and chemical weapons. There weren't any, by the way. He went into the country without approval of the UN and spent billions of dollars waving a "stop terrorism" flag, meanwhile Americans are given enough time to forget about that Osama character and to overlook the fact that there are still U.S. troops dying in Afghanistan.

Kerry may not be any less of an idiot, but at least he wants to waste money on education instead of on the military. Which, by the way, is not really a waste at all, but more of a long-term investment.

Really I think they are both useless, I want to see a campaign ad that says: "Want to stop terrorism? Then let's stop pissing people off!" That's the person I'd want to vote for!
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 10:23
Well I know why I think he is evil... he went to war on false pretenses to cover up another war that was never resolved. Going in to Iraq had nothing to do with Sadam being horrible, it was about nuclear and chemical weapons. There weren't any, by the way. He went into the country without approval of the UN and spent billions of dollars waving a "stop terrorism" flag, meanwhile Americans are given enough time to forget about that Osama character and to overlook the fact that there are still U.S. troops dying in Afghanistan.

Kerry may not be any less of an idiot, but at least he wants to waste money on education instead of on the military. Which, by the way, is not really a waste at all, but more of a long-term investment.

Really I think they are both useless, I want to see a campaign ad that says: "Want to stop terrorism? Then let's stop pissing people off!" That's the person I'd want to vote for!
everyone warned Bush that his illegal invasion of Iraq would shoot terrorist levels and recruitment thru the roof but Bushs arrogantly and recklessly plays into the hands of terrorists at every turn-so much so that one begins to wonder if Bush and the terrorists arent some kinda secret ALLIES working as a team
Connersonia
29-08-2004, 10:24
People should hate Bush simply because of what he has achieved. I mean, he manages to become the President of the most powerful nation in the world, and he says some classic things- also the picture of him holding a childrens book whilst posing for some nice photos for his election run, and the book is upside down!

You gotta admire the man
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 10:25
People should hate Bush simply because of what he has achieved. I mean, he manages to become the President of the most powerful nation in the world, and he says some classic things- also the picture of him holding a childrens book whilst posing for some nice photos for his election run, and the book is upside down!

You gotta admire the man
Bush is the fool Nostradamus predicted would start WW3 along with Osama
*I gotta get to bed now-ciao
Connersonia
29-08-2004, 10:26
everyone warned Bush that his illegal invasion of Iraq would shoot terrorist levels and recruitment thru the roof but Bushs arrogantly and recklessly plays into the hands of terrorists at every turn-so much so that one begins to wonder if Bush and the terrorists arent some kinda secret ALLIES working as a team


Im not a fan of the Iraq War- but Jees- you are so extreme you make Michael Moore look tame! Anyone who reads Michael Moore and then doesnt feel the need to clean themselves really needs psychiatric tests. I cannot believe that people haven't sued him for the rubbish he writes.

By the way, I am right Wing, but as I said, I did not approve of the Iraqi War, and I don't like what Neo-Cons are doing to our reputation.
Connersonia
29-08-2004, 10:27
Bush is the fool Nostradamus predicted would start WW3 along with Osama


Evidence please, or shut up with your constant unsubstantiated claims
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 10:28
Im not a fan of the Iraq War- but Jees- you are so extreme you make Michael Moore look tame! Anyone who reads Michael Moore and then doesnt feel the need to clean themselves really needs psychiatric tests. I cannot believe that people haven't sued him for the rubbish he writes.

By the way, I am right Wing, but as I said, I did not approve of the Iraqi War, and I don't like what Neo-Cons are doing to our reputation.
michael moore became famous speaking the aweful truth
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 10:29
Evidence please, or shut up with your constant unsubstantiated claims
it was on the history channel
Corbata
29-08-2004, 10:35
michael moore became famous speaking the aweful truth

It doesn't matter why- though I tend to agree with his views, I can see well enough that he isn't fair with the information he presents any more than the next guy. The point is that he gets people riled up: either you hate him and are pissed off and want to revolt against him or you agree with him and want to stand up to support the cause. He instigates movement. That is awesome.
Steam-whistlers
29-08-2004, 10:36
Evidence please, or shut up with your constant unsubstantiated claims

That is exactly what you should have said to Mr. Bush himselves.

Evidence please and prove it, before you start a war!
Connersonia
29-08-2004, 10:52
That is exactly what you should have said to Mr. Bush himselves.

Evidence please and prove it, before you start a war!


Hey I agree- read my posts! I dont like the Iraq War, and I feel it is unjustified. However- Bush is much better than Moore, who writes calumnies as easily as we do posts.
Connersonia
29-08-2004, 10:55
it was on the history channel

I asked for evidence, not a bland passing of the buck. Also- I doubt very much that the HISTORY channel created a programme that proved that Nostradamus predicted a 3rd world war caused by Bush and Bin Laden. The fact that this isnt a World War, and that it isnt even a real war, and that it wasnt caused by Bush but by Bin Laden alone, all show how stupid you are.

Read a book- preferably not one by MM, because he has corrupted your logic already.

Also- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

(That was for the 4*100m mens relay)
Connersonia
29-08-2004, 10:57
michael moore became famous speaking the aweful truth


Nothing that Michael Moore says is backed up by truth. He is just jealous cos he was some retard factory worker, who couldnt do anything properly. However, he has now found he has a knack for writing Bullshit, and then all his little slave-monkeys will dance to his tune.

I note how Moore has no bibliography at the end of his books, as do all other books on politics or history. Why is that?! Oh yes- because he writes crap and has no evidence to substantiate his claims.

Much like MKULTRA
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 22:29
It doesn't matter why- though I tend to agree with his views, I can see well enough that he isn't fair with the information he presents any more than the next guy. The point is that he gets people riled up: either you hate him and are pissed off and want to revolt against him or you agree with him and want to stand up to support the cause. He instigates movement. That is awesome.
true and at least hes like a breath of fresh air from all the propaganda coming out of the mouths of our rightwing corporate pig media that likes to lie for the establishment
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 22:34
I asked for evidence, not a bland passing of the buck. Also- I doubt very much that the HISTORY channel created a programme that proved that Nostradamus predicted a 3rd world war caused by Bush and Bin Laden. The fact that this isnt a World War, and that it isnt even a real war, and that it wasnt caused by Bush but by Bin Laden alone, all show how stupid you are.

Read a book- preferably not one by MM, because he has corrupted your logic already.

Also- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

(That was for the 4*100m mens relay)
Nostradamus in one of his quatrains DID predict WW3 and he linked the names Bush and Osama in relation to it on an episode on the History channel a few months back. Its not WW3 YET but Bush is working on it with his 4 more wars plan and hes already rattling his sabers about invading Iran next which means that Bush is working in partnership with Osama in starting WW3 just as Nostradamus said
Von Witzleben
29-08-2004, 22:38
Bush is a good man, however, he's being manipulated by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, etc. Bush is a puppet for the extreme-right.
If thats the case he's not a good man. He's just a plain moron.
Ladyrho
29-08-2004, 22:39
I think it's because Bush has never had to earn a thing in his life. He got into school because of his family connections, he got into the Air National Guard because of his family connections, and was able to shirk his duty there. He had run-ins with the law, but never had to face any repercussions. He's a many-time failed businessman who was always bailed out, and now he's able to work his reckless agenda without fear of reprisal with the world's most powerful military at his disposal.

Also, he wasn't hugged sufficiently as a child. And perhaps his parents were too strict with the potty training.
PERFECT ANSWER.......All your points were right on the money.... :fluffle:
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 22:39
Nothing that Michael Moore says is backed up by truth. He is just jealous cos he was some retard factory worker, who couldnt do anything properly. However, he has now found he has a knack for writing Bullshit, and then all his little slave-monkeys will dance to his tune.

I note how Moore has no bibliography at the end of his books, as do all other books on politics or history. Why is that?! Oh yes- because he writes crap and has no evidence to substantiate his claims.

Much like MKULTRA
MM has more proof and credability and better researched storys then anything the corporate media (which lies for the powerful) says so that makes him one of the most believable and relevant journalists of our times. The only way you get truth from the corporate media is if you watch foxnews and believe the exact OPPOSITE of everything they say, but thats alotta work
Fox Hills
29-08-2004, 23:13
MM has more proof and credability and better researched storys then anything the corporate media (which lies for the powerful) says so that makes him one of the most believable and relevant journalists of our times. The only way you get truth from the corporate media is if you watch foxnews and believe the exact OPPOSITE of everything they say, but thats alotta work
Micheal Moore is a bias fat blowhard, He's also getting sued by the Chicago Sun Times for doctoring an article they put out to fit into his bias message.
Fox Hills
29-08-2004, 23:17
Bush wasnt alive then but his grandfather Prescott Bush was one of Hitlers most supportive admirers and helped fund his rise to power
:rolleyes: :p Man your funny, you got any proof of that?
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 23:19
Micheal Moore is a bias fat blowhard, He's also getting sued by the Chicago Sun Times for doctoring an article they put out to fit into his bias message.
is the chicago sun times a member of the hate media? if not tho Im sure MM was just giving one of their bland and boring corporate propaganda storys a more relevant spin-if they were smart theyd hire him
MKULTRA
29-08-2004, 23:21
:rolleyes: :p Man your funny, you got any proof of that?
its all over the internet
MoeHoward
29-08-2004, 23:30
its all over the internet

I think you need to get off of the glue, or crack. Heck my dog tells me things and he is just as reliable as the internet. Except when he told me to kill for him.