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What is the limit on Sentience?

Southern Industrial
28-08-2004, 05:47
What of the following is Sentient? (sp?)
(nevermind the horridness of some of these hypothetical experiments-- there probably should never happen.)

What are your definitions of Sentience?

1.All humans
2.A cloned brain grown in a vat
3.The same brain but the biochemicals have been substitued with ones that
work the same
4.A brain with all the neural pathways re-built to work the same but be
entirely electronic
5.A simulation of a brain
6.A simulation with some of the algorithims simplified to run faster
7.Artificial Intellege

I say 1, 2, and maybe 3.
Southern Industrial
28-08-2004, 05:47
PS, does anyone have any idea how to spell that word?
Elvandair
28-08-2004, 05:48
the spelling looks right
Southern Industrial
28-08-2004, 05:50
the spelling looks right
So?
Elvandair
28-08-2004, 05:52
So?
so then you got your question answered
Southern Industrial
28-08-2004, 05:54
so then you got your question answered

my other question.
Elvandair
28-08-2004, 05:57
my other question.

I have no interest in it :-)
Ganurath
28-08-2004, 06:00
#s 1-5 are all viable if they were possible. Given the laws of physics, only 1-3 are possible. However, a program designed to possess an evolving intelligence and learning capacity could attain sentience.
Terra - Domina
28-08-2004, 06:02
by sentience do you mean consiousness?

consiousness and the thought processeses of the mind can hypothetically be figured out, so that in theory we could have a physical understanding of the bio-chemical reactions in consious thought. In that case, we could reproduce that consiousness in a cloned form.

I believe this would also work if the brain were entirely electronic, provided the entire central nervous system of the robot was built with the exact same processes as the human consiousness (or whatever consiousness really is).

As far as a simulation, I believe so, but it would be a simulated consiousness. Basically, it would be consious but not alive (if i understand what you mean...)

if the simulation was modified to run faster, it would just be a more efficent consiousness, unless you removed something essential to the physical consiousness simulator or ... whatever...
Southern Industrial
28-08-2004, 06:02
#s 1-5 are all viable if they were possible. Given the laws of physics, only 1-3 are possible. However, a program designed to possess an evolving intelligence and learning capacity could attain sentience.

So given an unlimted amout of computing power, a computer could not calcute what another computer is going to do? This does not flow from what I have learn of computer science.
Terra - Domina
28-08-2004, 06:35
So given an unlimted amout of computing power, a computer could not calcute what another computer is going to do? This does not flow from what I have learn of computer science.

thats not the question thought

obviously a computer may one day be able to build itself so that it has no longer need of consiousness, but assuredly by that point we could build one with simple sentience.