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Driving to school today I witnessed a squirrel squirming in the middle of the road. He was flopping about like a fish. It seems that some heartless person ran over one of his apendages leaving him incapacitated. I drove past him horrified of what I just witnessed.

On the way back home I took the same route I took to school to see if he was still there. I was relieved to see that someone had run him over to put an end to his suffering. Poor squirrel. *tear*

Driving to school today I witnessed a squirrel squirming in the middle of the road. He was flopping about like a fish. It seems that some heartless person ran over one of his apendages leaving him incapacitated. I drove past him horrified of what I just witnessed.

On the way back home I took the same route I took to school to see if he was still there. I was relieved to see that someone had run him over to put an end to his suffering. Poor squirrel. *tear*

My god man ITS A SQUIRREL. Some heartless person was probaly just a man going to work to busy to see the squirrel. You talk about it as if it was a person but it is alittle bit sad.

Driving to school today I witnessed a squirrel squirming in the middle of the road. He was flopping about like a fish. It seems that some heartless person ran over one of his apendages leaving him incapacitated. I drove past him horrified of what I just witnessed.

On the way back home I took the same route I took to school to see if he was still there. I was relieved to see that someone had run him over to put an end to his suffering. Poor squirrel. *tear*

Bad for him, should've waited for the green light.

*rimshot*

My god man ITS A SQUIRREL. Some heartless person was probaly just a man going to work to busy to see the squirrel. You talk about it as if it was a person but it is alittle bit sad.

Ok how about I run over your arm and see how you feel after it. Just because he's an animal doesn't mean he can't feel pain. You must obviously not own any pets you heartless fiend.

Well, I think you should've done something when you saw the squirrel squirming in pain. I think you should have asked yourself, What would Brian Boitano do?

Well, I think you should've done something when you saw the squirrel squirming in pain. I think you should have asked yourself, What would Brian Boitano do?

He'd call Jebus!

What would Brian Boitano do if he were here today?
He'd probably kick an ass or two, that's what Brian Boitano'll do!

Damn, I could've sworn that I flattened him on the first pass!

She blinds everybody with her super high beams,
she's a squirrel squasher, deer smacking, driving machine.

Your car?

Ok how about I run over your arm and see how you feel after it. Just because he's an animal doesn't mean he can't feel pain. You must obviously not own any pets you heartless fiend.

You sound like an animal rights activist.

You sound like an animal rights activist.

No I just feel bad for the poor little guy and I don't appreciate it when people try to tell me that "it's just a squirrel." Yeah it's a squirrel, but I don't want to witness it die and writhe in pain.

Yeah it's a squirrel, but I don't want to witness it die and writhe in pain.


I do actually... usually my friends and me will laugh...

*cricket cricket*

Damn I'm heartless... I feel empty now...

Being sensitive to others pain is nothing to make fun of, but an admirable quality.

however, you didnt exactly pull over and help the thing, or end its misery....did you.....yeah, thought so. Some kind-hearted soul you are.

Being sensitive to others pain is nothing to make fun of, but an admirable quality.

however, you didnt exactly pull over and help the thing, or end its misery....did you.....yeah, thought so. Some kind-hearted soul you are.

Sorry I try to distance myself from things that could possibly give me nightmares, and rabies.

it may have just been bad timeing say there was a car on the other side of the road and no time to stop.

Also in a related story becuase there was a car on the other side of the road and no time to stop cuase it ran out right away i moved just a bit and went right over it look in my window and saw it run away....i felt good for not killing it....and getting blood on my newtires. mostly the first one.

I saw the exact same thing.... a gopher (which is just a ground squirrel) had been partly run over and writhing in the road. The most disturbing part was how fast it was moving; I didn't know they could even move that fast. When I first saw it, I thought it was a piece of plastic blowing on the road or something, and when I realized what it was, I had already driven past. But it was extremely disturbing, so I know what you mean. If I hadn't seen it myself, I would have probably agreed with these other posters that it's just a stupid squirrel, but it was a really haunting image.

I saw the exact same thing.... a gopher (which is just a ground squirrel) had been partly run over and writhing in the road. The most disturbing part was how fast it was moving; I didn't know they could even move that fast. When I first saw it, I thought it was a piece of plastic blowing on the road or something, and when I realized what it was, I had already driven past. But it was extremely disturbing, so I know what you mean. If I hadn't seen it myself, I would have probably agreed with these other posters that it's just a stupid squirrel, but it was a really haunting image.

Literally when I saw it I said to myself, "What... the... is that a fish in the road?" (Because it was literally flopping like a fish, just thinking about it sickens me) When I realized what it was I instantly became depressed.

if i ever saw a squirrel in the street, why, i wouldve ran him over, got out, kicked him around like a football then nailed him to the benders of my car and drive into a wall a few times, just for starters

if i ever saw a squirrel in the street, why, i wouldve ran him over, got out, kicked him around like a football then nailed him to the benders of my car and drive into a wall a few times, just for starters

arent you special

I feel bad whenever I see anything thats dead
...other than insects...
but anyways, any animal I feel sorry for because it had its own life, its own almost limitless story, all of that, put to a sudden end.

if i ever saw a squirrel in the street, why, i wouldve ran him over, got out, kicked him around like a football then nailed him to the benders of my car and drive into a wall a few times, just for starters

I'd love to do that to you.

Why the hell do people seem to have this attitude "oh well they are just animals".

I can respect alot of animals a helluvalot more than some humans I can think of, and I love animals personally, they are great :)

Very sad to hear about things like this :(

I'd love to do that to you.

Why the hell do people seem to have this attitude "oh well they are just animals".

I can respect alot of animals a helluvalot more than some humans I can think of, and I love animals personally, they are great :)

Very sad to hear about things like this :(

Honestly, as if other mammals can't feel pain. It's amazing how a squirrel, which is equipped with sharp claws and teeth can actually do lots of damage to a human. We are nothing more than soft, bags of flesh teetering about on two legs. I would want to put him in a room full of angry squirrels and see what would happen to him. Ugh, the arrogance...

exactly I mean, yeah, we might have a language and governments (which are crap btw) and we walk on two legs makes us high and mighty...woopdie f***in doo.

Driving to school today I witnessed a squirrel squirming in the middle of the road. He was flopping about like a fish. It seems that some heartless person ran over one of his apendages leaving him incapacitated. I drove past him horrified of what I just witnessed.

On the way back home I took the same route I took to school to see if he was still there. I was relieved to see that someone had run him over to put an end to his suffering. Poor squirrel. *tear*

I don't know that the person who did it necessarily realized what they'd done. But I can imagine how horrible it was for you to see that, though. Maybe it's just me, but I actually even get upset if, when I kill a bug, I can't do it instantly. We are sentient, which animals may not be--but because we ARE sentient, we have a responsibility to them.

thats one thing I can do...bug smashing...
...I just go right over them when I roller blade or skateboard, smash the crazy little things

Driving to school today I witnessed a squirrel squirming in the middle of the road. He was flopping about like a fish. It seems that some heartless person ran over one of his apendages leaving him incapacitated. I drove past him horrified of what I just witnessed.

On the way back home I took the same route I took to school to see if he was still there. I was relieved to see that someone had run him over to put an end to his suffering. Poor squirrel. *tear*

Perhaps you should have pulled over and taken it to a vet clinic or animal shelter...

You know what's interesting? Yesterday, I avoided stepping on some random ant walking across the sidewalk. Why? It has a life, and I think we should respect things, even if they are small or weak or stupid because they are just here. Except mosquitos, roachs, earwigs and watrbugs. Waterbugs are like mutant cockroaches.

Honestly, as if other mammals can't feel pain. It's amazing how a squirrel, which is equipped with sharp claws and teeth can actually do lots of damage to a human. We are nothing more than soft, bags of flesh teetering about on two legs. I would want to put him in a room full of angry squirrels and see what would happen to him. Ugh, the arrogance...

lol
ya, we are just big bags of flesh...

(with monumental cranial capacity that would allow us to easily do away with 100s of squirrels, we could just run them over)

Perhaps you should have pulled over and taken it to a vet clinic or animal shelter...

As I said earlier, I would like to avoid having NIGHTMARES from having to get up close and personal with the thing. To tell you the truth, I'm only assuming that it was just a limb that was injured. It could have very well have had his skull smashed open with brains leaking out. And he was FLOPPING LIKE A FISH, way too disturbing. I'm up right now typing this to avoid sleeping because i'm sure i'll dream about it. :-(

lol
ya, we are just big bags of flesh...

(with monumental cranial capacity that would allow us to easily do away with 100s of squirrels, we could just run them over)

That's all we have though, our brains. I bet as time goes on we are just gonna get weaker and weaker. Then we'll HAVE to download our brains into robotic bodies (refer to my other thread) :-)

ah not good...
...last time something like that happened is when my parents hit a racoon, I heard the body thunk along the bottom of the car right under my feet... I was...shocked

I love animals.... I would have tried to help it, however if it was really badly hurt, I would have just carried it off the road and put it out of its missery. :(

another evil thought...
...my parents always have me shoot the robins in our rasberry patches...
...majority of them don't go down in one hit

I like birds too.....

It seems to me that people who have no respect for animal life as kids are the kinda people who grow up to have no respect for life in general. I remember some kid had caught all these frogs he was going to blow up with a firecracker. I threw him down a hill and freed the frogs. He started crying the loser.

Killing another creture should only come out of necassity. When people kill because it may be inconvienient to turn the wheel, you know they are people that have no empathy, soul or heart.

That's all we have though, our brains. I bet as time goes on we are just gonna get weaker and weaker. Then we'll HAVE to download our brains into robotic bodies (refer to my other thread) :-)

ya, exactly

we got our brains for the same reason they have their claws.

It just seems that brains turned out to be a little bit, though i hate to use such a subjective term, better in the long run.

We have outgrown the need for claws because we can shoot our prey if we please, or just pay someone to do it for us. NOW THAT is evolution at work.

It seems to me that people who have no respect for animal life as kids are the kinda people who grow up to have no respect for life in general. I remember some kid had caught all these frogs he was going to blow up with a firecracker. I threw him down a hill and freed the frogs. He started crying the loser.

Kids like that end up being mass murderers or serial rapists. Saddistic little kid...

ya, exactly

we got our brains for the same reason they have their claws.

It just seems that brains turned out to be a little bit, though i hate to use such a subjective term, better in the long run.

We have outgrown the need for claws because we can shoot our prey if we please, or just pay someone to do it for us. NOW THAT is evolution at work.

Well i never argued the nature of evolution. I just felt like plugging my other thread.

Kids like that end up being mass murderers or serial rapists. Saddistic little kid...

name one serial murder or rapist that did that to frogs as a kid.

the majority of them are repressed christians

please do research (http://www.crimelibrary.com)

*that came off too harsh :p

I didn't want to shoot them, but I was kinda forced to

name one serial murder or rapist that did that to frogs as a kid.

the majority of them are repressed christians

please do research (http://www.crimelibrary.com)

*that came off too harsh :p

how many backgrounds of serial killers or rapists can you recall?

how many backgrounds of serial killers or rapists can you recall?

lol, probably not with that much specifity, but...

maybe a dozen....

6 for sure...

:)

lol, probably not with that much specifity, but...

maybe a dozen....

6 for sure...

:)

every single detail?

Honestly I don't get where people get this "High and Mighty Holier Than Thou" Attitude over something that's common sense. Sick F*ck children usually end up sick f*ck adults.

I agree...
...even though like I said, my childhood hasn't been innocent, I will definately not become a killer or rapist, or bad person in general

every single detail?

lol, obviously not

it wasnt even a real challange, i like to stir up shit, and you called my bluff... for that i congradulate you as my superior at this moment.... :p

Honestly I don't get where people get this "High and Mighty Holier Than Thou" Attitude over something that's common sense. Sick F*ck children usually end up sick f*ck adults.

the emotions for sadism come from the same thought process that we get love and sexual emotions. Thats why sadism is observed in the animal kingdom.

we arent higher and mightier, we are still governed by emotional instincts, and some still think it is funny to see something living die.

who knows, given the right circumstances it just might be ;)

it is funny to joke about, and people shouldnt get too offended

I'd love to do that to you.

Why the hell do people seem to have this attitude "oh well they are just animals".

I can respect alot of animals a helluvalot more than some humans I can think of, and I love animals personally, they are great :)

Very sad to hear about things like this :(

They just say these things for attention. They probably bawl their eyes out when their goldfish dies.

Animals deserve respect, thats all I have to say.

Driving to school today I witnessed a squirrel squirming in the middle of the road. He was flopping about like a fish. It seems that some heartless person ran over one of his apendages leaving him incapacitated. I drove past him horrified of what I just witnessed.

On the way back home I took the same route I took to school to see if he was still there. I was relieved to see that someone had run him over to put an end to his suffering. Poor squirrel. *tear*

If you really cared, you would have run over it yourself to end its misery.
Instead, you did the same thing everyone else did...

....just drove on by.....

name one serial murder or rapist that did that to frogs as a kid.

the majority of them are repressed christians

please do research (http://www.crimelibrary.com)

*that came off too harsh :p

Actual, animal cruelty is often an early indicator in those who go on to be serial killers:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/tick/events_5.html?sect=19

Animal Cruelty

These secret compulsions are seen as the seeds to greater mayhem. "Violent acts are reinforced, since the murderers either are able to express rage without experiencing negative consequences or are impervious to any prohibitions against these actions. Second, impulsive and erratic behavior discourages friendships," increasing isolation." "Furthermore, there is no challenge to the offenders' beliefs that they are entitled to act the way they do." (Ressler, et al, Sexual Homicide) "All learning, according to Ressler, has a "feedback system." Torturing animals and setting fires will eventually escalate to crimes against fellow human beings, if the pattern is not somehow broken.

Torturing animals is a disturbing red flag. Animals are often seen as "practice" for killing humans. Ed Kemper buried the family cat alive, dug it up, and cut off its head. Dahmer was notorious for his animal cruelty, cutting off dogs heads and placing them on a stick behind his house. Yet not all serial killers take their aggressions out on pets. Dennis Nilsen loved animals, particularly his dog Bleep, whom he couldn't bear to face after being arrested for fear that it would traumatize the dog. Rapist torturer and murderer of eight, Christopher Wilder, had made donations to Save The Whales and the Seal Rescue Fund.


Other sources:

http://www.criminalprofiling.ch/character.html

http://www.karisable.com/crserial1.htm

http://www.digitaltermpapers.com/view.php/d/The_Connectio_B.htm

Actual, animal cruelty is often an early indicator in those who go on to be serial killers:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/tick/events_5.html?sect=19



Other sources:

http://www.criminalprofiling.ch/character.html

http://www.karisable.com/crserial1.htm

http://www.digitaltermpapers.com/view.php/d/The_Connectio_B.htm

well, thats what my shoes taste like
;)

If you really cared, you would have run over it yourself to end its misery.
Instead, you did the same thing everyone else did...

....just drove on by.....

Exactly - he paints the driver who originally hit the squirrel as some kind of monster (the guy mightn't even have noticed) yet excuses his own unwillingness to stop and help as "it was too icky!"...

well, thats what my shoes taste like
;)

LOL, no probs - I only knew because I watch too much Law & Order :p

LOL, no probs - I only knew because I watch too much Law & Order :p

im kinda suprised i didnt know, ive read a good majority of the stories on there...

It seems to me that people who have no respect for animal life as kids are the kinda people who grow up to have no respect for life in general. I remember some kid had caught all these frogs he was going to blow up with a firecracker. I threw him down a hill and freed the frogs. He started crying the loser.

Reminds me about an interviewI read on the 'net with GWB's boyhood friend. Sticking crackers up frog's asses and blowing them up was something GWB did all the time.

Driving to school today I witnessed a squirrel squirming in the middle of the road. He was flopping about like a fish. It seems that some heartless person ran over one of his apendages leaving him incapacitated. I drove past him horrified of what I just witnessed.

On the way back home I took the same route I took to school to see if he was still there. I was relieved to see that someone had run him over to put an end to his suffering. Poor squirrel. *tear*

Let's get this straight: You saw a squirrel writhing in agony after it'd been run over. You don't know how this happened, so you conjectured up the idea the offender was heartless for not stopping.
You didn't run it over yourself - ok maybe not safe for you swerve, so we'll leave this one, except to say maybe it wasn't safe for the other driver to swerve to avoid hitting it;
You didn't stop to finish it off/check it's vitals - why? Were you running late? Maybe so was the other person. Maybe it was an ambulance rushing someone to hospital. We'll never know;
Maybe they didn't know they had done it. So of course wouldn't stop. Animals do misjudge and rush out between the front and back wheels.
But you did know. And did nothing.
And you call them heartless!!

On another note, I have no qualms about hitting animals. I figure it's helping Darwin along a bit by weeding out the slow, the sick and the dumb. I'm not going to risk my life swerving to avoid an animal (unless it's a horse since they usually roll over the bonnet and crash into the driver, quite possibly killing the driver/passenger). Swerving violently when doing 120km/hr is not something I'd suggest you try. Also in NZ we have a major pest problem with possums, who are killing all the native trees and native birds. So I feel it's my patriotic duty to smear these little Aussie pests all over the road any chance I get. Swerve to avoid them? Swerve to hit them I say!

Thank you, Demented! :D

Let's get this straight: You saw a squirrel writhing in agony after it'd been run over. You don't know how this happened, so you conjectured up the idea the offender was heartless for not stopping.
You didn't run it over yourself - ok maybe not safe for you swerve, so we'll leave this one, except to say maybe it wasn't safe for the other driver to swerve to avoid hitting it;
You didn't stop to finish it off/check it's vitals - why? Were you running late? Maybe so was the other person. Maybe it was an ambulance rushing someone to hospital. We'll never know;
Maybe they didn't know they had done it. So of course wouldn't stop. Animals do misjudge and rush out between the front and back wheels.
But you did know. And did nothing.
And you call them heartless!!
There is probably a good reason why he didn't do anything...
...and its called SHOCK where you are too SHOCKED to think straight and you just go by, think about it, if you and your best freind is in the military, and you are retreating from some building lets say, and your freind gets shot but doesn't die, when you see him there, the first thing your going to do is be shocked by the fact he was shot, and that you never thought it would happen to you or a freind.
Your mind is taking its time gathering all the information about what just happened, then the next thing you know, he is shot again and dead.

On another note, I have no qualms about hitting animals. I figure it's helping Darwin along a bit by weeding out the slow, the sick and the dumb. I'm not going to risk my life swerving to avoid an animal (unless it's a horse since they usually roll over the bonnet and crash into the driver, quite possibly killing the driver/passenger). Swerving violently when doing 120km/hr is not something I'd suggest you try. Also in NZ we have a major pest problem with possums, who are killing all the native trees and native birds. So I feel it's my patriotic duty to smear these little Aussie pests all over the road any chance I get. Swerve to avoid them? Swerve to hit them I say!

I get a kick out of this...
...No I will not risk my life to take anothers, but if my life is in no danger sure I will gladly kill one.
What makes your life better than the animals?

I get a kick out of this...
...No I will not risk my life to take anothers, but if my life is in no danger sure I will gladly kill one.
What makes your life better than the animals?
Oh great, you'll swerve to avoid hitting a possum - an introduced pest that numbers somewhere in the region of 100 million which chomps it's way through 32 000 tonnes of foliage every night (as well as birds eggs, insects and snails), and in so doing not only risk your life, but also ensure the destruction and deforestation of New Zealands unique and beautiful native trees and National parks, as well as helping quicken the extinction of various beautiful, totally unique native birds, insects and snails.
But you'd much rather save one of these smelly little brutes. But hey I guess swerving to avoid it (as well as avoiding the consequences of your non-actions) will at least make you feel superior to me. So that's something
Please don't come to NZ.

There is probably a good reason why he didn't do anything...
...and its called SHOCK where you are too SHOCKED to think straight and you just go by, think about it, if you and your best freind is in the military, and you are retreating from some building lets say, and your freind gets shot but doesn't die, when you see him there, the first thing your going to do is be shocked by the fact he was shot, and that you never thought it would happen to you or a freind.
Your mind is taking its time gathering all the information about what just happened, then the next thing you know, he is shot again and dead.
You do know there's a slight difference between seeing your friend get shot in a war zone and seeing a squirrel smushed all over the road.
Unless you're part of a crack squirrel battalion of course.

Oh great, you'll swerve to avoid hitting a possum - an introduced pest that numbers somewhere in the region of 100 million which chomps it's way through 32 000 tonnes of foliage every night (as well as birds eggs, insects and snails), and in so doing not only risk your life, but also ensure the destruction and deforestation of New Zealands unique and beautiful native trees and National parks, as well as helping quicken the extinction of various beautiful, totally unique native birds, insects and snails.
But you'd much rather save one of these smelly little brutes. But hey I guess swerving to avoid it (as well as avoiding the consequences of your non-actions) will at least make you feel superior to me. So that's something
Please don't come to NZ.
and there is another nice fact I have...
...I don't live anywhere near New Zealand, I live on the other side of the world basically...
...and where I live, possums are not a problem at all

You do know there's a slight difference between seeing your friend get shot in a war zone and seeing a squirrel smushed all over the road.
Unless you're part of a crack squirrel battalion of course.
It was an example fool

It was an example fool
It was a stupid example, and you're the fool for using it.

It was a stupid example, and you're the fool for using it.
who is the fool? the fool, or the fool calling the fool a fool who has a stupid name about animals but also loves to run them over?

boy you have good logic... lets switch stuff around, and say we were in animals places, and animals were in our places, see how you like being run over

who is the fool? the fool, or the fool calling the fool a fool who has a stupid name about animals but also loves to run them over?

boy you have good logic... lets switch stuff around, and say we were in animals places, and animals were in our places, see how you like being run over
You are really getting weird now. You use the most outrageous comparison possible (ok maybe not quite, you haven't used dropping the A-Bomb one yet), and then insult me. Why?
It seems only because I'm intelligent enough to see a little bit further ahead than the next few seconds and am able to use the argument of rationality to see the +/- consequences of my actions. And one less introduced pest is helping in a little way to preserving a totally unique eco-system.
You on the other hand would much rather feel secure in your smugness that you've never delibrately run anything over. Well good for you. Shame that your decision not to smush that possum, while it makes you feel all nice and superior over us possum-murderers, is in fact contributing to the destruction of a whole eco-system millions of years old.
How exactly do you justify this hypocrisy incidently?

You are really getting weird now. You use the most outrageous comparison possible (ok maybe not quite, you haven't used dropping the A-Bomb one yet), and then insult me. Why?
It seems only because I'm intelligent enough to see a little bit further ahead than the next few seconds and am able to use the argument of rationality to see the +/- consequences of my actions. And one less introduced pest is helping in a little way to preserving a totally unique eco-system.
You on the other hand would much rather feel secure in your smugness that you've never delibrately run anything over. Well good for you. Shame that your decision not to smush that possum, while it makes you feel all nice and superior over us possum-murderers, is in fact contributing to the destruction of a whole eco-system millions of years old.
How exactly do you justify this hypocrisy incidently?
Ok listen, if possums are all that big of a deal, go ahead and smush em, but if they aren't a deal, why bother

oh btw I can't drive I am 14 dude