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Let's say a huge craft carrying a breeding colony of space aliens crash-lands on earth and can't be repaired. They mix in with the human population and start a life here. Are they entitled to "human rights"?

PETA says: Yes.

I say: If they can breed with and impregnate (or get impregnated by) humans, they are human enough for me.

PETA says: Yes.
Who gives a crap what peta says? If we weren't meant to eat animals then why are they made out of meat?

Let's say a huge craft carrying a breeding colony of space aliens crash-lands on earth and can't be repaired. They mix in with the human population and start a life here. Are they entitled to "human rights"?
of course not because they are different, anything different doesnt deserve rights, DUHHHHH

No, they can't breed with humans. They are silicon based, not carbon based.

Of course there will be some hate groups that dislike this new race thats intertwined with ours, but thats to be expected. But they will most likey be mixed in without any massive trouble. They should most likey be intitled to Human rights so long as they conform to our laws and become productive members of society.

Who gives a crap what peta says? If we weren't meant to eat animals then why are they made out of meat?
I'm starting a new thread to discuss vegetarianism so this one doesn't get hijacked.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6887511#post6887511

Oh come on now- you honestly believe that they would be left alone by the world govts? I think if they crash landed on earth, they'd be abducted off to some research lab where their unique silicon-based characteristics would be studied in an attempt to basically enslave them to work deep mines searching for oil or something. The worlds populations would never even know of their existence, probably. But that is just my opinion. ;)

Hmm... an interesting question...

I would have to say no. Being of a different species, and having vastly different needs, they would have to have a seperate set of unalienable (forgive the pun) rights tailored to their needs and customs.

Oh come on now- you honestly believe that they would be left alone by the world govts? I think if they crash landed on earth, they'd be abducted off to some research lab where their unique silicon-based characteristics would be studied in an attempt to basically enslave them to work deep mines searching for oil or something. The worlds populations would never even know of their existence, probably. But that is just my opinion. ;)
And it would be the right thing to do.

Well I would accept them because I would want to know about their travels adn habits and see if they could help us improve our technology and give us information on livable planets in the universe they might have encountered and can help us get to.

We let them stay if they teach us how to make good space ships and laser guns.

If they are a sentient species aware of their own existence, etc. - yes, they should have the same inalienable rights. (Which I'm pretty sure they would have to be if they were gonna be going around building space ships =)

Speciest mobs riot everywhere, and religious thinking has to deal with the fact that we are no longer the most important thing in the universe. That alone should destablize society enough that I would not be suprised to see the aliens be designated some sort of term such as "Extraterrestrial Contaminants" and propagandaized to be unclean and deadly to be in contact with. They'd be shipped to some sort of Government facility where biologists and physicists and every Ph.D. in the country who could find out everything would be called in to vivisect them and dismantle their ships and weapons and computers.

Assuming the worst, of course. They have "human rights" assuming they are even moderately sentient- we still don't allow torture of gorillas, for instance, or chimps, even if they can't vote or be free. And to fly across at least several light years, they must be pretty smart. By right they should also have citizenship assuming they can pass the exam- right now they're Illegal Aliens (badump bump... chhh!).

If they are a sentient species aware of their own existence, etc. - yes, they should have the same inalienable rights. (Which I'm pretty sure they would have to be if they were gonna be going around building space ships =)

a being would have to be sentient to build a space ship and explore

Let's say a huge craft carrying a breeding colony of space aliens crash-lands on earth and can't be repaired. They mix in with the human population and start a life here. Are they entitled to "human rights"?
Yes, but only some of the rights.

First off, human rights only apply to people of member nations of the United Nations, so the aliens would have to become citizens of those countries to get human rights.

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights states: "Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction."

So the aliens would be afforded some rights as "people", "individuals" and "organs of society". Unfortunately, thereafter some of the rights state that they apply specifically to "all human beings" and others apply to "everyone." Only those that apply to "everyone" would protect the aliens.

Well I would accept them because I would want to know about their travels adn habits and see if they could help us improve our technology and give us information on livable planets in the universe they might have encountered and can help us get to.
Then we can take over their worlds wuahahahahaha
Think about it the governments take their technology say that they're here to kill us and unite the world and inslave several other worlds.

Let's say a huge craft carrying a breeding colony of space aliens crash-lands on earth and can't be repaired. They mix in with the human population and start a life here. Are they entitled to "human rights"?

Depends on how sentient they are.

Depends on how sentient they are.
or how much like bacon they taste

or how much like bacon they taste

You know, that was going to be my follow-up punch line, approximately.