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A friend of mine tells me that someday he will form a cult, intent on my demise.

Something to do with how I'm going to inadvertently destroy mankind...

for the record, I intend to do the following in my life:
1 - create an Artificial Inteligence that can talk, breed and evolve.
2 - Write software that will make it easier to genetically engineer things - e.g. customise your pet's fur colour
3 - use said software to splice various animals (snake/lizard, wolf/cat, bat/bird + something for fire) together to make a breeding pair of small (unless I can make them big :D ) dragons.

So is he right? must I be killed for the good of mankind?

Can people stop telling me I will die? I know I will die, and the joke was funny the first time. :headbang: The question is clearly referring to weather or not my life should be terminated prematurely. NOT as to whether or not I will die eventually.

um....
sorry what was the question again?

I am hellbent on creating things that might decide we are obsolete. as per the matrix.

Should someone kill me before my work is complete, or may I continue and doom us all to destruction?

Your plans are somewhat ambitious, but if you don't do it, someone else will. You should seek help to ensure suitable safety precautions are in place.

Have you seen "I Robot" yet?

Have you seen "I Robot" yet?

No but I intend to. Similar doom I assume? Any good?

Jurasic Park is another good argument for my destruction.

Your plans are somewhat ambitious, but if you don't do it, someone else will.
That's not quite right. That's like saying that it doesn't matter that I killed someone because he would've died anyway.

Killing EvilGnomes would be a valuable precedent which could be cited when other madmen/women need to be executed to save mankind some bother.

That's not quite right. That's like saying that it doesn't matter that I killed someone because he would've died anyway.

Killing EvilGnomes would be a valuable precedent which could be cited when other madmen/women need to be executed to save mankind some bother.

Unless I become a martyr, inspiring others to finish my work in secret.
MWHAHAHAHAHAHR!!!!

Should I die?

Yeah. Eventually. You'll get around to it in a few years. No pressure.

Sure, why not?

Your friend sounds fun.

No but I intend to. Similar doom I assume? Any good?

Jurasic Park is another good argument for my destruction.

Jurasic Park was confined to a single island, and they realise that it's a bad idea to let them loose on a continent. I bet some scientists are working on it now, come on a kick-ass dinosaur park! That would be awesome! Did they stop developing the rollorcoaster when the first one crashed? Of course not.

"I Robot" is not an adaption of the book (which I recommend reading) but it contains enough of Asimov's ideas to claim "inspired by the book". It is however an excellent film and well worth a watch. the plot is sufficiently engaging to capture the intellect while the effects make good watching in the cinema.

I, Robot is the biggest piece of crap I've ever had the displeasure of watching. If you like mundane action films where Will Smith (yet again! Hooray!) saves the world, you'll love it.

The only thing it has in common with the book is the title.

That's not quite right. That's like saying that it doesn't matter that I killed someone because he would've died anyway.

Killing EvilGnomes would be a valuable precedent which could be cited when other madmen/women need to be executed to save mankind some bother.

I believe it still holds. Concentration should be focused on prevention in the infinite, rather than delaying a problem for the next generation to deal with. As mentioned above, the experimentation will be carried out in secret without regulations if it is forbidden outright. It is better for these types of research to be done openly and safely rather than hidden and dangerous.

I believe this most passionately with regard to human cloning. Research in this area is going on, I believe the British government are correct in allowing, and even in some cases financing such research, on the condition that it is closely monitored so as not to get out of hand.

This is the case here. Obviously killing our budding young scientist is an extreme punishment:

You are saying it is okay to kill someone because of what they are going to do. I could track you down and kill you because I claim you will one day try to murder me, and so my legal defence is pre-emptive self defence! That would be crazy.

So it would be very bad to set such a precedent.

So if we can't kill him, he'll try to carry out the research in secret. Then there will not be safety precautions in place. There will be no peer-review of the work, and if one man makes a mistake it could be disastrous for everyone. With teams of scientists working together a mistake is less likely, and if one occurs there are more people informed enough to deal with it.

The road represents the white man being crushed by everything in their white weakness and the Black man walking across it is how they oppress the white man by saving the world before we can! Therefor the black man is evil and the white man must be the car that hits the black man and saves the world!



^Or something

I, Robot is the biggest piece of crap I've ever had the displeasure of watching. If you like mundane action films where Will Smith (yet again! Hooray!) saves the world, you'll love it.

The only thing it has in common with the book is the title.

Firstly: It is clearly not the "biggest piece of crap" I've ever seen, that title is reserved for "Phantom 2040"

Secondly: There are several elements in the film that are inspired by the book.

I will concede however that the product placement was blatant intrusive. I will deliberately avoid ever buying Converse trainers because they interrupted the film. If he'd worn the trainers, that would be fine. The script actually dedicates dialogue to them though, that annoys me.

1 - create an Artificial Inteligence that can talk, breed and evolve.
So if we all end up living in either a "Matrix" or a Terminator-type future, I'll know who to blame

2 - Write software that will make it easier to genetically engineer things
Plot of Gundam SEED (in a nutshell) - people invent genetic engineering, some ppl become engineered (Coordinators), most don't (Naturals). So then Coordinators and Naturals hate each other so much they go to war!!!

3 - use said software to splice various animals (snake/lizard, wolf/cat, bat/bird + something for fire) together to make a breeding pair of small (unless I can make them big :D ) dragons.

:rolleyes:

Your going to die for a cult?

So if we all end up living in either a "Matrix"-type future, I'll know who to blame



How do you know we're not?!?

I, Robot is the biggest piece of crap I've ever had the displeasure of watching. If you like mundane action films where Will Smith (yet again! Hooray!) saves the world, you'll love it.

The only thing it has in common with the book is the title.


See what the Best Writer in the Universe thinks of I, Robot..
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=i_robot

Forget all that AI crud. Commit a huuuuge sin then top yourself.

why not

At least you have some ambitions...
Those stinking hippies should die (or outbread by your new genetical program)

I don't think it's a matter of "should" ... I mean ... you *will* die no matter what, so any cult built around your destruction will eventually be proven 100% right.

He does have this genetical enginering thingy: maybe he'll find the "death"-gene

He does have this genetical enginering thingy: maybe he'll find the "death"-gene

Actually there was this PhD project on death genes that I was considering :D

I don't think it's a matter of "should" ... I mean ... you *will* die no matter what, so any cult built around your destruction will eventually be proven 100% right.

The cult doesn't foretell my doom - they hasten it. there's a difference.

The question of "Should I die" is moot, you will most certainly reguardless of your desires on the matter.

The question of "Should I die" is moot, you will most certainly reguardless of your desires on the matter.

The question is whither he should die before (s)he discovers some crazy form of genetics that destroys the rest of the wolrd, or if (s)he should be allowed to discover it first, then die. Dumb ass.

Actually there was this PhD project on death genes that I was considering :D
why didn't you do it?

The question is whither he should die before (s)he discovers some crazy form of genetics that destroys the rest of the wolrd, or if (s)he should be allowed to discover it first, then die. Dumb ass.

danke/thanks/gracie for explaining that.

Incidently I am a he, but I appreciate the political correctness - plus there could always be a she out there with similarly magalomaniacal aspirations.

why didn't you do it?

Cause the reality of it was that it was just another cancer project. If we can work out the death gene, we can tell the cancer to die. but Everybody is working on cancer, so I intend to work on more obscure sciences.

The question is whither he should die before (s)he discovers some crazy form of genetics that destroys the rest of the wolrd, or if (s)he should be allowed to discover it first, then die. Dumb ass.
You take this seriously but I am the Dumbass? umm ok sure. oh and "whither" is something plants do.Dumbass.

You take this seriously but I am the Dumbass? umm ok sure. oh and "whither" is something plants do.Dumbass.

It wouldn't be so stupid if posts 8 and 22 hadn't covered that joke already in different words.

And everyone else here is half serious - the issue (can we kill someone who hasn't done anything wrong yet inorder to save lives?) is quite serious, though the subject matter (me) is too bizzare to be taken seriously (despite it all being true).

So noeone thinks the dragon is a bad idea?
(bumpedybumb)

You take this seriously but I am the Dumbass? umm ok sure. oh and "whither" is something plants do.Dumbass.
Plants wither. People wonder whether. Annoying people make incorrect 'corrections', and then call names. Nice.

I personally hope to one day create neural implants that achually work on the same quantum prospects as consciousness.

basically ion manipulators that react to psy energy. It would essentially make us all psychic, possibly telekinetik.

I personally hope to one day create neural implants that achually work on the same quantum prospects as consciousness.

basically ion manipulators that react to psy energy. It would essentially make us all psychic, possibly telekinetik.

I don't beleive in the paranormal, so I'm hopeing by "psi-energy" you mean our brain-waves/electromagnetic field or something (quantum mechanics I'm not good at). Sounds cool though.

Plants wither. People wonder whether. Annoying people make incorrect 'corrections', and then call names. Nice.
Fine, whither is not what plants do, however I didnt start with the incorrect usage or the name calling I gave what I got.
"Usage: Whither, Where. Whither properly implies motion to place, and where rest in a place. Whither is now, however, to a great extent, obsolete, except in poetry, or in compositions of a grave and serious character and in language where precision is required. Where has taken its place, as in the question, ``Where are you going?'' Merriam Webster Dictionary

It wouldn't be so stupid if posts 8 and 22 hadn't covered that joke already in different words.

And everyone else here is half serious - the issue (can we kill someone who hasn't done anything wrong yet inorder to save lives?) is quite serious, though the subject matter (me) is too bizzare to be taken seriously (despite it all being true).
EG, on thepoint of pre-emptive killing.
Yes under certain circumstances it is justified.
For instance:
A man tells you he will rape and murder your 4 year old neighbor.
The police cannot act on your hear-say.
We will for this arguement assume you to be teenager(online game forum, this is a reasonable assumption).
Being a teen you are deemed a vindictive trouble maker and are warned of filing false police reports.
When you see the man come to carry out his act, you are ignored in your attempt to gain assitance.
Left with taking action yourself for the greater good, you opt to stop the would be destroyer of this small childs life by taking his.
Wouldnt killing a child molester before he can act be justified?
Or Killing Tim Mcveigh(s/p?) before he could strike at the federal building in OKcity.
Or Hitler in 1935.
Someone with foresight into the mind of violent madness is not only justified, they are obligated to act.
EvilGnomes I apologize for not taking your thread more seriously the ficticious science through me.
As far as killing you, I would have to know you to hazard a guess if you might some day destroy the world. Scientific discovery alone wouldnt be reason enough.

Yes.
What kind of friends do you have?

You will die.

You will eventually so why not start early?

EG, on thepoint of pre-emptive killing.
Yes under certain circumstances it is justified.
For instance:
A man tells you he will rape and murder your 4 year old neighbor.
The police cannot act on your hear-say.
We will for this arguement assume you to be teenager(online game forum, this is a reasonable assumption).
Being a teen you are deemed a vindictive trouble maker and are warned of filing false police reports.
When you see the man come to carry out his act, you are ignored in your attempt to gain assitance.
Left with taking action yourself for the greater good, you opt to stop the would be destroyer of this small childs life by taking his.
Wouldnt killing a child molester before he can act be justified?
Or Killing Tim Mcveigh(s/p?) before he could strike at the federal building in OKcity.
Or Hitler in 1935.
Someone with foresight into the mind of violent madness is not only justified, they are obligated to act.
EvilGnomes I apologize for not taking your thread more seriously the ficticious science through me.
As far as killing you, I would have to know you to hazard a guess if you might some day destroy the world. Scientific discovery alone wouldnt be reason enough.

apology accepted, sorry for lashing out myself.

The science is not fictitious though, it is my actual intention.

1 - Artificial Intelligence: I really intend to create an AI with the goal that it will be capable or reproduction, evolution and speech. As to how intelligent it will be, it's likely to be a dumbass. However with the capacity to evolve, it could theoretically do the matrix thing - personally I consider this chance to be miniscule, but my friend does not.

2 - Genetical thingy - I cannot discuss details, as I will be founding a company with this purpose in mind next year.

3 - Engineering a dragon - OK, now as much as I would like to do this one, I would hazard a guess and say it is implausable for atleast 50 years.

Uuuum... well, I'm not big on the whole genetic research thing. Embryonic stem cells, clones. The like. It's just... cheap, I guess, the clone thing. Why clone? I see no point. Slaves? That's wrong. Spare organs for the injured? Jeez, take away ALL my freedom, why don't you? Make me a FARM. Nope, it's like slavery. And embryonic stem cells are the same thing, you get no chance at life. It's death before life. I guess that's in a way more merciful than the clone thing, but I don't like it. Killing people who have had no taste of life to save others who are alive and dying seems... bad, to me. I think. It's a difficult question.

"It's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all", I think the phrase goes. It's that kind of thing. There's also the "playing God" aspect-I'm not religious, but I still feel we should leave the deep inner workings of things like that alone. Don't "play God".


I think I'm getting a bit off topic. If I'm correct these seem to be the main goals:

1: Engineer pet gene change stuff and splice things.

Changing color of pet's fur... I imagine as long as there are no bad side effects like disease, it is a pet (can't mess up natural camouflage for wildlife), and is not used for camo to kill people, I have no big problems with it. It sounds like a silly idea to me, and I wouldn't buy the product, but I have no moral issues with it, really.

Splicing? No, I don't like that. I'm a BIG nature guy-my friends call me a druid-and messing with animals like that is a no-no for me. Similar problems as with the cloning thing.

2: AI

I'm not sure about my stance on robots and artificial intelligence. I'm uncertain but I do think it's creepy and might end badly.
THE MATRIX

3: Dragon

That, to me, sounds like a childish dream, as well as the nature-lover issue; if you imprison it in a zoo or something, it will never have a good life, but if you set it free it will ruin the natural habitat. Let nature take its course, don't do things it didn't do itself.


That's my opinion. You shouldn't DIE, I don't think, but I don't really think ANYONE should die (other than naturally). You just have bad taste, I guess, or are misguided... the dragon and pet fur color sounds like it would make you loads of cash, but as I said, it sounds childish. I vote "Other".

Splicing? No, I don't like that. I'm a BIG nature guy-my friends call me a druid-and messing with animals like that is a no-no for me. Similar problems as with the cloning thing.
Splicing is a basic genetics technique which may be neccessary (on a small scale) inorder to change pet fur colour, so would you then have (non-violent) issues with it?

I'm not sure about my stance on robots and artificial intelligence. I'm uncertain but I do think it's creepy and might end badly.
THE MATRIX
Fun though :D

3: Dragon

That, to me, sounds like a childish dream, as well as the nature-lover issue; if you imprison it in a zoo or something, it will never have a good life, but if you set it free it will ruin the natural habitat. Let nature take its course, don't do things it didn't do itself.
It would have to be a small pet I guess. Like a cat. I couldn't condemn such a wondrous creation to a life in a zoo, and releasing it to the wild would clearly be catastrophic. So the only real options would be to genetically restrain it (e.g. make them diabetic or something) from escape or wait till we colonise mars (which is clearly an even more childish dream).

Uuuum... well, I'm not big on the whole genetic research thing. Embryonic stem cells, clones. The like. It's just... cheap, I guess, the clone thing. Why clone? I see no point. Slaves? That's wrong. Spare organs for the injured? Jeez, take away ALL my freedom, why don't you? Make me a FARM. Nope, it's like slavery. And embryonic stem cells are the same thing, you get no chance at life. It's death before life. I guess that's in a way more merciful than the clone thing, but I don't like it. Killing people who have had no taste of life to save others who are alive and dying seems... bad, to me. I think. It's a difficult question.
What if I could clone you an organ from your own cells? just growing the organ itself with nothing else? That's the point of stem cell research. Cloning entire people is just stupid, because it makes the population less diverse and thus vulnerable to disease and biological warfare. I agree however that cloning an entire human being for organ harvest is the most evil concept ever devised, and should be punishable as per murder.


And what if I could genetically engineer a pig to have a heart so similar to yours, that It could safely be transplanted into your body?

Come on!

I can't believe you are even considering letting the person behind the name EvilGnomes live! The name he has chosen for his nation itself tells a lot. He's even tried to hide his twisted nature by adding a cute sounding word like "Gnome" there. Even EvilButterflies or EvilFairytinklybluebells would still be evil.

If anyone needs legal justification, then it's obvious that EvilGnomes has already passed the legal term "attempted". Are you people just gonna wait like cows on their way to the slaughterhouse? He still hasn't committed the crime itself, but putting mankind in such a danger warrants punishment for mere attempted actions. Besides, it's pretty obvious that the death penalty should not be used for "normal" crimes, but for such horrendous crimes as EvilGnomes is contemplating it is the only reasonable outcome.

Come on!

I can't believe you are even considering letting the person behind the name EvilGnomes live! The name he has chosen for his nation itself tells a lot. He's even tried to hide his twisted nature by adding a cute sounding word like "Gnome" there. Even EvilButterflies or EvilFairytinklybluebells would still be evil.

If anyone needs legal justification, then it's obvious that EvilGnomes has already passed the legal term "attempted". Are you people just gonna wait like cows on their way to the slaughterhouse? He still hasn't committed the crime itself, but putting mankind in such a danger warrants punishment for mere attempted actions. Besides, it's pretty obvious that the death penalty should not be used for "normal" crimes, but for such horrendous crimes as EvilGnomes is contemplating it is the only reasonable outcome.

*strokes fluorescent green kitty menacingly*

You will never penetrate my volcano fortress. Release the ninja death monkeys!
:mp5:

No you shouldn't die...well as long as i get my own dragon im happy. If i dont well then ya u should. lol

I rather like these ideas. I don't see what's so wrong with them. I am one of those people that are gunna be like **** those movies aren't real that's not going to happen and make AI. Jurassic park? Next time we will just bomb the island. Goodbye dinosaur.

Or we will use one of these cool guns :gundge:

Um, about the dragon thing--

Have you ever read Anne McCaffrey's series The Dragonriders of Pern? ( :D great author AND books) At least the first one, Dragonsdawn, involves genetically engineering dragons.

And, Dalekia? He hasn't done anything yet. You're being kinda harsh. Personally, I think EvilGnomes is a fluffy little bunny rabbit at heart. :D

Yeah, I'm cracked. ;)

A friend of mine tells me that someday he will form a cult, intent on my demise.

Something to do with how I'm going to inadvertently destroy mankind...

for the record, I intend to do the following in my life:
1 - create an Artificial Inteligence that can talk, breed and evolve.
2 - Write software that will make it easier to genetically engineer things - e.g. customise your pet's fur colour
3 - use said software to splice various animals (snake/lizard, wolf/cat, bat/bird + something for fire) together to make a breeding pair of small (unless I can make them big :D ) dragons.

Snake/Lizard might be possible. Perhaps even wolf/cat. But i doubt you would manage bat/bird. Besides, you wont end up with true chimeras. You would end up with a snake with lizard DNA, or a bird with bat DNA. Rethink 3.

I share all of the objectives. I intend to help populate the earth with designer plants and animals specifically meant to sustain humans and the environment, as well as create evolving intelligence which could be used in artificially manufactured bodies to live alongside humans as servants and companions, taking care of all of our needs (even our emotional ones,) leaving us free to focus on science, arts, and religion. Eventually maybe such intelligent being could be treated as a human. We could truly consider us gods for having created something like us or better than us, but this will take a while. Note that i dont expect this to come to pass until well into the ending years of my lifetime but we can be hopeful.

Im sad i cannot be part of your venture, i am planning to become a molecular biologist though. Maybe, just maybe, you will take off one day and be my boss.

Here are some shorter term objectives:

Retroviral treatments for things like muscle atrophy, obesity, and degenerative mental disorders. Try focusing on things that can appeal to a large target market rather than spend lots trying to cure horrible diseases. The big guys can handle that.

See if you can make processes that can allow the growth of human tissue. Maybe some time in the future make a process to cultivate designer tissues which might be used on robots and machinery.

See if you can put work into Mind-Machine-Interface. The university of toronto might be a good place to get information from.



I will persue my college education and hopefully help make a mark in such an exciting field.

On a nearly totally irrevelant side note, i think the perfect artificial body for an intelligent robot should be in the shape of a female feline anthromorph.

I see nothing wrong with your ideals as if successful it will no doubt result in a severe decrease in the human population of this planet.

Gossamers Paradise: If your happy with either paying for it or picking it up from the pound, then yes you can have one.

Talent: Haven't read it but I will now, thanks :)

The class A cows: I made it sound easier than it actually is. What I intend to do is not splice them together, but to elucidate the purpose and interactions between each of their genes - then build a new organism from the ground up. Clearly this will not be viable until we have a complete understanding of genetics, and I'll be lucky if I'm still alive when we accomplish that. Regarding employment, insane visionaries will always be welcome at my firm, aslong as it is successful enough to afford them (which is a big if).

Nazi Deutschland Axis: *shudder*

everyone: how old does this have to become before I get accused of trolling?

Come on!

I can't believe you are even considering letting the person behind the name EvilGnomes live! The name he has chosen for his nation itself tells a lot. He's even tried to hide his twisted nature by adding a cute sounding word like "Gnome" there. Even EvilButterflies or EvilFairytinklybluebells would still be evil.

*strokes fluorescent green kitty menacingly*

You will never penetrate my volcano fortress. Release the ninja death monkeys! :mp5:

ROFL
Dang, I loves me my monkeys. Death and ninjas not so much, but still funny.

ROFL
Dang, I loves me my monkeys. Death and ninjas not so much, but still funny.

hehe, the monkeys were another idea I had. Originally they were Zulu death monkeys, but I figured no army of undead monkeys is complete without ninja.

Sadly I have yet to come up with a way to make them a reality, but I'm working on it...

If you manage to create dragons, you've got my support. Maybe I'll start a cult dedicated to your protection....
*grins, sharpens knife*

Right time to sort this out. I am the friend that believes EvilGnomes must die, and am currently forming an organization to fulfill said purpose (Cult is such an ugly word, so many negative connotations, like killing people, lol).

The reality is my friend EvilGnomes really does intend to create an AI, capable of reproduction, evolution and speech. Should he succeed, he has stated the AI would be likely be a dumbass, I agree. The question is does a dumbass entity with the capacity for true reproduction and evolution remain a dumbass for long? Let us take into consideration the potential speed of reproduction of a computer program. Your normal computer virus is bad enough, but add the capacity to learn and evolve to the point of being considered an artificial intelligence….a nightmare.

Dalekia had it perfectly right when she said Killing EvilGnomes would be a valuable precedent which could be cited when other madmen/women need to be executed to save mankind. This is not to say that research could not be carried out in an open monitored fashion.

I believe that if a government or another relevant legal body were to look at EvilGnomes research and say ‘that’s looking dangerous Stop That’ EvilGnomes would happily appear to stop.

If it is possible someone will do it. This is why I think that some idiot will release EvilGnomes AI creation onto the internet, giving it the perfect environment in which to replicate and evolve, this is why I think that someone will release dragons into the wild allowing them to breed uncheck, destroy the natural order and EVOLVE. This is why I am committed to killing my close friend of six years. I know someone will eventually create what he intends to, I do not save the world, I merely slow its destruction.

So Who’s With Me????
:sniper:

If you manage to create dragons, you've got my support. Maybe I'll start a cult dedicated to your protection....
*grins, sharpens knife*

hehe, tough luck my friend - it seems the consumer will fight for their right to own dragons :mp5:

A friend of mine tells me that someday he will form a cult, intent on my demise.

Something to do with how I'm going to inadvertently destroy mankind...

for the record, I intend to do the following in my life:
1 - create an Artificial Inteligence that can talk, breed and evolve.
2 - Write software that will make it easier to genetically engineer things - e.g. customise your pet's fur colour
3 - use said software to splice various animals (snake/lizard, wolf/cat, bat/bird + something for fire) together to make a breeding pair of small (unless I can make them big :D ) dragons.

So is he right? must I be killed for the good of mankind?

Can people stop telling me I will die? I know I will die, and the joke was funny the first time. :headbang: The question is clearly referring to weather or not my life should be terminated prematurely. NOT as to whether or not I will die eventually.

YOU STOLE ALL MY IDEAS!!!! I'm suing! :mad:

Kill him and hide the body first. Hide it at least 300 miles away. It may be good to chop him up and disseminate the parts as well.

Kill him and hide the body first. Hide it at least 300 miles away. It may be good to chop him up and disseminate the parts as well.

Take it out to the ocean. Tie some bricks to it to make sure it sinks and doesn't wash up on shore. The sharks and other organisms will take care of the rest.

I am hellbent on creating things that might decide we are obsolete. as per the matrix.

Should someone kill me before my work is complete, or may I continue and doom us all to destruction?

I'm not particularly bothered, because I don't think you can do it.

I'm not particularly bothered, because I don't think you can do it.

It's exactly that kind of attitude that makes me so darned determined to succeed.

and I will... the dragons might be a long shot, but the rest of it shall come to pass (even if the AI winds up very stupid).

and as for the rest of you, I think possibly you should worry about disposing of my work rather than my body. Depending on how soon my doom occurs of course.

I was considering a 'sporting accident'
EvilGnomes and I go to a martial arts class together and the sensei of the class was the first person to join the cult er.. organisation. So one day during sparing... whoops.

The thing I don't get is all the people that seem to think I'm perfectly sane.

The thing I don't get is all the people that seem to think I'm perfectly sane.

EvilGnomes is not sane. He must die to save us all!!!
:sniper:

EvilGnomes is not sane. He must die to save us all!!!
:sniper:
(speaking into a tiny radio)
~Squad 3, a target has been located. You know the plan....~

"The living must die so that life may live."

A qoute from "The Charge Of the Dark God" author unknown.

Hey EvilGnomes, I think I got some of your mail by mistake.

The letter I got reads:

"Dear Mr. Ruler-guy...thing,
The shipment of ninja death monkeys has been delayed at the Port Authority, so we will be staffing the security division of the volcano lair with Extremely Inept Kung-Fu Henchmen Who Will Go After Invaders One By One And Get Killed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
-Bob, human resources."

Sorry dude...

By the way, I voted that you should live, for no other reason other than you're just so fuzzy-wuzzy adorable. Also AI's are nifty.

Hey EvilGnomes, I think I got some of your mail by mistake.

The letter I got reads:

"Dear Mr. Ruler-guy...thing,
The shipment of ninja death monkeys has been delayed at the Port Authority, so we will be staffing the security division of the volcano lair with Extremely Inept Kung-Fu Henchmen Who Will Go After Invaders One By One And Get Killed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
-Bob, human resources."

Sorry dude...

Fortunately (or is that unfortunately?) I've secretly posted squirrel snipers around the volcano lair to eliminate intruders.

Fortunately (or is that unfortunately?) I've secretly posted squirrel snipers around the volcano lair to eliminate intruders.

Oh, then there's nothing to worry about. Stupid me. Carry on.

By the way, I voted that you should live, for no other reason other than you're just so fuzzy-wuzzy adorable. Also AI's are nifty.
Why thank you :D
we will be staffing the security division of the volcano lair with Extremely Inept Kung-Fu Henchmen Who Will Go After Invaders One By One And Get Killed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
:eek: no monkeys!?! but Vash will get me for sure if I have no Monkeys!!! :eek:
(speaking into a tiny radio)
~Squad 3, a target has been located. You know the plan....~
*grabs fluorescent green kitty and makes a break for the escape pods*
You'll Never Take Me Alive!! oh crap that's the idea isn't it...

These squirrel snipers... Do they have high tech invisibility gear and infra-red goggles?

Cause the ninja zulu death monkeys had three adjectives, so I find myself feeling vulnerable without invisible high-tech squirrel snippers or something to that effect...

cause if intruders get past them then All I've got is the kung-fu henchmen.

These squirrel snipers... Do they have high tech invisibility gear and infra-red goggles?

Cause the ninja zulu death monkeys had three adjectives, so I find myself feeling vulnerable without invisible high-tech squirrel snippers or something to that effect...

They're so super high tech that the other adjectives are hidden as anograms of the words Sniper Squirrels, so you're fine Gnomes, don't worry bout anything.

Except super-soldiers.... god I hate them...

They're so super high tech that the other adjectives are hidden as anograms of the words Sniper Squirrels, so you're fine Gnomes, don't worry bout anything.

Except super-soldiers.... god I hate them...

Somehow my failure to identify a single annagram (sp?) does not leave me feeling safe...

and anyway, aren't super-soldiers usually created by evil nazi supervillains? what do the nazis have against me (besides my intense hatred of them... but they don't know that)?

Somehow my failure to identify a single annagram (sp?) does not leave me feeling safe...

and anyway, aren't super-soldiers usually created by evil nazi supervillains? what do the nazis have against me (besides my intense hatred of them... but they don't know that)?

Wow, you actually looked for the anograms? Maybe you deserve to die after all, nerd-lord. ;)

besides, yes there are, what about Super? (SniPER sqUirells)

Wow, you actually looked for the anograms? Maybe you deserve to die after all, nerd-lord. ;)

well, just a little - I was kinda wondering actually if you were nerdy enough to have found one in there somewhere.

*sigh*
Clearly I was just too nerdy to notice the sarcasm...

So you'll be joining the cult too then? cause I'm too nerdy to be allowed to live.

Sorry that was mean :( But it isn't all sarcastic, there are a couple. like Super, thats the only one i found.

I'd be coming for you first =)

Once i had dreams of Artificial Intelligence aswell, although the sole purpose was that it should substitute mankind - i honestly believed machines were perfect. Now i realize that they have as many flaws as their creator. So now i fight perfection instead :)

(Don't worry, i don't see point in suffering - i'll put you out fast, unless i want to toy around with my sword)

Wow... this thread is turning kinda morbid, so Imma leave before people start to think that I'm a piece of shit that deserves to die...

And I'm not in the cult, anybody who joins a cult is stupid and anybody who starts a cult is gay. You're friend sounds like an evil evil person.

A friend of mine tells me that someday he will form a cult, intent on my demise.

Something to do with how I'm going to inadvertently destroy mankind...

for the record, I intend to do the following in my life:
1 - create an Artificial Inteligence that can talk, breed and evolve.
2 - Write software that will make it easier to genetically engineer things - e.g. customise your pet's fur colour
3 - use said software to splice various animals (snake/lizard, wolf/cat, bat/bird + something for fire) together to make a breeding pair of small (unless I can make them big :D ) dragons.

So is he right? must I be killed for the good of mankind?

Can people stop telling me I will die? I know I will die, and the joke was funny the first time. :headbang: The question is clearly referring to weather or not my life should be terminated prematurely. NOT as to whether or not I will die eventually.

Ok, maybe I will join that cult, but i got one question first.

How do you want to splice genes with software?

Whoops seems like I missunderstood that cult thingie, what I mean is, I will join YOUR cult.

Fine, whither is not what plants do, however I didnt start with the incorrect usage or the name calling I gave what I got.
"Usage: Whither, Where. Whither properly implies motion to place, and where rest in a place. Whither is now, however, to a great extent, obsolete, except in poetry, or in compositions of a grave and serious character and in language where precision is required. Where has taken its place, as in the question, ``Where are you going?'' Merriam Webster Dictionary


EG, on thepoint of pre-emptive killing.
Yes under certain circumstances it is justified.
For instance:
A man tells you he will rape and murder your 4 year old neighbor.
The police cannot act on your hear-say.
We will for this arguement assume you to be teenager(online game forum, this is a reasonable assumption).
Being a teen you are deemed a vindictive trouble maker and are warned of filing false police reports.
When you see the man come to carry out his act, you are ignored in your attempt to gain assitance.
Left with taking action yourself for the greater good, you opt to stop the would be destroyer of this small childs life by taking his.
Wouldnt killing a child molester before he can act be justified?
Or Killing Tim Mcveigh(s/p?) before he could strike at the federal building in OKcity.
Or Hitler in 1935.
Someone with foresight into the mind of violent madness is not only justified, they are obligated to act.
EvilGnomes I apologize for not taking your thread more seriously the ficticious science through me.
As far as killing you, I would have to know you to hazard a guess if you might some day destroy the world. Scientific discovery alone wouldnt be reason enough.

Hey, I got an old german joke for you, I'll try to translate it as well as possible.

About twenty years before the beginning of WWI a man from Vienna visits a carnival. On that carnival he visits the fortunetellers tent and within that tent the fortuneteller tells him about his future, and it is a future truly horrible in its nature: "Today you will be responsible for the death of MILLIONS of peoples!"... Most worried about that future the man goes home. back in Vienna he sees a small child standing in front of a shop and a carriage which horses have gone wild. The boy didn't notice the carriage yet and so the man thinks "HA! but I can save at least one of them!". With that thought in his mind he ran over the street, grabbed the boy and saved him. "Whew! That was close. Say, whats your name little boy?" The boy happy to be alive says "ADOLF!"

funny, huh?

and anyway, aren't super-soldiers usually created by evil nazi supervillains? what do the nazis have against me (besides my intense hatred of them... but they don't know that)?


With all that talk about super-soldiers I got one question that is torturing me for years now. Those captain Amerika comics, That guy was created in WWII. The allies fought the Germans and their "evil nazi supervillains" who had "super-soldiers/über-menschen" created... and yet the amerikans created a über-mensch (transl.: super-human) to defeat them.... somehow i think this is confusing...

I think you should kill your freind before he gets a chance to kill you. Oh an make yourself a cyborg that way you can be halfway between dead an alive all the time. If you can do that ill give you a key to my undeground lair

A friend of mine tells me that someday he will form a cult, intent on my demise.

Something to do with how I'm going to inadvertently destroy mankind...

for the record, I intend to do the following in my life:
1 - create an Artificial Inteligence that can talk, breed and evolve.
2 - Write software that will make it easier to genetically engineer things - e.g. customise your pet's fur colour
3 - use said software to splice various animals (snake/lizard, wolf/cat, bat/bird + something for fire) together to make a breeding pair of small (unless I can make them big :D ) dragons.
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Hokay...
1. A.I. will always be stupid, you may think you have it programed perfectly. But then when you fire it up and tell it to get you a coke it will smash into a closed door or something.
2. Software to make it easier to genetically engineer things..... That's nice, but I bet someone already has that done such as the U.S. Government, or something.. And for the fur color ect. I only have one thing to say.. The point of doing that is..?
3. Yeah, sure.. But creating a dragon would be like looking for a needle in a barn filled with hay..

Sure, they can be invisible high tech sniper squirrels.
*hands out invisibility gear, energy weapons, and other such things*

2. Software to make it easier to genetically engineer things..... That's nice, but I bet someone already has that done such as the U.S. Government, or something.. And for the fur color ect.

How do you want to splice genes with software?

Undoubtably it has been done already, but my method is unique (and I beleive superior) to all those that have gone before.

In the interests of patenting it, I cannot describe the method.

I'd be coming for you first =)

Once i had dreams of Artificial Intelligence aswell, although the sole purpose was that it should substitute mankind - i honestly believed machines were perfect. Now i realize that they have as many flaws as their creator. So now i fight perfection instead :)

(Don't worry, i don't see point in suffering - i'll put you out fast, unless i want to toy around with my sword)

Dude, why on earth would you want to have yourself replaced?

And going out sword fighting sounds like a nice way to go really, me and my Katana will take you on.

yeah you could be like mengel and inject dyes into pupils to see if eye colour will change permanetly and the run off to argentina :mp5: :sniper: :gundge:

Undoubtably it has been done already, but my method is unique (and I beleive superior) to all those that have gone before.

In the interests of patenting it, I cannot describe the method.

Ok, whatever you do, you'll have my fullest support. It is my believe humanity can not advance without your secret and utterly superior new method of gene-splicing.

thankyou for the vote of support... I shall just hope it wasn't quite as sarcastic as I fear.

but what the heck did that other guy mean about the eye injecting? never heard of mengel. I knew mendel studied genetics, but aren't aware of him injecting people. and Lamarck also studied genetics, and that sounds like something he would try.

3 - use said software to splice various animals (snake/lizard, wolf/cat, bat/bird + something for fire) together to make a breeding pair of small (unless I can make them big :D ) dragons.


Cool.. Can I have one?? I'll even settle for the small retarded ones you'll probably make first while trying to master the recipe.
??? Do you have any henchmen for your Evil Laboratory yet???
I'm looking for a job..