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Cancer

Techon
26-08-2004, 01:29
Well, two years ago, on October 22nd 2002, I lost my grandpa to cancer. I hated the world after that, the loss of a loved one, but it something we have to deal with, and just today, just an hour ago my mother told me that my other Grandpa, he has a cancerous tumor on his brain, and they cannot perform surgury on it because it would kill him.
So they are doing radioactive therapy, and then kemo, but the doctors say he only has another few years...
...thats two close relatives I have lost to cancer. Which makes me wonder, why do we argue and complain about all the other things in the world, we have so much money on this god forsaken planet, but why don't we put more of it into research for a prevention for cancer? Its on the bigges problems, everyone seems to be affected by it, so here I am, tears going down my face as I write this, but is it going to influence the government? probably not, they will just consider me another teen who hates the world..and right now.. I do...because nobody does anything to help prevent terrible diseases like this, and I know we are researching it, but obvious not enough. Please give your comments thoughts and opinion
Suicidal Librarians
26-08-2004, 01:35
Thank you very much for depressing me. But you do have a point, cancer is a big problem in the world today.
Techon
26-08-2004, 01:40
well sorry for depressing you but think how I feel, my Grandpa just got a limited time left to live, and a rather short time at that
Suicidal Librarians
26-08-2004, 01:41
well sorry for depressing you but think how I feel, my Grandpa just got a limited time left to live, and a rather short time at that

My uncle has skin cancer, he hasn't had any real problem with it, but it could get bad any time.
Opal Isle
26-08-2004, 01:43
well sorry for depressing you but think how I feel, my Grandpa just got a limited time left to live, and a rather short time at that
The Internet has enough emo already. I can't be heartless and say "Get over it," but I can be honest and say that probably not a lot of people care.
imported_NightHawk
26-08-2004, 01:43
I am sorry to hear about your grandpa.
Purly Euclid
26-08-2004, 01:43
You think of it differently when you had cancer, like myself. It may sound weird to people, but it was the best experience I ever had. It was a brain tumor, they needed to operate on it, and it partially disabled my right side. But I thank God that he gave it to me. It was the best experience I had, as it altered my whole outlook on life. So I guess it can be hard on you. However, I'm sure that your two grandpas have enjoyed the experience. You've probably never been diagnosed with anything approaching a terminal illness, so I don't think you'll understand. I'm not saying, of course, that cancer isn't horrible, but with an illness like that, viewpoints are changed. So in the course of the next few years, talk to your grandpa. I don't think you'll be like me, as I saw my cancer as a gift from God. But you won't walk away less developed, either.
Techon
26-08-2004, 01:46
You think of it differently when you had cancer, like myself. It may sound weird to people, but it was the best experience I ever had. It was a brain tumor, they needed to operate on it, and it partially disabled my right side. But I thank God that he gave it to me. It was the best experience I had, as it altered my whole outlook on life. So I guess it can be hard on you. However, I'm sure that your two grandpas have enjoyed the experience. You've probably never been diagnosed with anything approaching a terminal illness, so I don't think you'll understand. I'm not saying, of course, that cancer isn't horrible, but with an illness like that, viewpoints are changed. So in the course of the next few years, talk to your grandpa. I don't think you'll be like me, as I saw my cancer as a gift from God. But you won't walk away less developed, either.


yes I agree, in cases where it will...kill you...my mom said it is easier to have the cancer then to be the ones who watch the person who has cancer, because when you have it you know your time is going to be up. When your one who watches you have to suffer afterwards
Techon
26-08-2004, 01:46
The Internet has enough emo already. I can't be heartless and say "Get over it," but I can be honest and say that probably not a lot of people care.

and I can be honest and say if you were in my place your point of view would be the complete and exact opposite, because by posting this I know that there are others who went and are going through the same pain
Opal Isle
26-08-2004, 01:49
and I can be honest and say if you were in my place your point of view would be the complete and exact opposite, because by posting this I know that there are others who went and are going through the same pain
How do you know I haven't been in multiple similar situations before? You don't know if I have or not because I'm not an attention whore in this manner.
Techon
26-08-2004, 01:51
ok listen dude I wasn't saying you haven't I was just pointing out that if you were the one who was currently going through it, and if you really think no one cares your wrong because those who acutally have feelings can help
Opal Isle
26-08-2004, 01:52
ok listen dude I wasn't saying you haven't I was just pointing out that if you were the one who was currently going through it, and if you really think no one cares your wrong because those who acutally have feelings can help
No, you were saying that if I were in your situation, I would do the same thing. I was saying that you don't know that I haven't been in a similar situation therefore it is impossible for you to say that.
Techon
26-08-2004, 01:54
but you are as well putting words in others mouths that no one cares, and if you have been in this situation, how many times have you been in it?
Opal Isle
26-08-2004, 01:56
but you are as well putting words in others mouths that no one cares, and if you have been in this situation, how many times have you been in it?
I don't ask for other people's sympathy.
Techon
26-08-2004, 01:58
maybe but maybe I do, maybe I need to know that others are going through the same thing because people deal with things different ways, and in those different ways others who do things differently don't agree example me and you
Opal Isle
26-08-2004, 01:59
Well, logically, wouldn't everyone who knows your grandpa be going through the same thing? It's the fact that it's on the internet that makes it bad.
Techon
26-08-2004, 01:59
like a more added on, I ask for sympathy too know there is still some good in this world and that we don't all just care about ourselves I would share sypmathy to anyone going through what I am going through
Opal Isle
26-08-2004, 02:00
like a more added on, I ask for sympathy too know there is still some good in this world and that we don't all just care about ourselves I would share sypmathy to anyone going through what I am going through
There is no humanity in electronics.
Purly Euclid
26-08-2004, 02:00
yes I agree, in cases where it will...kill you...my mom said it is easier to have the cancer then to be the ones who watch the person who has cancer, because when you have it you know your time is going to be up. When your one who watches you have to suffer afterwards
It's always true that the patient has an easier time. I was also on the watching side, when my dad died of a brain tumor. Well, he was fairly jovial about it. He even planned his own funeral. When someone asks me where's my dad, I say 6 ft. under. It may sound horrible, but if my dad were alive, he'd love it.
Snake Venom
26-08-2004, 02:00
Well earlier this year my grandmother died from cancer.
Techon
26-08-2004, 02:01
Well earlier this year my grandmother died from cancer.

I am sorry to hear, like I said my other gpa died to cancer two years ago so I can relate, and I know what its like
Snake Venom
26-08-2004, 02:02
They need to find some kind of cure.
Techon
26-08-2004, 02:03
It's always true that the patient has an easier time. I was also on the watching side, when my dad died of a brain tumor. Well, he was fairly jovial about it. He even planned his own funeral. When someone asks me where's my dad, I say 6 ft. under. It may sound horrible, but if my dad were alive, he'd love it.

yes when we sprinkled my Grandpa Moore's ashes, our van got stuck in the mud so we were constantly making jokes like
'choose a perfect time to die Wayne'
and then we would laugh and know he would be laughing with us if he were with us
Techon
26-08-2004, 02:03
They need to find some kind of cure.

I agree 100%
Sir Stephen Paul
26-08-2004, 02:03
Hey. The government is doing stuff to help stop these diseases. They are researching on effective ways to stop and rid them from the human body. It may seem like they aren't doing much because they can't. They can't cure it on the spot because there isn't a way yet. Just chill out. They use Chemo therapy but that isn't the best sloution because it hurts the body also. It burns the body's inside. Basically, you're poisioning yourself to kill of these abnormal cells.
Snake Venom
26-08-2004, 02:06
My grandmother really got bad when she took these really strong pills.That was the worst...
Techon
26-08-2004, 02:06
Hey. The government is doing stuff to help stop these diseases. They are researching on effective ways to stop and rid them from the human body. It may seem like they aren't doing much because they can't. They can't cure it on the spot because there isn't a way yet. Just chill out. They use Chemo therapy but that isn't the best sloution because it hurts the body also. It burns the body's inside. Basically, you're poisioning yourself to kill of these abnormal cells.

yeah and I already said I knew that, but still we should put more work into it...
...and kemo doesn't always work, my gpa Moore went through half a year of kemo, and was fine for another half a year, but then his cancer came back and he passed away
Globes R Us
26-08-2004, 02:40
Historically, we in the 'West' live longer, on average, than ever before. We all have to die of something, sometime. It's almost unbearable when we lose someone we love but that's the deal we get when we're born. If not cancer, then heart disease or any variety of ways of shuffling off this mortal coil. Less people die of cancer than ever because there has been so much effort and money pumped into research world-wide. The best thing you can do, personally, is to donate as much as you can afford to a cancer charity. You will then at least feel you have done what you can. Then cherish the remaining time with your grandad.
Roach-Busters
26-08-2004, 02:41
Well, two years ago, on October 22nd 2002, I lost my grandpa to cancer. I hated the world after that, the loss of a loved one, but it something we have to deal with, and just today, just an hour ago my mother told me that my other Grandpa, he has a cancerous tumor on his brain, and they cannot perform surgury on it because it would kill him.
So they are doing radioactive therapy, and then kemo, but the doctors say he only has another few years...
...thats two close relatives I have lost to cancer. Which makes me wonder, why do we argue and complain about all the other things in the world, we have so much money on this god forsaken planet, but why don't we put more of it into research for a prevention for cancer? Its on the bigges problems, everyone seems to be affected by it, so here I am, tears going down my face as I write this, but is it going to influence the government? probably not, they will just consider me another teen who hates the world..and right now.. I do...because nobody does anything to help prevent terrible diseases like this, and I know we are researching it, but obvious not enough. Please give your comments thoughts and opinion

I'm sorry about your grandpa. I can sympathize, believe me. Yesterday was the one-year anniversary of my grandpa's death (he didn't die of cancer, however).
Techon
26-08-2004, 02:43
I sympathize for you as well, loosing anyone no matter how is tough
Silent Earth 3
26-08-2004, 02:43
ok if you say that well then, my grandpa is the founder of Dei Fratellei, Silver Fleece, and Star Cross products, for those of you who use those, I know its not many, you have my gpa to thank who is currently very sick


are you trying to make us feel obligated to feel bad for you? now believe me, i know what your going through. and it sucks. but dont try and get people to feel guilty about how they feel about your situation.
Roach-Busters
26-08-2004, 02:43
I sympathize for you as well, loosing anyone no matter how is tough

Thanks.
Techon
26-08-2004, 02:45
are you trying to make us feel obligated to feel bad for you? now believe me, i know what your going through. and it sucks. but dont try and get people to feel guilty about how they feel about your situation.

no I wasn't trying to do that I just got out of control I am sorry and will delete that out
Tuesday Heights
26-08-2004, 03:35
I'm sorry to hear about your grandpa. Check your telegram box when you get the chance.
Techon
26-08-2004, 22:04
ok
Arenestho
26-08-2004, 23:31
Thanks to tear jerking people like you, my mom makes a lot of money in cancer research, woot! I lost my grandfather to cancer as well, it's a pretty common happening it seems, but one must accept death, it happens.

But yes you are right that with all the money in this world, a great deal more could be spent trying to find a cure for cancer.

But here is an interesting tidbit. When someone uses radiation and kemotherapy they are trading one thing for another. Doctors are replacing one bad thing, cancer, with another: radiation, toxins and chemicals, which ultimately lead to more problems. Perhaps the cure truely lies in cleansing the body instead of filling it with more deterimental substances and in the case of many other illnesses, stopping the body's natual ways of removing them.