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so....

every time someone gets it in their mind to talk about creationism they start spouting God this and Bible that...

what about other creationism.

Lets assume, for comical and other logistic purposes, that all the scientific observed data about evolution is a anti-christian conspiracy.

why is Christian creationism more applicable than Hindu or Islamic? (lets stay away from more humanistic religions... i dont want to confuse the christians)

We evolved from monkeys.

Mainly because the Christians have the lowest tolerance about anyone having ideas contrary to their's so make a big deal of it. They are also the most vocal with their version of the world. To boot, they are the dominant religion in the western world where all the controversy over Evolution vs. Creationism takes place.

Other creation myths are just as applicable.

so....

every time someone gets it in their mind to talk about creationism they start spouting God this and Bible that...

what about other creationism.

Lets assume, for comical and other logistic purposes, that all the scientific observed data about evolution is a anti-christian conspiracy.

why is Christian creationism more applicable than Hindu or Islamic? (lets stay away from more humanistic religions... i dont want to confuse the christians)

How about because I'm too ignorant to know what the other creationism viewpoints are? Please share.

hehe, it's a huge conspiracy, of course that explains it... :headbang:

A low tolerance? Actually I really couldn't care less about the religion the other guy follows, so long as they don't try and shove it down my throat...like those door to door guys that are dressed like Agent Smith....

Abolutely. It doesn't matter how it's supposed to have come about, whether literally or as allusion. It's not the particulars of Creation that should matter so much as Creation itself. Ain't it just grand? It's very, very big indeed, and filled to bursting with wonderful and terrible things. Anything past that is entirely subjective...

A low tolerance? Actually I really couldn't care less about the religion the other guy follows, so long as they don't try and shove it down my throat...like those door to door guys that are dressed like Agent Smith....

When they come to your door and ask you, "Have you found Jesus?" Look them right in the eye and whisper, "Yes. Now it's my turn to hide. Don't tell him where I am." :D

When they come to your door and ask you, "Have you found Jesus?" Look them right in the eye and whisper, "Yes. Now it's my turn to hide. Don't tell him where I am." :D

you could say he is in your pants

lol Lunatic :D

you could say he is in your pants

I could, but it won't produce that nice puzzled blank stare I so enjoy.

Mainly because the Christians have the lowest tolerance about anyone having ideas contrary to their's so make a big deal of it. They are also the most vocal with their version of the world. To boot, they are the dominant religion in the western world where all the controversy over Evolution vs. Creationism takes place.

Other creation myths are just as applicable.

Ever hear of Hindu nationalists? They used to like control India.
Its important to make the distinction between Fundamnetalists and the relatively paleteable religious elements.

Very funny.

First of all, Islamic, Jewish and Christian stories of how the world began are *gasp* the same, all taken from the book of Genisis in the Bible. Different languages, yes, but other than that, no different.

Hinduism is for the most part confined to India, Bangladesh, Burma, Nepal and Sri Lanka, as is Buddhism to China, the Koreas and Japan. I am not saying it extends further than that, I know well that it does, I just don't feel like writing another 30 countries.

I think we look at the Judeo-Christian/Islamic version because it's the most prevalent. Sorry. Plus, I personally subscribe to it as truth.

-R. S. of UC

why is Christian creationism more applicable than Hindu or Islamic? (lets stay away from more humanistic religions... i dont want to confuse the christians)

cultural prejudice i suppose. personally, i've always been partial to the origin stories of the various pacific islanders.

The Mayans had a wonderful take on it, as I recall- wasn't the Earth growing on the back of a colossal turtle? Or was it a reptile...Geez, I can't remember for some reason...

cultural prejudice i suppose. personally, i've always been partial to the origin stories of the various pacific islanders.

Which are?

since noeone else is doing it I'll see if I know any...

um....

Australian Aboriginals:
The Rainbow Serpent shaped the land by its passage across it... I think the animals all burst out of its carcass or something.
Something like that anyway.

Those asking after various creation stories may want to start here. (http://www.internet-at-work.com/hos_mcgrane/creation/cstorymenu.html)

The universe was created by Gisoolg, who first created Nisgam, the giver of life and bringer of heat, as a great ball of fire hurtling through the skies. Gisoolg then created Ootsitgamoo, the land we walk upon. Ootsitgamoo provided the bodies for all living things, while Nisgam gave life to all living things.

I know this to be true, for the elders have told me so.

First of all, ISLAMIC, Jewish and Christian stories of how the world began are *gasp* the same, all taken from the book of Genisis in the Bible. Different languages, yes, but other than that, no different.

Hinduism is for the most part confined to India, Bangladesh, Burma, Nepal and Sri Lanka, as is Buddhism to China, the Koreas and Japan. I am not saying it extends further than that, I know well that it does, I just don't feel like writing another 30 countries.

I think we look at the Judeo-Christian/Islamic version because it's the most prevalent. Sorry. Plus, I personally subscribe to it as truth.

-R. S. of UC
Your saying the Islamic take their story from a book they dont believe in?? I wouldn't know but that sounds strange?
Ever hear of the Qur'an?

I just had to respond to the second comment. We didn't evolve from monkeys, and monkeys didn't evolve from us. Ever heard of the common ancestor? Anyone? No? :sniper: Death to all the ignorant!

But I digress. You know what would be interesting? Fanatical followers of evolution. That would be cool. Holy wars, etc.

Your saying the Islamic take their story from a book they dont believe in?? I wouldn't know but that sounds strange?
Ever hear of the Qur'an?
Read up on islam. They take the bible as the first revalations of god to men. The koran and hadith are the last and most authoritative. That's why christians and jews can live as second class citizens to be abused, but officially tolerated under sharia, while others are subject to indiscriminate killing. Nice religion.

I just had to respond to the second comment. We didn't evolve from monkeys, and monkeys didn't evolve from us. Ever heard of the common ancestor? Anyone? No? :sniper: Death to all the ignorant!

But I digress. You know what would be interesting? Fanatical followers of evolution. That would be cool. Holy wars, etc.
No, Unholy wars! We will crush all that is holy!

Very funny.

First of all, Islamic, Jewish and Christian stories of how the world began are *gasp* the same, all taken from the book of Genisis in the Bible. Different languages, yes, but other than that, no different.

Hinduism is for the most part confined to India, Bangladesh, Burma, Nepal and Sri Lanka, as is Buddhism to China, the Koreas and Japan. I am not saying it extends further than that, I know well that it does, I just don't feel like writing another 30 countries.

I think we look at the Judeo-Christian/Islamic version because it's the most prevalent. Sorry. Plus, I personally subscribe to it as truth.

-R. S. of UC

Nice try, but, of course wrong.

The Bible takes the old testament texts from Torah - you have it backwards.

And, of course, if you've ever READ those books in the 'different languages' you would know how different they are.

Oh, and you're wrong about Hinduism, also. I guess you've never been to Leicester or Bradford.

Feel free to subscribe to the Genesis account as true, if you need to. It's a nice story, sure enough. Unfortunately, 'nice' and 'true' have no necessary connection...

Read up on islam. They take the bible as the first revalations of god to men. The koran and hadith are the last and most authoritative. That's why christians and jews can live as second class citizens to be abused, but officially tolerated under sharia, while others are subject to indiscriminate killing. Nice religion.

They take the Torah as the first revelation.
They read the New Testament as the second revelation, as being the story of a prophet, not a messiah.

They take the Torah as the first revelation.
They read the New Testament as the second revelation, as being the story of a prophet, not a messiah.
Ok, I was oversimplifying. I just listed the bible because it has both old and new testaments. Granted the old testament bible is different in some ways from the jewish.