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Russian Airliner sent "hijack" alert before disappearing from radar and crashing...

Colodia
25-08-2004, 04:46
Details soon, it's breaking news.


Pretty significant, think this is what Bush needs?
Opal Isle
25-08-2004, 04:47
I think it's what Kerry needs...
THE LOST PLANET
25-08-2004, 04:48
Pretty significant, think this is what Bush needs?What, is he running for president of Russia too?
ModAlert
25-08-2004, 04:49
Details soon, it's breaking news.


Pretty significant, think this is what Bush needs?

I'd wait for a source... and not necessarily. Could be connected to Chechan rebels.
Opal Isle
25-08-2004, 04:49
What, is he running for president of Russia too?
Nothing would surprise me.
Opal Isle
25-08-2004, 04:50
I'd wait for a source... and not necessarily. Could be connected to Chechan rebels.
It's terrorism no matter who it is connected too. If Bush does nothing about this, it would prove that he is racist.
Bloodless
25-08-2004, 04:58
It's terrorism no matter who it is connected too. If Bush does nothing about this, it would prove that he is racist.

First, what is he supposed to go do over in Russia?
Second, I know Russia has a varied ethnicity, but the "classic" Russian in American eyes is the tall blonde white giant in Rocky IV. Perhaps you would like to choose a different term than racist.
It would be nice if we didnt have to force every world event to orbit around American politics.

My condolences go out to those in Russia who lost loved ones tonight. May whomever was responsible find their place in hell as soon as they can be sent upon their way. :mad:
Communist Mississippi
25-08-2004, 04:58
The first three words out of my mouth when I heard this, "F--king Chechen terrorists."
Vasily Chuikov
25-08-2004, 04:58
It's terrorism no matter who it is connected too. If Bush does nothing about this, it would prove that he is racist.

Wait, explain your logic? How is Bush to blame?

Anyway, my God, again...I forgive the Russians anything they do now, anything.
Orders of Crusaders
25-08-2004, 05:00
Aw damn, I'm in the dark here...what the hell happened?
Valderixia
25-08-2004, 05:03
Well...I don't understand the racist thing too...

Anyway, I'd expect Bush to offer condolances to Russia, as the American's have had similar incidents, and speak from experience. Perhap's offer some intel or whatever...but not too much.


But truly, this is sad sad news. Makes me sick to my stomach that people would even think about doing this! I agree...I hope those terrorist's burn in hell for a long long time!
ModAlert
25-08-2004, 05:05
Aw damn, I'm in the dark here...what the hell happened?

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-08/25/content_368721.htm

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/24/russia.planecrash/index.html
Opal Isle
25-08-2004, 05:09
The War on Terrorism...

If he is only combating Middle East terrorists, I'd say that's pretty racist...
CSW
25-08-2004, 05:10
Countdown until CM blames this on the Chechnyans despite no proo...damn he is quick.
Orders of Crusaders
25-08-2004, 05:11
Oh, that is bad...2 planes....And done by a group of rebels? What did they hope to gain from doing this?
ModAlert
25-08-2004, 05:16
Oh, that is bad...2 planes....And done by a group of rebels? What did they hope to gain from doing this?

The President of Chechnya was murdered last year. The election for a new one is days away. IF it is in fact Chechen rebels.
Opal Isle
25-08-2004, 05:17
If the country is Chechnya (which it is), the adjective is probably Chechnyan (and it is...)
ModAlert
25-08-2004, 05:19
The War on Terrorism...

If he is only combating Middle East terrorists, I'd say that's pretty racist...

Hmm, perhaps he is waiting for Russia to tell the US whether they wish the help? Like Spain?
Opal Isle
25-08-2004, 05:22
Hmm, perhaps he is waiting for Russia to tell the US whether they wish the help? Like Spain?
I didn't say that the terrorism proves it. But if he doesn't do anything at all about it except maybe comment about it, it would prove he is racist.
ModAlert
25-08-2004, 05:23
If the country is Chechnya (which it is), the adjective is probably Chechnyan (and it is...)


Wrong. It's Chechen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnya
Communist Mississippi
25-08-2004, 05:24
Countdown until CM blames this on the Chechnyans despite no proo...damn he is quick.



Who else would it be?


If English soldiers in Northern Ireland get attacked, who do we assume it to be?

If Israeli settlers in the West Bank are attacker, who do we assume it to be?

If terror occurs in Colombia, who do we assume it to be?


We can assume because we know what terrorists operate in what regions and against what usual targets.

Chechens routinely attack Russians and Russian interests. So that would be the first lead I'd check.
Bloodless
25-08-2004, 05:26
Again, what would you have him do? Send troops into Chechnya? :rolleyes:

Offering condolences and support is what he should do. Anything else should only be at the request of the Russian Govt.
Opal Isle
25-08-2004, 05:26
Wrong. It's Chechen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnya
*stands corrected*
Opal Isle
25-08-2004, 05:26
Again, what would you have him do? Send troops into Chechnya? :rolleyes:

Offering condolences and support is what he should do. Anything else should only be at the request of the Russian Govt.
Why? Because Russia is a sovereign nation?
ModAlert
25-08-2004, 05:29
I didn't say that the terrorism proves it. But if he doesn't do anything at all about it except maybe comment about it, it would prove he is racist.

No. All it would prove is that he was willing to go to war with terrorists in Afghanistan after his country was attacked, but that he does not necessarily trample over another sovereign nation's wishes in formulating their own defense.

The US did not swarm into Spain. It did, however, send personnel to Madrid to aid in the aftermath. And the US has not swarmed into Saudi Arabia to help them in their problems -- and they are definitely Middle Eastern.

Your argument does not seem logical.
Steel Butterfly
25-08-2004, 05:30
As a Russian myself, I can assure you that the Russian government can take care of themselves. I just feel horrible for the poor people. Terrorism is the war of cowards...it attacks the innocents...
Steel Butterfly
25-08-2004, 05:31
Your argument does not seem logical.

Instead, his "argument" seemed very anti-american and infact racist against americans.
Communist Mississippi
25-08-2004, 05:32
Again, what would you have him do?



Call for American citizens and allied citizens to join the Russian Army and crusade for Russia against Chechnya!

Март товарищей отправляет ускоряет для России!
Vasily Chuikov
25-08-2004, 05:33
Instead, his "argument" seemed very anti-american and infact racist against americans.

Here Here for hypocrisy!
Steel Butterfly
25-08-2004, 05:35
Call for American citizens and allied citizens to join the Russian Army and crusade for Russia against Chechnya!

Март товарищей отправляет ускоряет для России!

Вы - странный человек
Whittier-
25-08-2004, 05:38
Countdown until CM blames this on the Chechnyans despite no proo...damn he is quick.
It was the muslims. The chechen rebels are among the 3 biggest supporters of Al Qaeda.
Bin Laden trained the Chechens. They have a very deep relationship going back as far as 1996.
Communist Mississippi
25-08-2004, 05:39
Вы - странный человек



Это - ваше мнение! Теперь, когда еврейский коммунизм наконец мертв в России, Вы еще раз имеете право на ваше мнение. Для России! Приветствие Путин!
Whittier-
25-08-2004, 05:41
What's with the russian speak people?
Opal Isle
25-08-2004, 05:42
What's with the russian speak people?
They're Russian.
Communist Mississippi
25-08-2004, 05:43
What's with the russian speak people?


Не каждый говорит по-английски! Есть полный мир там!
Steel Butterfly
25-08-2004, 05:45
Это - ваше мнение! Теперь, когда еврейский коммунизм наконец мертв в России, Вы еще раз имеете право на ваше мнение. Для России! Приветствие Путин!

Хорошо ... теперь Вы безумны...
Steel Butterfly
25-08-2004, 05:47
Не каждый говорит по-английски! Есть полный мир там!

"He?"

You heathen...you're using an online translator, aren't you?
Communist Mississippi
25-08-2004, 05:48
Хорошо ... теперь Вы безумны...


Кто безумен? Хорошо мы должны все быть безумны, Россия угнеталась в течение более чем семьдесяти лет в соответствии с еврейской доктриной коммунизма. Ложь, которая возникала из ядовитого мнения Карла Маркса. Более чем двадцать миллионов человек, которые были убиты под еврейским управляемым государством состоянием.
Communist Mississippi
25-08-2004, 05:49
"He?"

You heathen...you're using an online translator, aren't you?


yes, I don't know much russian, so I use a translator sometimes. :D


If you wanted to speak in Spanish now, perhaps we can do that.

English and Spanish are the two languages I know best. Followed by Latin.
Steel Butterfly
25-08-2004, 05:50
yes, I don't know much russian, so I use a translator sometimes. :D


If you wanted to speak in Spanish now, perhaps we can do that.

Then I'd have to be the one searching for the translator.
Communist Mississippi
25-08-2004, 05:51
Then I'd have to be the one searching for the translator.



Yo no tengo una problema con eso.
Steel Butterfly
25-08-2004, 05:52
Кто безумен? Хорошо мы должны все быть безумны, Россия угнеталась в течение более чем семьдесяти лет в соответствии с еврейской доктриной коммунизма. Ложь, которая возникала из ядовитого мнения Карла Маркса. Более чем двадцать миллионов человек, которые были убиты под еврейским управляемым государством состоянием.

Я ненавижу коммунизм также. Именно поэтому я больше не живу в России. Однако, я сомневаюсь, что это является еврейским.
Orders of Crusaders
25-08-2004, 05:52
Er...I have no problem....with you? no...damn my lack of coffee in Spainish I!
Steel Butterfly
25-08-2004, 05:53
Yo no tengo una problema con eso.

Bah...I can go Russian, English, Latin, and I'm trying to learn Italian because I sing...but I can't speak spanish any better than the Taco Bell value menu.
Communist Mississippi
25-08-2004, 05:54
Я ненавижу коммунизм также. Именно поэтому я больше не живу в России. Однако, я сомневаюсь, что это является еврейским.


Еврей, Карл Маркс, еврей Леон Тротскаый, еврей Леон Блам прежний премьер-министр Франции, евреи начали коммунистические партии в каждой европейской нации, США, Южной Африке, Австралии, южноамериканских нациях, все из них.
VeryPositive
25-08-2004, 05:54
To hack, who da hell cares were they muslims or christians, chechens or al-quaeda?
People have died, but you sit here arguing?
And after this you can say war against terrorism is not what we need?
How can i know tommorow something like this doesnt happen in my country?
Damn those fanatic idiots...
Communist Mississippi
25-08-2004, 05:55
Er...I have no problem....with you? no...damn my lack of coffee in Spainish I!


"I do not have a problem with that" referring to making you hunt for a translator. :D
ModAlert
25-08-2004, 05:56
March Comrades Is sent It accelerates For Russia!

You -- the strange person


This is - your opinion! Now, when Jewish communism is finally dead in Russia, you again have right to your opinion. For Russia! Greeting Putin!

Each speaks in English! There is a complete peace there!

Good... now you are reckless...

Who is reckless? Good we must everything be reckless, Russia was suppressed during more than to sem'desyati years in accordance with the Jewish doctrine of communism. The lie, which appeared from the poisonous opinion of Karl Marx. Is more than twenty million people, who were killed under the Jewish controlled by state state.

Yes, I used a translator. Anyone who does not understand what's being said can at least get the gist of it if they cut and paste into one.
Orders of Crusaders
25-08-2004, 05:58
Yeah....I knew what they were saying, I just wanted to see if you did....yeah, thats it;)
ModAlert
25-08-2004, 05:59
The translations are bad, as I freely admit -- but you can get the gist.
VeryPositive
25-08-2004, 06:01
excuse me, what exactly are we talking here about?

А давайте я тоже буду говорить по-русски, тогда на меня обратят внимание ;) благо родной язык :)