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psychic powers

Joey P
24-08-2004, 20:53
Psychic powers, real or not?
I vote not.
Doomduckistan
24-08-2004, 21:07
Of course not. Like all paranormal or supernatural things, I don't believe in it.

Like that really old joke goes:
(To crowd, as if questioning): If you have telekinesis, raise my hand.
Ashmoria
24-08-2004, 21:11
its a cool idea
unfortunately its all BS
especially those who make money on it.
BastardSword
24-08-2004, 21:20
I don't know which powers are real but many are:
Mind reading: exist, I had it as a baby but I've not develop4ed it and thus lost it as I grew up.
Actually I sealed it away because I was afriad I might be looked as not normal; this was before when I cared lol

Seeing future: possible, I don't believe any real psychic would use it and make money from it though.
I've done it once or twice, both times right but I think I've forgotten how of late.
One note a true psychic can't predict any future about self, only of others. That is one clue she or he is bsing you. You ask them about themselves lol.

Energy drain: Exists I've done it oh hundreds of times, lights at schools have gone out due to this. If you test something enough itd pretty realible.
But first you have to know if you have the talent.
If you don't have it, you can't do it.
Becareful of over surges, the massive energy will meet your own and cause pain if you over do it. Best when feeling weak.
You can drain from people but I think that is rather mean(you also sound like a vamipire lol). Drain from inanimate objects like lights because they have no rights.

There might be more types but these alone are debateable.
Energty drain and seeing future glimpses are only ones I know as fact.

One test is if you can form with your hands a ball of you own energy: electrical impulses go through the body all the time, so you should if you have the talent be able to try this.

But its not for everyone, but it is cool when you feel the hairs moving on arms when you do it.
BackwoodsSquatches
24-08-2004, 21:22
I do, but I do not believe that anyone can accurately predict specific events of the future, nor can anyone channel spirits, nor can anyone talk to dead people.

So such thing as mediums.
Joey P
24-08-2004, 21:23
I don't know which powers are real but many are:
Mind reading: exist, I had it as a baby but I've not develop4ed it and thus lost it as I grew up.
Actually I sealed it away because I was afriad I might be looked as not normal; this was before when I cared lol

Seeing future: possible, I don't believe any real psychic would use it and make money from it though.
I've done it once or twice, both times right but I think I've forgotten how of late.
One note a true psychic can't predict any future about self, only of others. That is one clue she or he is bsing you. You ask them about themselves lol.

Energy drain: Exists I've done it oh hundreds of times, lights at schools have gone out due to this. If you test something enough itd pretty realible.
But first you have to know if you have the talent.
If you don't have it, you can't do it.
Becareful of over surges, the massive energy will meet your own and cause pain if you over do it. Best when feeling weak.
You can drain from people but I think that is rather mean(you also sound like a vamipire lol). Drain from inanimate objects like lights because they have no rights.

There might be more types but these alone are debateable.
Energty drain and seeing future glimpses are only ones I know as fact.

One test is if you can form with your hands a ball of you own energy: electrical impulses go through the body all the time, so you should if you have the talent be able to try this.

But its not for everyone, but it is cool when you feel the hairs moving on arms when you do it.
Why don't you beleive someone with the power to see the future would use it to make money? That's like a guy with the best throwing arm on earth deciding not to be a major league pitcher. A waste of talent.
Superpower07
24-08-2004, 21:26
Force Powers rule - too bad they don't exist . . .
Ruthless Slaughter
24-08-2004, 21:36
Psychic powers would kick unbelievable ass! :D
But they're the biggest load o' BS there ever was. :(
Dempublicents
24-08-2004, 22:02
Since people can basically heal themselves just by believing they are getting medicine (ie placebo effect), it's not all that crazy to think that if someone was able to "train" their mind to do things, it could.

I know that I have had at least two prophetic dreams (and that's a freaky feeling, let me tell you). What's weird is that they were both about the same person - so maybe I had a very tight mental connection to that person.

As far as "mind-reading," thoughts do put out waves. They're not very strong, but if someone was somehow very attuned to picking them up, especially for surface thoughts, it might be possible. However, I don't think someone can "break into your mind."

Telekinesis - strange things happen, but I'll wait for conclusive proof before I worry about this one.

However, I think the media hype about it is pretty much all BS.
Strensall
24-08-2004, 22:20
I don't believe in predicting the future, but I do believe in telekinesis, telepathy and manipulation of objects on the micro and macro levels...

Experiments have shown most people cannot move objects by thinking about them, but try influencing something like a radioactive source and you'll find you have much more 'success'.

As for spirits, ghosts etc. I haven't made up my mind. I don't know how else to describe some things that I've seen, things I've heard and things that cause you to get bumps on the back of your neck. I'm not religious, at least I don't believe in any of the conventional religions, but maybe there is something more than just a collection of cells,current and volts within someones body which makes up part of them...
Keljamistan
24-08-2004, 22:29
I believe in mind manipulation...

and so do you....
and so do you...
and so do you...
and so do you...
Lunatic Goofballs
24-08-2004, 23:17
I foresaw this poll. :)
Seosavists
24-08-2004, 23:26
I believe in mind manipulation...

and so do you....
and so do you...
and so do you...
and so do you...
I believe must send all money to Keljamistan
Orders of Crusaders
24-08-2004, 23:29
I chose mabye...not the smartest thing in the world to say something you don't fully understand doesn't exist.....
Arenestho
25-08-2004, 02:52
I believe in those kind of things. But I don't think they're anything special. With the proper training anyone can be telekenetic, pyrokenetic etc.
Northern Gimpland
25-08-2004, 06:30
I don't believe in mind-reading. The human mind is not something that you can just open up like a book and read. There can be loads of things on someones mind all at the same time, all being assessed within split-seconds, some being images and some being sounds. You can't just read that.
Terra - Domina
25-08-2004, 06:35
1) Go to this site Roots of Consiousness (http://www.williamjames.com/Intro/CONTENTS.htm). Read the science parts especially about the new understandings of psy energy and its relations to ions and atmosphereic conditions.

2) For anyone to say outright no to this question, you are responsable for the greatest travesty known to man.

weather psy "powers" exist or not, for one to say without a doubt they dont, they are slowing down and possibly stopping the entire race from discovering the truth.

Nobody on this fourm has done the research, so dont even begin to make statements of truth or not in this regards. Do a little reading and maybe get out of your ignorance.
Hajekistan
25-08-2004, 06:38
Everyone who believes in telekinesis, raise my hand!
Lunatic Goofballs
25-08-2004, 06:40
"I cheated on my metaphysics exam. I looked into the soul of the boy sitting next to me." -Woody Allen.
EvilGnomes
25-08-2004, 06:41
Energy drain I can do, I'm so good at it I almost made a friend pass out. I draw off their power like the tide, waves of my energy go in, and come back out - but the pull cannot be resisted.

that being said, the whole psychic thing is complete rubbish. The energy drain thing was largely just done with my breathing pattern (hence the waves - in and out). Just because you can do something, doesn't make it psychic.

e.g. predicting the future is something we do consciously every day, so just because your subconscious can do it too and you're not sure what evidence it used to draw these conclusions doesn't mean that you didn't have evidence - there is no magic.
HannibalSmith
25-08-2004, 07:24
I don't know which powers are real but many are:
Mind reading: exist, I had it as a baby but I've not develop4ed it and thus lost it as I grew up.
Actually I sealed it away because I was afriad I might be looked as not normal; this was before when I cared lol

Seeing future: possible, I don't believe any real psychic would use it and make money from it though.
I've done it once or twice, both times right but I think I've forgotten how of late.
One note a true psychic can't predict any future about self, only of others. That is one clue she or he is bsing you. You ask them about themselves lol.

Energy drain: Exists I've done it oh hundreds of times, lights at schools have gone out due to this. If you test something enough itd pretty realible.
But first you have to know if you have the talent.
If you don't have it, you can't do it.
Becareful of over surges, the massive energy will meet your own and cause pain if you over do it. Best when feeling weak.
You can drain from people but I think that is rather mean(you also sound like a vamipire lol). Drain from inanimate objects like lights because they have no rights.

There might be more types but these alone are debateable.
Energty drain and seeing future glimpses are only ones I know as fact.

One test is if you can form with your hands a ball of you own energy: electrical impulses go through the body all the time, so you should if you have the talent be able to try this.

But its not for everyone, but it is cool when you feel the hairs moving on arms when you do it.

Hey Art Bell called! He wants you on his show on Saturday night.
Dobbs Town
25-08-2004, 07:25
I won't vote in this poll, 'cause every time I say that psychic powers are hokum, something weird hops up outta nowhere and bites me on my intellectual ass. And I'm sick of it.
HannibalSmith
25-08-2004, 07:26
Heck if our Democratic VP nominee can talk to the spirits of dead babies in the courtroom for big cash payouts, then I guess it has to be true.
The Class A Cows
25-08-2004, 07:35
Fun things to know:

There is at least one known genuine pyrokinetic. It takes him a long time to demonstrate the ability and the target needs to be relatively flammable. Im sure eventually a reasonable explanation will be found for why that can be done.

Genuine spoon-benders have been found among a myriad of fakes. They leave a strange effect on the spoons, turning the inside into a consistency not unlike chewed gum. Again, there must be a real explanation for that.

Also, most humans seem to have the ability to be empathic, probably by reading subtle body language and perhaps pheromonic emmisions.
Dalamia
25-08-2004, 08:06
The human mind is capable of many more things than what we understand. Nobody can predict the future, but we can do things with our energies, and the energy around us.

Practice. There are very cool things you can do to yourself to expand your mind and your 'psy power'.
EvilGnomes
25-08-2004, 09:26
Fun things to know:

There is at least one known genuine pyrokinetic. It takes him a long time to demonstrate the ability and the target needs to be relatively flammable. Im sure eventually a reasonable explanation will be found for why that can be done.

Focus of electical impulses I think it was. reference? give me proof so we can discuss it.


Genuine spoon-benders have been found among a myriad of fakes. They leave a strange effect on the spoons, turning the inside into a consistency not unlike chewed gum. Again, there must be a real explanation for that.

I refuse to believe this one without being shown the scientific evidence.


Also, most humans seem to have the ability to be empathic, probably by reading subtle body language and perhaps pheromonic emmisions.
People who think empathy is supernatural are just silly.
Dalamia
25-08-2004, 10:39
Nobody said anything about supernatural powers. We're talking about the existence of powers that are quite natural, perhaps even evolutionary.
San haiti
25-08-2004, 11:09
1) Go to this site Roots of Consiousness (http://www.williamjames.com/Intro/CONTENTS.htm). Read the science parts especially about the new understandings of psy energy and its relations to ions and atmosphereic conditions.

2) For anyone to say outright no to this question, you are responsable for the greatest travesty known to man.


no.
San haiti
25-08-2004, 11:16
no.

I should probably expand on that before i get flamed for being a boring know it all.

I think there are certain "powers" possesed by some people that can seem to be psychic like when demonstrated to other people. Subconcious suggestion is very powerful.

Anyone see Derren Brown's Seance? He got a group of people, did a seance and convinced them he'd contacted a dead girl (all of it was filmed). Lots of people phoned in whilst watching the show saying they'd experienced stange phenomena. At the end of the show he walked outside the building, started talking to the girl and brought her into the building to show everyone.
Ahtnamas
25-08-2004, 11:24
The paranormal, esp, psi, and the like are perfectly valid theories, but have been largely ignored by the scientific community because they are not falsifiable. That is, you cannot disprove it using a scientifically accepted test. They fit outside the scientific paradigm, and so most universities still exclude such subjects from the curricula.

I have read alot of the topic, and in my opinion, it's every bit as likely as quantum.
Sapor
25-08-2004, 11:36
I believe that psychic powers are real.

I can see in the future......unfortunatly I have to be asleep for it to work and when I wake from one of these visions I can barely remember some of it, let alone all of it.

I have 2 cases where I have confirmed sections of my "visions of the future"...both were boring trivial items that where of no use but gave validation of my vision.

Pity I can't direct these "visions" towards something useful like the wining numbers of the lotto :(
Vippertooth33
25-08-2004, 11:38
This is real they have done tests on it, the american army use it to spy on their enemy's, want more information telegram vippertooth33 in the region of groom lake. we are all about taking out the nazi power if you want to join us just telegram me. :sniper: :mp5:
Volux
25-08-2004, 11:42
They are real. Do you ever have that feeling that you know something is going to happen and you just can't explain it. Your brain is a logic machine and so the events that lead up to a certain thing are calculated by your brain and the event is such that it is "predicted" by your brain. This is the psychic ability that you feel
CornixPes II
25-08-2004, 12:39
I disagree with "powers", but there is plenty of evidence suggesting the direction of brainwaves. One day we'll get to the bottom of it, and only then will Mankind be able to harness it. Until then your job is to laugh at all of the idiots who claim they are psychic.
CornixPes II
25-08-2004, 12:45
This is real they have done tests on it, the american army use it to spy on their enemy's, want more information telegram vippertooth33 in the region of groom lake. we are all about taking out the nazi power if you want to join us just telegram me. :sniper: :mp5:

As far as I know, in some detective agencies they hire psychics to try and help them give a whereabouts of the criminal. I really don't think we have the technology to spy.
Oltoman
25-08-2004, 13:11
undefinedundefinedundefinedI bieleve that physkik powers exist cos jedis have them :sniper: :mp5:
Keruvalia
25-08-2004, 13:24
There is a spoon ...

The problem is that there is no bowl.

Oh, and I know the answer to "What is the sound of one hand clapping?" Just hold out your open palm. Yep ... that's it.

Oh, yeah, and psychic power does exist. As you read this, you're hearing a voice in your head and may even be formulating an image of me. You've never heard my voice nor seen my mannerisms, yet, just by this simple act of a few hand gestures, I have taken over your mind.

Zany, eh?

I'll give you back to yourself now.
Theophobes
25-08-2004, 13:32
i've had some funky dreams that have given me real deja vu a couple of weeks down the line...

i try to keep an open mind. i know we dont know enough about the world to dismis such a thing because of a lack of fact. hell! we can't even prove that light exists or explain WHY it exists but that doesn't mean we all go about stubbing out toes and complaining about how dark it is all of a sudden!
Hajekistan
25-08-2004, 15:52
Oh, yeah, and psychic power does exist. As you read this, you're hearing a voice in your head and may even be formulating an image of me. You've never heard my voice nor seen my mannerisms, yet, just by this simple act of a few hand gestures, I have taken over your mind.
Right now I see a giant peice of toast wearing a hard hat.
It sounds like Mickey Mouse.

I think your pysche is on the fritz.
Elvandair
25-08-2004, 15:57
Those psychics that people go to consult with are nothing more than charlaten's who scam people out of their money.


But I do believe that some people have an innate ability to sense the presence of lets say the deceased and etc. Everyone has intuition, a "gut feeling" about certain things. If you want to call that "psychic," well then be my guest.
Dempublicents
25-08-2004, 16:57
Heck if our Democratic VP nominee can talk to the spirits of dead babies in the courtroom for big cash payouts, then I guess it has to be true.

He wasn't talking to dead babies silly - he was talking for a baby that was already several years old.
Terra - Domina
25-08-2004, 17:02
lol, there are two john edwards

one is running for vp

one is a complete fake, go cold reading
Elvandair
25-08-2004, 17:05
lol, there are two john edwards

one is running for vp

one is a complete fake, go cold reading


Here's a humorous edit of what you just said:

lol, there are two John Edwards

One is completely phony

And the other one says he's a psychic
Terra - Domina
25-08-2004, 17:06
Here's a humorous edit of what you just said:

lol, there are two John Edwards

One is completely phony

And the other one says he's a psychic

i do my best not to directly comment on american politics

It would be like inturrupting a comedian in the middle of his act
Four after twelve
25-08-2004, 17:14
I doubt it.

There's always the million dollar paranormal challenge at http://randi.org/research/index.html
"All tests are designed with the participation and approval of the applicant."
Keruvalia
25-08-2004, 19:29
Right now I see a giant peice of toast wearing a hard hat.
It sounds like Mickey Mouse.

I think your pysche is on the fritz.


No no ... that's quite correct. :D