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A conundrum if you will

Burbus
24-08-2004, 03:57
This was posted months ago here I think.

Of the four most influential thinkers in the past 200 years three were Jewish and one was wrong.
Tuesday Heights
24-08-2004, 04:27
I don't get it. :confused:
Tenete Traditiones
24-08-2004, 04:43
Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish supremist!

Your Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish "influential thinkers" caused bloody wars, deceit and communism in the past 200 years. Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish parasites have done enough damage.
CSW
24-08-2004, 04:44
Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish supremist!

Your Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish "influential thinkers" caused bloody wars, deceit and communism in the past 200 years. Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish parasites have done enough damage.
Hiya TT. Back again?
Tenete Traditiones
24-08-2004, 04:46
Hiya TT. Back again?
What is it you want, Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)?
Burbus
24-08-2004, 04:46
Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish supremist!

Your Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish "influential thinkers" caused bloody wars, deceit and communism in the past 200 years. Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish parasites have done enough damage.

Perhaps. I am not asking for any judgment of these thinkers, merely observing that they have been profoundly influential. Some may argue they have brought evil and suffering to the world and others will interpret their work as positive and benefitial.
Tenete Traditiones
24-08-2004, 04:49
Some may argue they have brought evil and suffering to the world and others will interpret their work as positive and benefitial.
Goys the former while Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)s the latter.
CSW
24-08-2004, 04:50
What is it you want, Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)?
I'm not a Jew TT, I'm an RC.
Burbus
24-08-2004, 04:52
I don't get it. :confused:
It's a riddle.
Tenete Traditiones
24-08-2004, 04:53
I'm not a Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/) TT, I'm an RC.
Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish slave all the same.
Burbus
24-08-2004, 04:53
Goys the former while Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)s the latter.

But one can easily argue that the non-Jew of the foursome has also contributed to tremendous violence and destruction.
Tenete Traditiones
24-08-2004, 04:56
But one can easily argue that the non-Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/) of the foursome has also contributed to tremendous violence and destruction.
The Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/) is the root of Western problems as it has been for millenia. Far worse than any goy, even Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish slaves.
Valderixia
24-08-2004, 04:56
Who were these "thinkers"? I am clueless...I imagine that Einstein was one of them...but that's the obvious one. Please fill in the other three names...or if I just made myself like the fourth thinker who was wrong, then please state all four "thinkers"!
Tuesday Heights
24-08-2004, 04:57
Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish supremist!

I'm not Jewish.
:confused:
Tenete Traditiones
24-08-2004, 04:59
I'm not Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish.
:confused:
But you support Zion and the Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)s, no?
Arenestho
24-08-2004, 04:59
So what? It proves only that some of the most influential people in the past century have been Jews. BTW who was the fourth and wrong one? Also who were the other three, their greatness is subjective.
Sdaeriji
24-08-2004, 04:59
Why are you highlighting Jew?
Zaikuu
24-08-2004, 05:00
The Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/) is the root of Western problems as it has been for millenia. Far worse than any goy, even Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish slaves.

Uhm... I think the only "Western" problem a millenia ago was survival. There was no major religion.
Tuesday Heights
24-08-2004, 05:01
Why are you highlighting Jew?

It's a link to an anti-semetic web site; it's been reported.
Sdaeriji
24-08-2004, 05:03
It's a link to an anti-semetic web site; it's been reported.

Ah, I see. I didn't think that it might be a link, I just thought he was trying to make some demented point.

See, I'd highlight JEW like this.
THE LOST PLANET
24-08-2004, 05:10
Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish supremist!

Your Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish "influential thinkers" caused bloody wars, deceit and communism in the past 200 years. Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish parasites have done enough damage.Well look who crawled out from under a rock, where's the rest of the Hitler Youth?
Incertonia
24-08-2004, 05:20
Well look who crawled out from under a rock, where's the rest of the Hitler Youth?
Probably out masturbating each other to flickering copies of "Triumph of the Will" bragging about their four-inch penises.
EvilGnomes
24-08-2004, 05:36
But you support Zion and the Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)s, no?

Not meaning any offence, but are you a nazi? Your hate is very strong.


back on topic though, Who are these four thinkers? and if It's a riddle and I just made an arse of myself, what's the answer to the riddle? :confused:
Gallywinter
24-08-2004, 06:17
Yeah, from the gist of things, someone escaped from the trailer park.

Its not a riddle so much as a history lesson. Only two I can think of is Sigmund Freud, and for the wrong one, Adolf Hitler? :confused:
Sdaeriji
24-08-2004, 06:23
Well I imagine Freud and Einstein would be two of them.
Upanga
24-08-2004, 06:43
This has nothing to do with the topic or religion but i like the quote;

"So, you thought you could sneak in with these scissors, but you forgot one thing... rock crushes scissors! But... scissors cut paper... and paper covers rock... Kif, we have a conundrum."
~Zap Brannigan~
Lunatic Goofballs
24-08-2004, 06:50
This has nothing to do with the topic or religion but i like the quote;

"So, you thought you could sneak in with these scissors, but you forgot one thing... rock crushes scissors! But... scissors cut paper... and paper covers rock... Kif, we have a conundrum."
~Zap Brannigan~

and wasn't Einstein wrong too?

What pissed Einstein off in his latter years was that he knew he left something out, but couldn't figure out what. That missing piece left a hole in his theories that led to the possibility that he was wrong. Being the kind of person he is, he concluded that he screwed up somewhere and set about the task of figuring that sumbitch out. Then he died.

The snafu revolves around this little problem: He could show mathematically why an object could not surpass the velocity of light, but he could not disprove the possibility of objects going faster than light...as long as they never went slower than lightspeed.
Upanga
24-08-2004, 06:54
you are correct.

and on behalf of asfan14 who can't get his computer to work;
peace is a world without war, yet we need to have war to get to peace.
Frisbeeteria
24-08-2004, 07:03
Only two I can think of is Sigmund Freud, and for the wrong one, Adolf Hitler? :confused:
Freud has been largely discredited. I'm not sure I would even consider him for this list in any case, even prior to his theories being debunked.

The Assault on Freud (http://human-nature.com/freud/holmes.html)
EvilGnomes
24-08-2004, 07:05
Well I imagine Freud and Einstein would be two of them.

Freud?!? I've seen his work, he's a dumbass. Everything anyone does, can be interpreted as a... what's it called?.... Edopus complex?

Anyway, Freud was just some nut who wanted to have sex with everyone he met, including his parents. He was also the first psychiatrist to get up and claim to have cured people, and for some reason they all beleived him.
CSW
24-08-2004, 07:17
Freud has been largely discredited. I'm not sure I would even consider him for this list in any case, even prior to his theories being debunked.

The Assault on Freud (http://human-nature.com/freud/holmes.html)
Marx?
CSW
24-08-2004, 07:18
Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish slave all the same.
I'm sure of it. Go back to wanking over the Trumph of the Will, will you?
The Land of the Enemy
24-08-2004, 07:21
Who were these "thinkers"? I am clueless...I imagine that Einstein was one of them...but that's the obvious one. Please fill in the other three names...or if I just made myself like the fourth thinker who was wrong, then please state all four "thinkers"!

I think I know the three Jews...
They would have to be Albert Einstein, Sigmund Freud and Karl Marx.
The other who is wrong could be just about anyone. If someone can fill in that last name that'd be great.

From what I've seen, Hitler seems to be the top candidate for the wrong one.
But there has to be some one else because this is of the last 200 years, so it goes back to about 1800; there were a lot of thinkers then, many who have been wrong, butwhich is the one?
Lunatic Goofballs
24-08-2004, 07:22
I think I know the three Jews...
They would have to be Albert Einstein, Sigmund Freud and Karl Marx.
The other who is wrong could be just about anyone. If someone can fill in that last name that'd be great.

Wolf Blitzer?
The Land of the Enemy
24-08-2004, 07:25
Wolf Blitzer?

Hmmm...
That's a possibility.
Bleezdale
24-08-2004, 07:26
Arg!!! the suspence is killing me

who are the 4 people
EvilGnomes
24-08-2004, 07:27
I think I know the three Jews...
They would have to be Albert Einstein, Sigmund Freud and Karl Marx.
The other who is wrong could be just about anyone. If someone can fill in that last name that'd be great.

Was einstein Jewish? but he was also wrong so he can't be the answer!

Wait, I just solved the riddle!

there is no answer. Think about it, it doesn't have to be true to claim it - I could easily say "Of the four most influential thinkers in the past 200 years three were French and one was wrong". A whole bunch of people would then strain themselves coming up with french geniuses without stopping to think whether or not they would actually be in the top 4 of the world.

It's genius... and I'm gunna kill him... :sniper:
Lunatic Goofballs
24-08-2004, 07:30
Hmmm...
That's a possibility.

My first instinct was Stephen Speilberg. But he's a jew.

Then I thought of George W. Bush. But while he's no jew, and very very wrong, he's no great thinker. :)

I thought about Martin Luther King Jr, but he was right. ANyhoo, he only expressed opinion, so had nothing to be wrong about. He was a 'what if' guy.

Stephen Hawking? Nobody even know what the hell he's talking about, so how do we know if he's right or wrong?

Then I thought of Wolf Blitzer. The worst professional name in the history of the news. What was his original name? Biff Webster?
The Land of the Enemy
24-08-2004, 07:46
Was einstein Jewish? but he was also wrong so he can't be the answer!

Yes Einstein was Jewish, thats why he came to the US, to escape Hitler's Holocaust.

As for Einstein being wrong... His theories have yet to be actually proven wrong, so he can't be called wrong without proof (or the closest thing thereof).
EvilGnomes
24-08-2004, 07:52
Yes Einstein was Jewish, thats why he came to the US, to escape Hitler's Holocaust.

As for Einstein being wrong... His theories have yet to be actually proven wrong, so he can't be called wrong without proof (or the closest thing thereof).

How do you define wrong? He came up with relativity, realised it din't make any sense and changed it, then realised he was right the first time and changed it back. Not to mention that we now know there are particles that travel faster than light (and even though he knew his theories allowed this, I still think he said it was im possible - cause the broadcast I saw this on opened with "sorry einstein")
The Land of the Enemy
24-08-2004, 08:05
How do you define wrong? He came up with relativity, realised it din't make any sense and changed it, then realised he was right the first time and changed it back. Not to mention that we now know there are particles that travel faster than light (and even though he knew his theories allowed this, I still think he said it was im possible - cause the broadcast I saw this on opened with "sorry einstein")


Self-correction really can't make you wrong per se. It's like tossing a baseball up and swinging and missing three times in a row. You go for the gold and miss; but you can still say you struck yourself out. Both an accomplishment and a failure ant the same time, so I suppose he could be right, from one point of view, and wrong from another.
EvilGnomes
24-08-2004, 08:20
Self-correction really can't make you wrong per se. It's like tossing a baseball up and swinging and missing three times in a row. You go for the gold and miss; but you can still say you struck yourself out. Both an accomplishment and a failure ant the same time, so I suppose he could be right, from one point of view, and wrong from another.

The answer to a riddle should be obvious once it is found, not ambiguous. I say this is just a ploy to make us realise how many smart jews there have been out there.

I would like to think that kind of thing is unneccessary these days, but the nutter from earlier shows that I am wrong.
Our Earth
24-08-2004, 08:44
Well look who crawled out from under a rock, where's the rest of the Hitler Youth?

Well... most are dead...

Boy, this thread is a hoot.
Our Earth
24-08-2004, 08:46
Yes Einstein was Jewish, thats why he came to the US, to escape Hitler's Holocaust.

As for Einstein being wrong... His theories have yet to be actually proven wrong, so he can't be called wrong without proof (or the closest thing thereof).

A number of Einstein's theories have been "proven" to any reasonable standard, and none have been disproven, per se, though there are a few that are in question with our recent advancements in quantum mechanics.
Burbus
24-08-2004, 13:07
How do you define wrong? He came up with relativity, realised it din't make any sense and changed it, then realised he was right the first time and changed it back.
Maybe he had doubts when he was working on it. But after special relativity was published (1905) Einstein never abandoned his claims.

Not to mention that we now know there are particles that travel faster than light (and even though he knew his theories allowed this, I still think he said it was im possible - cause the broadcast I saw this on opened with "sorry einstein")
The experiments which have purportedly observed faster than light behavior are highly disupted right now and even some of the physicists working on those experiments concede that the law of relativity has not been violated.

Einstein's legacy was not just scientific... it had great influence on philosophy and social sciences too. And his scientific work wasn't just relativity... his achievements were immense; he proved e=mc^2, he established Brownian Motion, he discovered the photoelectric effect (which won him the Nobel Prize).
Burbus
24-08-2004, 13:10
The answer to a riddle should be obvious once it is found, not ambiguous. I say this is just a ploy to make us realise how many smart jews there have been out there.


I'm just reposting a riddle that I saw months ago. The guy who made it was definitely Jewish.. But he had a very good point. THere is no doubt that these four philosophers have had an unparalleled impact on civilization.

We have Marx, Freud, and Einstein, any guesses to who the fourth is? And who do you think was wrong?
The God King Eru-sama
24-08-2004, 13:20
Not to mention that we now know there are particles that travel faster than light (and even though he knew his theories allowed this, I still think he said it was im possible - cause the broadcast I saw this on opened with "sorry einstein")

The equations are still valid. It is prudent to note that these particles do not carry any information. As well, the fact that something that is moving sub-light speed cannot accelerate to the speed of light remains true.
Superpower07
24-08-2004, 13:29
The Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/) is the root of Western problems as it has been for millenia. Far worse than any goy, even Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)ish slaves.

Listen to yourself. You bring more meaning to Marx's "Religion is the opiate of the masses" than anybody I have met, even this one NeoNazi I know.


And here are some Leonardo DaVinci quotes that describe your kind perfectly:

"Many have made a trade of delusions and false miracles, deceiving the stupid multitude."
IE - the 'stupid multitude' refers to you, and you now spread delusion

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Yes you wretched mortal, open your eyes!!!


Hmmm . . . the athiests must be wanting to get at this guy - go right ahead!
Reptiliador
24-08-2004, 13:30
What is it you want, Jew (http://www.jewwatch.com/)?

How about you eat shit and die, asshole? That's what I want.
Cogitation
24-08-2004, 14:21
How about you eat shit and die, asshole? That's what I want.
Tenete Traditiones has been officially warned for trolling and has been forumbanned for two weeks.

Reptiliador: You are officially warned for flaming.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Incertonia
24-08-2004, 14:26
Two weeks without the Nazi? But Cog--whatever shall we do for fun if we can't taunt the Nazi? :D
Superpower07
24-08-2004, 15:32
Tenete Traditiones has been officially warned for trolling and has been forumbanned for two weeks.

Reptiliador: You are officially warned for flaming.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

Oh thank you!!! You are my hero
Lower Aquatica
24-08-2004, 15:39
Tenete Traditiones has been officially warned for trolling and has been forumbanned for two weeks.

Usually I sing "I Am Henry VIII I Am" to trolls to confuse them; I was just getting ready to start.

Ah well. :)
Kroblexskij
24-08-2004, 15:47
hitler was a 1/4 jew

was it him
Almighty Kerenor
24-08-2004, 16:14
Well.
I say Marx was wrong.
Dunno who the fourth is.

But... dammit! You banned TT? :eek:

Unbelieveable, he was funny as hell.
Elvandair
24-08-2004, 18:06
Oy vey....
Reptiliador
24-08-2004, 22:17
Tenete Traditiones has been officially warned for trolling and has been forumbanned for two weeks.

Reptiliador: You are officially warned for flaming.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

1. Who are you?
2. Do you have an official capacity?
3. What, exactly, is your definition of flaming?
4. Who gave you the right to decide, unilatterally, if I'm flaming or not?
5. How does your "official warning" work?
6. What are the consequences if I ignore your warning?
7. Where is any of this codified?
8. Why, when I tried to Telegram you at The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation, and again at simply Cogitation, was I told, in essence, that you didn't exist?

I'm new to your little game and I don't have much experience here. If you have the power that you imply, kindly Telegram me with your bona fides.
THE LOST PLANET
24-08-2004, 22:32
1. Who are you?
2. Do you have an official capacity?
3. What, exactly, is your definition of flaming?
4. Who gave you the right to decide, unilatterally, if I'm flaming or not?
5. How does your "official warning" work?
6. What are the consequences if I ignore your warning?
7. Where is any of this codified?
8. Why, when I tried to Telegram you at The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation, and again at simply Cogitation, was I told, in essence, that you didn't exist?

I'm new to your little game and I don't have much experience here. If you have the power that you imply, kindly Telegram me with your bona fides.Carefull n00b, anybody with that game or forum moderator title below their name not only has the power to ban you temporarily as he did with TT, they can also delete you for seriuos transgressions.
Frisbeeteria
24-08-2004, 22:33
I'm new to your little game and I don't have much experience here. If you have the power that you imply, kindly Telegram me with your bona fides.
His bona fides reside right under his name:
Cogitation
NationStates Game Mod
As for the rest of your answers, you should read the sticky topics both here and in the Moderation Forum. Ignorance of the rules does not excuse you from following them.
Reptiliador
24-08-2004, 23:02
His bona fides reside right under his name:
Cogitation
NationStates Game Mod
As for the rest of your answers, you should read the sticky topics both here and in the Moderation Forum. Ignorance of the rules does not excuse you from following them.

I don't recall pleading ignorance of the rules as an excuse for not following them. On the contrary, I was simply trying to clarify exactly what those rules are, who can impose penalties for breaking them, what the penalties are, and how those decisions are arrived at. Further, if you could tell me how this little game differs from a glorified message board, I'd appreciate your input.
Tuesday Heights
24-08-2004, 23:04
I don't recall pleading ignorance of the rules as an excuse for not following them. On the contrary, I was simply trying to clarify exactly what those rules are, who can impose penalties for breaking them, what the penalties are, and how those decisions are arrived at. Further, if you could tell me how this little game differs from a glorified message board, I'd appreciate your input.

Post a thread in Moderation about it.
Reptiliador
24-08-2004, 23:14
Carefull n00b, anybody with that game or forum moderator title below their name not only has the power to ban you temporarily as he did with TT, they can also delete you for seriuos transgressions.

Thanks. I'll take that into consideration as soon as someone (anyone) in a power capacity will definitively give me a precis on what constitutes "flaming". Or is that one of those "I'll know it when I see it" fiascos, where whatever that Moderator decides is au currant, in his opinion, becomes law?
Frisbeeteria
24-08-2004, 23:25
I don't recall pleading ignorance of the rules as an excuse for not following them. On the contrary, I was simply trying to clarify exactly what those rules are, who can impose penalties for breaking them, what the penalties are, and how those decisions are arrived at. Further, if you could tell me how this little game differs from a glorified message board, I'd appreciate your input.
I don't recall accusing you of ignorance, either. In fact, I answered your questions politely and completely. Everything you requested is in one of the stickies mentioned and doesn't need to be repeated in this thread hijack.

Now if you don't mind, can we let this topic get back on topic, please?
Bodies Without Organs
24-08-2004, 23:37
Thanks. I'll take that into consideration as soon as someone (anyone) in a power capacity will definitively give me a precis on what constitutes "flaming". Or is that one of those "I'll know it when I see it" fiascos, where whatever that Moderator decides is au currant, in his opinion, becomes law?

I'll note that I have absolutely no official capacity, but I'll be able to point you to some of the appropriate places.

You'll find the current definitions of forbidden actions available here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288255&page=1

Flaming there is covered by:

"Flame: Expressing anger at someone in uncouth ways with OOC comments (i.e. swearing, being obnoxious, threatening etc.)though it does to watch what you post IC as well unless the other posters know you're not serious"

The etiquette section of the FAQ (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/64367/page=faq) and the Terms and Conditions page (http://www.nationstates.net/pages/legal.html) may also be of interest.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
24-08-2004, 23:39
A list of the people who may be wrong

Oprah
Atkins
Gandhi
Dave Chappell


Ooh, wait I think I got it. The three stooges are the most influential Jews. They truly inspired television violence. And I remember them doing a sketch making fun of Hitler once. So the three stooges are the three influential Jews and Hitler was the one who was wrong. Then again the Three stooges aren’t known for their thinking ability. Never mind.