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Two beautiful masterpeices were stolen from an Oslo museum. However, it seems as if they destroyed these works. The frames have been damaged, the canvases torn from them, and now, the canvases are exposed to wrinkles and tears, being outside their frames. The animals these thieves are. Worse yet, this museum's board members must have a few screws missing from their heads. For one, how did these men ever enter the building, much less leave it in broad daylight? For another, how the hell can't anyone insure such priceless pieces of art?
Edit: I just realized I misspelled thieves. My bad.

The Scream and The Madonna?
How'd they get away with that?
I don't believe that those two paintings weren't insured.

The Scream and The Madonna?
How'd they get away with that?
I don't believe that those two paintings weren't insured.
Yeah, those two. If I were the museum's president, I'd resign, because this is a miserable lapse of security, and just plain stupidity.

Dammit! Ed Munch is one of my favourites. But this is not the first time in recent years that these have been stolen, they'll probably be recovered. The Scream getting stolen is like a natural event in Norway.

The Madonna is such a sweet, ethereal painting. The Scream is so potent and emotional.

Dammit! Ed Munch is one of my favourites. But this is not the first time in recent years that these have been stolen, they'll probably be recovered. The Scream getting stolen is like a natural event in Norway.

The Madonna is such a sweet, ethereal painting. The Scream is so potent and emotional.
I don't know much about that particular artist, but I've always held a place for The Scream. When I look at it, it makes me feel so moved, for no matter how bad a day I'm having, it can't be worse than that guy in the painting.
Then again, there's a price for it being too good. Take the Mona Lisa. It's not really a masterpeice, but it's the most famous painting on the planet. It was stolen twice in 500 years. Now, the security surrounding that thing is probably rivaled only by Fort Knox.

Museums should just secretly substitute the originals with reproductions. The audience will never know the difference and the original can be preserved easier and kept safe from thieves.

Plus, if/when the reproduction gets stolen, just replace it with another reproduction and announce that it has already been recovered :) That'll teach those damn thieves a lesson or two.

Museums should just secretly substitute the originals with reproductions. The audience will never know the difference and the original can be preserved easier and kept safe from thieves.

Plus, if/when the reproduction gets stolen, just replace it with another reproduction and announce that it has already been recovered :) That'll teach those damn thieves a lesson or two.
hehe, that'd confuse the hell out of em.
"The stolen paintings were recovered earlier today...."
"Bwaa? what the hell is in the back of my truck then?!"

There are four originals of the scream, the other three are still in musemums. As for Madonna, I think it was the only one out there.

There are four originals of the scream, the other three are still in musemums. As for Madonna, I think it was the only one out there.

How can there be four originals?

surely one original, and 3 copies produced by the original artist, Yes?

How can there be four originals?

surely one original, and 3 copies produced by the original artist, Yes?

yeah. they're all considered 'original'

How can there be four originals?

surely one original, and 3 copies produced by the original artist, Yes?
Actually, they were all slightly different. I noticed that this version of "The Scream" had a different color scheme than the one most familiar with the public.

I was reading on CNN that even though they have stole to painting, they are now going to have a hard time selling it. The more famous the painting the harder it is to sell.

How can there be four originals?

surely one original, and 3 copies produced by the original artist, Yes?

Munch painted several versions of the piece. And as for how the manager 'let' the theives get away with the paintigs, they happened to be pointing submachineguns at staff and museum visitors. Masterpiece painting they may be, but the staff, quite rightly I think, put more effort into the safety of all concerned.

Also, there's a fine line that museums have to walk along between security of the art and public access to it - it's really annoying when going to a gallery and the pieces are hidden behind perspex and security guards. One of the best bits about gallery visits is seeing paintings really close up, checking how the artist used his brush, seeing the texture of the paint, etc.

Munch painted several versions of the piece. And as for how the manager 'let' the theives get away with the paintigs, they happened to be pointing submachineguns at staff and museum visitors. Masterpiece painting they may be, but the staff, quite rightly I think, put more effort into the safety of all concerned.

Also, there's a fine line that museums have to walk along between security of the art and public access to it - it's really annoying when going to a gallery and the pieces are hidden behind perspex and security guards.
THere weren't even alarms or security cameras at that museum. The thieves probably scouted out the location and decided to steal from it because of the total lack of security. Some conspicuously placed security cameras would have been a good deterrent.

Personally, I don't care. I mean, you shouldn't steal and since they were famous I guess that it is horrible. But I think both of those paintings are just ugly. The Scream, is just....there is no words for a painting like that. Ugh!

I was reading on CNN that even though they have stole to painting, they are now going to have a hard time selling it. The more famous the painting the harder it is to sell.

They probably won't even try selling the paintings. They'll most likely hold them for ransom.

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/WORLD/europe/08/24/norway.scream/story.scream.ap.jpg
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Munch painted several versions of the piece. And as for how the manager 'let' the theives get away with the paintigs, they happened to be pointing submachineguns at staff and museum visitors. Masterpiece painting they may be, but the staff, quite rightly I think, put more effort into the safety of all concerned.

However, in most art museums, the thieves would've never left the building. Most employ what is called "containment security". They wire the paintings to alarms, and if one goes off, they are locked in a particular room until security arrives. It may have developed into a hostage situation, but most art thieves aren't that bold. They're usually in it for the money, not to hurt people. If they were to hurt people, like perhaps a terrorist, they'd probably rip the canvasses with daggers.

They probably won't even try selling the paintings. They'll most likely hold them for ransom.

They'll most likely sell them to a billionaire art lover who'll keep the painting locked up in a room for only himself to enjoy, and we, the great unwashed, won't see the painting ever again.

They'll most likely sell them to a billionaire art lover who'll keep the painting locked up in a room for only himself to enjoy, and we, the great unwashed, won't see the painting ever again.
Even if that were the case, it'd only be a matter of time before these thieves are caught. I'm not a theif, but I'd never rob an art museum, especially during the daytime, unless it was covert. If they sold it, these thieves would lead us exactly to the buyer, and he'd be busted (unless, that is, he lived in a country with no extradition treaty with Norway).

Even if that were the case, it'd only be a matter of time before these thieves are caught.

I don't know about that. Unless the theives were easily identified by museum visitors, they could get away Scott-free.

To illustrate, in August last year, two theives joined a tour of Dumlanrig Castle (about an hour-and-a-bit drive from Edinburgh), overpowered the tourguide and escaped through a kitchen window with a Di Vinci, Madonna with Child valued at £30m ($60m). Despite CCTV footage of the theft, plus photographs that a tourist took of the getaway, neither the theives or the painting still hasn't been found. I bet they had a waiting buyer, ready to hide away the painting as soon as he got it.

Incedentally, my ex-boss was in Drumlanrig Castle grounds as the theft happened, waiting to do some digital photography. He was quickly escorted of the grounds however when he asked a shaken looking guard if they wouldn't mind him "taking some pictures".

I don't know about that. Unless the theives were easily identified by museum visitors, they could get away Scott-free.

To illustrate, in August last year, two theives joined a tour of Dumlanrig Castle (about an hour-and-a-bit drive from Edinburgh), overpowered the tourguide and escaped through a kitchen window with a Di Vinci, Madonna with Child valued at £30m ($60m). Despite CCTV footage of the theft, plus photographs that a tourist took of the getaway, neither the theives or the painting still hasn't been found. I bet they had a waiting buyer, ready to hide away the painting as soon as he got it.

Incedentally, my ex-boss was in Drumlanrig Castle grounds as the theft happened, waiting to do some digital photography. He was quickly escorted of the grounds however when he asked a shaken looking guard if they wouldn't mind him "taking some pictures".
The police found a car. They probably have fingerprints and hair samples all around that thing.