NationStates Jolt Archive

Why do countries care what the rest of the world thinks about them. I mean really I think each indiviviual nation would be better off if we just conquered and killed entire civilizations like they did back in the 1400s. Lets end this UN BS and just form up our alliances and when we have a disagreement try to resolve it peacefully, if you can't invade. But the question is why do people in the countries care what foreigners think. I'm an American and I couldn't care less if every other nation wants the Americans dead because we are better than them and they know it(I know I will get flamed for that).

Well, at least it would solve the problem of population control in the world.

Americans are also 10x bigger then us :p

I'm an American and I couldn't care less if every other nation wants the Americans dead because we are better than them and they know it(I know I will get flamed for that).

Here, Enodscopia, have enough rope to hang yourself... in what way are Americans better than the rest of the world?

war is bad for business

war is bad for business

Not if you're in the arms trade.

... Right, and of course Americans are the only ones who sell weapons.

Here, Enodscopia, have enough rope to hang yourself... in what way are Americans better than the rest of the world?

Just my nationalism kicking in lol.

... Right, and of course Americans are the only ones who sell weapons.

Anyone make that claim? No, I don't think anyone did.

Exactly, so war is good for all countries, unless they happen to be, oh say, Australia, India, Pakistan, Iran, South America, Canada, and China, and North Korea. I figure we'll start with those, and work our way up.

... Right, and of course Americans are the only ones who sell weapons.

Actually many Russian weapons are far better than American weapons they just don't have the money to field them in the numbers we do nor do they have the money to spend on training we do.

Actually many Russian weapons are far better than American weapons they just don't have the money to field them in the numbers we do nor do they have the money to spend on training we do.


LoL, you sure about that?

The Russians barely have enough money to pay for their weapons, how could they have "far better" ones than the US?

Uhm...I'd take a M16 over an AK47 any day...and the US Military is way past the M16. Soon every soldier will be using an M8.

Ill look up some links for you. I dont have time right now to do much but Ill just add this in a wargame against India an American squadron(I think F-16's not sure exactly) lost to an Indian squadron of Migs 3 out of 5 times and by a bad margin. Most people judge Russian weponry by Mid East standards but you can't do that becouse when they sell the weapons to the mid East they leave out most if not all of the electronics except in a few cases(India) becouse they pay more. Ever here of the Yakhont and Moskint missies? AEGIS is shit against them as proven by the AMERICAN navy. If I have more time later Ill look up some more stuff but heres one link.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=20616

check it out. It isn't the best but its what I got on this amount of time.

Uhm...I'd take a M16 over an AK47 any day...and the US Military is way past the M16. Soon every soldier will be using an M8.


I really, really don't like the M8, but if the Army approves, I approve.


I think we should go back to the M-14 though. :D

I agree with you about the M16 being better than the AK47, I fail to see why so many think highly of that Kalishnikrap.

I think each indiviviual nation would be better off if we just conquered and killed entire civilizations like they did back in the 1400s.
People in the Middle Ages were savages, and we are not any more.

You know, there was a thread about the US Air Force vs Indian Air Force some time ago and there was something really skeptical I remember about it...don't remember what though.

You know, there was a thread about the US Air Force vs Indian Air Force some time ago and there was something really skeptical I remember about it...don't remember what though.

Indian Air Force? Seems a little one-sided to me...

People in the Middle Ages were savages, and we are not any more.

No savages anymore? What about Pol-Pot, Kim Jong Il, Saddam Hussein, and Osama bin Laden?

There are plenty of savages left in this world.

Let's go with a few things first. America does not rely on F-16s as much anymore and are moving to the F-21a Raptor which you can't see on radar, goes faster than any current fighter craft and is so incredibly cool. Ahem, but I digress.

We used to live without the UN. If you will look back, in the past 60 years, we have not had a really huge war. Ok, Vietnam and Korea were embarrassing, and Israel and the Arabs never really liked each other, but neither of them care about diplomacy (no offence to either side, but that's how I see the governments acting from 1948-1970). Before that, you have fun stuff like WWII, WWI, Bismarks wars of fun, Mexican American war, territorial wars, the War of 1812/Nepolionic Wars, the Colonial revolutions, and war after war after war before that which generally ended when one had made the war too costly to continue. These days, that's not a problem. What is a problem is if Russia, China, the US, Britain, India and Pakistan all decided to "let loose." By the end of it, over a third of the world would be dead and easily a quarter of all land on earth would be uninhabitable for another 35+ years.

I like diplomacy, though it is annoying.

-Fury

PS: if you have comments you want to send to me, send them to "the Right Arm of U C"

Enodscopia does have a point...

We could solve a lot of the world's problems by not interfering. Let nations who are murdering each other do it, but provide refuge for those fleeing certain death...

First of all why would it be a problem Russia let loose? They are a joke, I laugh at them! They were feared when they were commies now they have nuclear submarines rotting in Murmansk, and back to the original question, WHY?? Your wrong, because if those nutjobs in The Middle East dont like us they will take it as offence to their stupid little gods and in the name of one of them will get angry and with the looser president in the Whitehouse they will attack us, especially with Israel calling on us to kill Iran cause they are developing Nuclear weapons and Israel wants us to do it, though they are perfectly capable of it, I hate Israel! They are making us look even worse!

Why do countries care what the rest of the world thinks about them. I mean really I think each indiviviual nation would be better off if we just conquered and killed entire civilizations like they did back in the 1400s. Lets end this UN BS and just form up our alliances and when we have a disagreement try to resolve it peacefully, if you can't invade. But the question is why do people in the countries care what foreigners think. I'm an American and I couldn't care less if every other nation wants the Americans dead because we are better than them and they know it(I know I will get flamed for that).
Right, but if they start getting pro-active on the whole wanting americans dead thing, you might take issue with that, right?

I really, really don't like the M8, but if the Army approves, I approve.


I think we should go back to the M-14 though. :D

I agree with you about the M16 being better than the AK47, I fail to see why so many think highly of that Kalishnikrap.
You can bury it in sand, walk through swamps or leave it on a shelf for a year and it won't jam. Minimum maintainance and cheap. Its the Toyota pickup of guns

http://www.smvalley.com/mad/graphics/truck.jpg

And it's only a temporary gun anyway. They already plan to replace it with the M28 OICW

EDIT: Which is actually the XM28 until the military adopts it and is still being worked on.

First of all why would it be a problem Russia let loose? They are a joke, I laugh at them! They were feared when they were commies now they have nuclear submarines rotting in Murmansk,

There is at any given moment at least one Typhoon class Russian sub in the Atlantic. It has enough nuclear fire-power to devastate the States and / or Western Europe. It's whereabouts is never known by the west as it is truly a stealth weapon. I hope the day never comes when that is proven to you. Too many Americans automatically assume they are both all-powerful and untouchable despite the little event of 11 September 2001. I wish both Americans and Euros would shout a bit less and read a bit more.

Didn't we spend an assload on missile defense "shields" for a reason?

Just my nationalism kicking in lol.
And your logic kicking out?

America against Russia one on one OR America on CHina one on one America would win. You have to remember war is not all soldiers and fighting, think economics. Yes America could not invade and conquer Russia but nor could anyone invade America, if Russia somehow beat our military and ran how many pissed off Americans do you think would be shooting out of every window? It would make Iraq look like childplay same goes with Russia though if you flip it and we invaded Russia with all of NATO then yes we could conquer but with massive casaulties. China, though big, has the majority of its population, industry and power focused in one small area that would be easy to conquer so yes one on one if CHina pissed us or Russia off enough we could invade and conquer them. You have to remember in 40 or 50 years this will be totally different and probaly flip flopped as long as nothing major doesn't happen(Highly unlikly). But any war one on one between any of those nations would cause massive casaulties

O and a note about the F-22. The Russian(Either SU-35 or Su37 can't remember exactly) is better in many respects such as manueverability exc and its cheaper. The F-22 has much better electronics and such but Russia can't hope to field them in the numbers we will or train its pilots like we do for years till they get theri economy to our level. Which will happen around 2040 at this rate.

Didn't we spend an assload on missile defense "shields" for a reason?Sure have--too bad they don't work, and won't work any time in the foreseeable future.