NationStates Jolt Archive

There are lots of polls here, but economic status often tells more about why you take the stand that you do.

There are lots of polls here, but economic status often tells more about why you take the stand that you do.
Can you explain this better?how much money is in my pocket tells you WHAT about me?

Can you explain this better?how much money is in my pocket tells you WHAT about me?
I suspect you posted this before Jolt let me add the poll. I don't care what you have in your pocket, just where it came from.

Can you explain this better?how much money is in my pocket tells you WHAT about me?

I think he means how you get your money ... your economic class.

Part time job, though my parents still support me (comfortably middle class).

You should have an "other" option. The majority of my income is from royalties and the rest is from tailoring work and wedding services.

....Believe it or not, I need a space for "other."

I suspect you posted this before Jolt let me add the poll. I don't care what you have in your pocket, just where it came from.
*removes foot from mouth*
oops! didn't see that poll!

You should have an "other" option. The majority of my income is from royalties and the rest is from tailoring work and wedding services.
....Believe it or not, I need a space for "other."Oops. Guess we'll have to make do with forum respones.

Yeah there is no "other" ...plus you need a selection for "crime". ;)

I've been in my current job for a little less than a year. The company I work for aren't exactly ethical but they pay well. Once I have enough money saved I plan to go and do some voluntary work overseas.

I like to think of it as mortgaging my soul, rather than selling it.

Wanna know why I stand for what I do?

I'm 24, I'm a country boy from the United States. I've served my country in the time of war, I've never had a problem finding a job, but I have taken jobs that were below my ability because I REFUSE to collect unemployment.

In fact I qualified for welfare while I was in the service. Thats how little money I made. Yet I survived.

I've been poor most of my life, I had to get a job at 13 years old. I had to support myself at 15. Yet I dont want someone to pay for MY healthcare, or pay for me when I refuse to get off my ass and not go to work.

I say whats mine is MINE, I dont want ANYONE giving me ANYTHING because I'm poor, and I sure as HELL dont want someone to take something away from me for some woman who would rather pop out more kids so she can get more money then find a job.

If you dont have food, for $200 you can get a gun, and for $10 you can get a box of bullets and you can eat for months. If you dont like that, dont eat!

I am an independent contractor. Since there was no choice for this, I voted "independently wealthy." Oh well, since all the bitter, envious socialists/communists/anarchists here think that anyone with a dollar more than them is "wealthy," my choice is probably accurate.

I am an independent contractor. Since there was no choice for this, I voted "independently wealthy." Oh well, since all the bitter, envious socialists/communists/anarchists here think that anyone with a dollar more than them is "wealthy," my choice is probably accurate.

Well, alright, I won't call you wealthy, but I will call you arrogant. End of discussion...flamebaiter.

Well, alright, I won't call you wealthy, but I will call you arrogant. End of discussion...flamebaiter.

Who is worse: the flamebaiter, or the person who falls for the bait?

I must have struck a nerve. :D

I'm independently wealthy, by that I mean I have inherited enough money that I never need to work.

I do however work, because if I didn't I'd go nuts; I need something to do. If I don't like my job, I can always quit and not have to worry about how I'll pay the bills.

I love paying taxes. I could easily afford to move to a tax haven and not pay them, but I believe in social responsibility, and love my country. I won't leave, and am happy to support people whoi are less well off than I am. I grudge scroungers and lazy folk, but there are many who genuinely need support, and the state is the best way to provide that.

"Do not covet", I hate folk with a "what's mine is mine" attitude, I believe in "what's mine is yours". I never earned this money, so what right do I have to it more than anyone else?

Who is worse: the flamebaiter, or the person who falls for the bait?

I must have struck a nerve. :D

Yes, I'm allergic to arrogance...no offence of course...but it makes me turn red and lose my temper occasionally...or i may incontrollably roll my eyes.

:p

Let's see.


Been on my own since 17.
Worked my way through school in my late 20's.
Opened my own business in my mid 30's.
One happy marriage.
Two kids.
Sitting in a pretty good tax bracket.



So naturally .... I'm a liberal.

Stipended fellowship... but most of that gets sucked right back into housing, so I also have a part-time research job: just reading books and writing up reviews, basically.

I fit into two of them.

I am a student and therefore recieve a student loan (which doesn't quite cover living expenses). However I supplement that with a part time job (holidays at the moment but the first job which I had, which was full time, I hated. I now work part time stacking shelves).

Thank you for calling Domino's. This is Matt. Will this be take out or delivery?

I say whats mine is MINE, I dont want ANYONE giving me ANYTHING because I'm poor, and I sure as HELL dont want someone to take something away from me for some woman who would rather pop out more kids so she can get more money then find a job.

Just for the record, you can't get extra money for kids you have while on welfare now. That's been changed for a while.

As for me, I'm on a fellowship that pays my tuition and salary as a graduate research assistant. And before anyone freaks out, no - it's not a government fellowship, so none of you are paying taxes to put me through school =).

Since I started this topic, I guess I should state that I'm currently employed full-time. I've also been a small business owner for over 20 years, though I hire people to run that for me.

I'm surprised at the number of full-timers here. I really expected a bigger assortment of allowance and after-school-job types to respond to this. Reckon there are a few of us old fogies who stay interested in what NS General has to share, without needing to visit the spam topics.

I have a part time job, which I continue when I go abck to class.

I would have to say other. I had a full time job over the summer, but now I'm back in school, and, as such, can't work.

Part time work at an afterschool club in the term time and I do volenteer work in the holidays so I dont die of bordom (also makes me feel good, like I am doing something usefull).

I need to start saving up for university now, as its pricy over here in the UK.

I'm independently wealthy, by that I mean I have inherited enough money that I never need to work.

I do however work, because if I didn't I'd go nuts; I need something to do. If I don't like my job, I can always quit and not have to worry about how I'll pay the bills.

I love paying taxes. I could easily afford to move to a tax haven and not pay them, but I believe in social responsibility, and love my country. I won't leave, and am happy to support people whoi are less well off than I am. I grudge scroungers and lazy folk, but there are many who genuinely need support, and the state is the best way to provide that.

"Do not covet", I hate folk with a "what's mine is mine" attitude, I believe in "what's mine is yours". I never earned this money, so what right do I have to it more than anyone else?

Perhaps your problem is that you take for granted the fact that you will always be able to sustain yourself. How about you give away all your money and try to survive on your own hard earned cash? Then try to critisize those of us who feel that our money should go towards our ends.

Let's see.


Been on my own since 17.
Worked my way through school in my late 20's.
Opened my own business in my mid 30's.
One happy marriage.
Two kids.
Sitting in a pretty good tax bracket.



So naturally .... I'm a liberal.Been working since 16.
Kids happened so school had to wait until late 30's.
Took over the shop I was working for in the late Reagan era,
had it fail under Bush the first.
Clawed my way out of ruin during Clinton's term.
Married the mother of 4 of my children after 14 years of shacking up.
Now own my own home and make a pretty good living.
Don't mind paying my share of taxes and do what I can to help those less fortunate than myself.


Of course I'm also a liberal.

hmmm im a housewife
i guess that goes in "other" too

Been working since 16.
Kids happened so school had to wait until late 30's.
Took over the shop I was working for in the late Reagan era,
had it fail under Bush the first.
Clawed my way out of ruin during Clinton's term.
Married the mother of 4 of my children after 14 years of shacking up.
Now own my own home and make a pretty good living.
Don't mind paying my share of taxes and do what I can to help those less fortunate than myself.


Of course I'm also a liberal.
Been working since I was 14
Kid happened so school waited until mid 20's, but I worked two part-time jobs while I got my BA.
Grad school happened next and it involved a full teaching load.
Have a fellowship now that pays me just enough to starve on, so I also have a part-time job at a brewery to make it comfortable.
Love making enough money so I have to pay taxes.

Of course, also a liberal.

I believe in "what's mine is yours". I never earned this money, so what right do I have to it more than anyone else?

Nice! Send me some money! I'll tgram the addy to ya. :D

Nice! Send me some money! I'll tgram the addy to ya. :D

Go for it. What do you need the money for?

Perhaps your problem is that you take for granted the fact that you will always be able to sustain yourself. How about you give away all your money and try to survive on your own hard earned cash? Then try to critisize those of us who feel that our money should go towards our ends.

Firstly, why would I do that?, unless the government takes it from me.
Secondly, who would I give it to?

That I will always be able to sustain myself is a reason not to pay tax. If i get sick, i can pay for treatment. If I lose my job, I can keep my houses and my cars. My independent income is sufficient to pay the bills and keep me well fed. Why would I want unemployment benefit? So I should have that scrapped. I can afford private security guards, so why pay for the police? If I ever have children I can afford private tuition, why should I pay for schools?

I pay more tax than you and I get less back than you, because I can provide everything for myself. Why should I pay tax?

The answer is simple: social responsibility. I should pay tax because I can afford to. Others should receive that money because they need it.

Thank you for calling Domino's. This is Matt. Will this be take out or delivery?

Welcome to Hell Pizza, Dave speaking.


My pizza place > yours


PWND!

:D do you drive or work in the shop?

Well, for the past five years, I've been working fulltime. Starting in September, I'll be working part-time, and living off a students loan.

Firstly, why would I do that?, unless the government takes it from me.
Secondly, who would I give it to?

That I will always be able to sustain myself is a reason not to pay tax. If i get sick, i can pay for treatment. If I lose my job, I can keep my houses and my cars. My independent income is sufficient to pay the bills and keep me well fed. Why would I want unemployment benefit? So I should have that scrapped. I can afford private security guards, so why pay for the police? If I ever have children I can afford private tuition, why should I pay for schools?

I pay more tax than you and I get less back than you, because I can provide everything for myself. Why should I pay tax?

The answer is simple: social responsibility. I should pay tax because I can afford to. Others should receive that money because they need it.

What is this social responsibility bullshit? Why should I be responsible for you, or you for me? Do we really have an obligation as humans to protect each other? If we did, then shouldn't we all live together, get along well, etc.? Your "social responsibility" means that you are willing to let others take your money (hard earned or not, although it definitely seems that it is not) and use it to benefit them. What good does that do for you? A better question, what good does that do for them? In addition, by supporting the government, you neglect to see that they are failing to do their jobs properly. The public education system is a mess (and thanks to one GW, getting worse), and the police force is more of a nusiance than a help in most cities. People have families that have been on welfare for multiple generations. By blindly paying taxes because of this "social responsibility," you are endorsing a bad system that, due to lack of challenges, is just becoming more corrupt and shoddy.

I am self-employed as an entertainer, and I have a part-time job as a dealer in the local casino. It provides health insurance and evens out the incomee bumps in the feast-or-famine 'clowning industry'.

Currently, I'm living off of financial aid and money earned by my fiancee. However, once school starts, Monday, I'm looking for a full-time job.