NationStates Jolt Archive


Another political compass test.

New Vinnland
23-08-2004, 09:07
More of the same. But different. Yeah.

Apologies if this has been posted before.

http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html

I'm libertarian with a score of:

Personal issues is 80%.
Economic issues is 60%.

In other words, I'm a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, which is probably the most general and generic definition of libertarian.
Sydenia
23-08-2004, 09:16
Centrists favor selective government intervention and emphasize what they commonly describe as "practical solutions" to current problems. They tend to keep an open mind on political issues. Many centrists feel that government serves as a check on excessive liberty.

Your Personal issues Score is 60%.
Your Economic issues Score is 40%.

Interesting.
Enter nation here
23-08-2004, 09:21
libertarians support a great deal of liberty and freedom of choice in both personal and economic matters. They believe government's only purpose is to protect people from coercion and violence. They value individual responsibility, and they tolerate economic and social diversity.

Your Personal issues Score is 100%.
Your Economic issues Score is 70%.

this is the 3rd political quiz thingy I've seen today. At least this one is a differnt one.
Nuknuk
23-08-2004, 09:31
Atleast these quizes are educational by explaining the underlying dynamics of political systems. Most people are ignorant on how parties actually define themselves and base their opinions on social stereotypes (which are a simple black and white perception of things). Also, people need to be aware that there are more options available rather than the typical liberal vs. conservative shite. Politics are too complex of a thing to be generalizing, like people unfortunately tend to do.
Universalist Totality
23-08-2004, 09:54
I'm a Liberterian according to this thing. No big surprise.
Cyberous
23-08-2004, 10:01
According to your answers, your political philosophy is: centrist

Your Personal issues Score is 60%.
Your Economic issues Score is 60%.

Hmm.
Jonothana
23-08-2004, 10:10
Your Personal issues Score is 80%.
Your Economic issues Score is 20%.
Nuknuk
23-08-2004, 10:14
Ya know... the questions from all these politcal quizes would probably make for some good NS issues.

So... chop, chop. Get on it, fellas.
New Vinnland
23-08-2004, 11:05
Not a bad idea, actually. I think I'll do that, given the recient crop of crap.
Peasant peons
23-08-2004, 11:15
Seems like quite a shit test, really, far too overly simplistic with not much depth. On the same page if you read it it also says socalism and facism are the same things just on different sides, much bullshit and bias shining through really.
Dalradia
23-08-2004, 11:18
Liberal

Personal : 90
Economic: 20

Left-Liberals generally embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but support central decision-making in economics. They want the government to help the disadvantaged in the name of fairness. Liberals tend to tolerate social diversity, but work for what they might describe as "economic equality."

That seems to sum me up quite nicely.
Dalradia
23-08-2004, 11:23
Seems like quite a shit test, really, far too overly simplistic with not much depth. On the same page if you read it it also says socalism and facism are the same things just on different sides, much bullshit and bias shining through really.

No, it's a very simple test, and therefore will have a limited scope, but for something so simple it is very effective.

What bias is there?
New Vinnland
23-08-2004, 11:30
Seems like quite a shit test, really, far too overly simplistic with not much depth. On the same page if you read it it also says socalism and facism are the same things just on different sides, much bullshit and bias shining through really.


Umm, socialism and facism, while quite different, are still authoritarian; i.e. the government has a large amount of (if not total) control over everything.
For example, Hitler was rightwing and Stalin was leftwing, yet but both ruled with an iron fist.

It was your perception, not the test, that was skewed.
Superpower07
23-08-2004, 12:08
Your Personal issues Score is 70%.
Your Economic issues Score is 40%.

I consider myself to be a moderate libertarian and a fiscal conservative - I ended up being centrist, so I'd say this is more accurate than politcalcompass.org
Peasant peons
23-08-2004, 12:12
Umm, socialism and facism, while quite different, are still authoritarian; i.e. the government has a large amount of (if not total) control over everything.
For example, Hitler was rightwing and Stalin was leftwing, yet but both ruled with an iron fist.

It was your perception, not the test, that was skewed.


Not really, Stalin was a form of red facism it was not socialism. You can have a socailist society without anyform on centre control. So comparing socalism and facism as the same thing, is just a way of trying to promote the wrongs and injusties on one system onto another system that is flawed. The perception of the test is thing, the bias it promotes however is not.
Pelliwink
23-08-2004, 12:39
I think the questions are loaded. A question like "Government should not censor speech, press, media or Internet" is much more likely to get agreement than say, "Government should do nothing about child pornography". Similarly, "government handouts" is a perjorative term suggesting that business are getting something for nothing.

The wording of the questions is such that people are more likely to come out as libertarian.
West - Europa
23-08-2004, 13:46
Your Personal issues Score is 90%.
Your Economic issues Score is 50%

Left-liberal/libertarian, being just on the border between the two fields.
Doesn't surprise me.
Brutanion
23-08-2004, 13:53
Your Personal issues Score is 90%.
Your Economic issues Score is 40%.

Left Liberal.


Trouble is that it requires a decent, popular government.
I'd rather see proportional representation.
imported_Sozy
23-08-2004, 14:21
Social: 100%
Economic: 100%

It doesn't surprise me at all.
Kanabia
23-08-2004, 15:11
Left-Liberal
Left-Liberals generally embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but support central decision-making in economics. They want the government to help the disadvantaged in the name of fairness. Liberals tend to tolerate social diversity, but work for what they might describe as "economic equality."

Your Personal issues Score is 100%.
Your Economic issues Score is 0%.

Good point Pelliwink. I didn't think of that.

I also disagree with "At the very bottom of the chart, left-authoritarians are usually called socialists" - I'm a socialist, and i'm not authoritarian...
Keruvalia
23-08-2004, 15:54
Your Personal issues Score is 100%.
Your Economic issues Score is 0%.

Surprise Surprise Surprise! Keruvalia is a Liberal! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Like we didn't already know that.
BAAWA
23-08-2004, 16:01
Libertarian. 100% on both.
Kanabia
23-08-2004, 16:03
Your Personal issues Score is 100%.
Your Economic issues Score is 0%.

Surprise Surprise Surprise! Keruvalia is a Liberal! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Like we didn't already know that.

Same score as me, cool :D
New Barnsdale
23-08-2004, 16:04
im left librel no surpraise their
Disganistan
23-08-2004, 16:05
I think this test is a bit more descriptive.

and again, yet another political test (http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=10163230328767337993)

Your economic score is 9, and your personal score is 9.

With a high personal and economic score, you appear to have a libertarian view of politics. Libertarians prefer freedom in both the personal and business realms, and dislike government control and intervention in these areas. Libertarians believe individuals should be allowed to make their own social and economic decisions
Kanabia
23-08-2004, 16:12
I think this test is a bit more descriptive.

and again, yet another political test (http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=10163230328767337993)

Your economic score is 9, and your personal score is 9.

With a high personal and economic score, you appear to have a libertarian view of politics. Libertarians prefer freedom in both the personal and business realms, and dislike government control and intervention in these areas. Libertarians believe individuals should be allowed to make their own social and economic decisions

I got:
Your economic score is 2 (I guess the media question stopped me getting a one), and your personal score is 9.
Reptiliador
23-08-2004, 16:23
According to your answers, your political philosophy is: right-conservative

Right-conservatives favor freedom of choice on economic issues, but want official standards in personal matters. They tend to support the free market, but frequently want the government to defend the community from what they see as threats to morality or to the traditional family structure.

In my heart, I know I'm right!
Dalradia
23-08-2004, 16:23
I think the questions are loaded. A question like "Government should not censor speech, press, media or Internet" is much more likely to get agreement than say, "Government should do nothing about child pornography". Similarly, "government handouts" is a perjorative term suggesting that business are getting something for nothing.

The wording of the questions is such that people are more likely to come out as libertarian.

Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Reptiliador
23-08-2004, 16:28
Pelliwink says:

"Similarly, 'government handouts' is a perjorative term suggesting that business are getting something for nothing."

You're exactly right. Good for you, for seeing through the bias.
The Land of the Enemy
23-08-2004, 16:30
I was ranked as a Right Conservative:
Personal Score 20%
Economic Score 60%

I find it odd because I live in the East San Francisco Bay Area and i get the San Francisco Chronicle as my newspaper. The Chronicle is definately one of the most liberal paper in the US (it may even beat out the New York Times; and they're very proud of their liberal slant). I often agree with what is in the Chronicle, so it's weird to be called a Conservative.

Edit: Maybe not, I think I could be called Conservative, but I would be a true Conservative, not one of those Neo-Con bastards.
Kwangistar
23-08-2004, 16:55
Libertarian
Libertarians support a great deal of liberty and freedom of choice in both personal and economic matters. They believe government's only purpose is to protect people from coercion and violence. They value individual responsibility, and they tolerate economic and social diversity.

Your Personal issues Score is 80%.
Your Economic issues Score is 80%.
Kybernetia
23-08-2004, 17:38
Your Personal issues Score is 60%.
Your Economic issues Score is 70%

So I´m still centrists but on the line to Libertarianism.
I see myself as centre-right, though economic liberal (pro-privatisation and tax cuts, for less state).
Raishann
23-08-2004, 17:42
Right-conservative

Your Personal issues Score is 40%.
Your Economic issues Score is 80%.

Got very close to centrist and libertarian, though...only 1 line away from both.

The other quiz...

Your economic score is 5, and your personal score is 4.

This one showed me as a centrist, albeit with conservative leanings.

I'd say between the two, this pretty much got it right for me.
Hajekistan
23-08-2004, 17:54
I got full marks on the first one (That would be 100%, 100% for those who don't get it).
The second one hates me and so I wasn't allowed to take it.
Sarzonia
23-08-2004, 17:59
According to your answers, your political philosophy is on the border of: left-liberal and libertarian

Left-Liberal
Left-Liberals generally embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but support central decision-making in economics. They want the government to help the disadvantaged in the name of fairness. Liberals tend to tolerate social diversity, but work for what they might describe as "economic equality."
Libertarian
Libertarians support a great deal of liberty and freedom of choice in both personal and economic matters. They believe government's only purpose is to protect people from coercion and violence. They value individual responsibility, and they tolerate economic and social diversity.

Your Personal issues Score is 90%.
Your Economic issues Score is 50%.

Hmmm...
Sarzonia
23-08-2004, 18:03
In the other one, I got:

Your economic score is 6, and your personal score is 9.

With a high personal and economic score, you appear to have a libertarian view of politics. Libertarians prefer freedom in both the personal and business realms, and dislike government control and intervention in these areas. Libertarians believe individuals should be allowed to make their own social and economic decisions.
CSW
23-08-2004, 18:17
Your Personal issues Score is 100%.
Your Economic issues Score is 60%.
Renard
23-08-2004, 18:34
Left Liberal on the first one (Personal = 90%, Economic = 30%) and 9 and 7 for the second.

I think the first was more accurate for me: Big on personal freedom but warey of large corporations - Governments should be for the people not the corporations.
Zaxon
23-08-2004, 20:14
Your Personal issues Score is 100%.
Your Economic issues Score is 90%.

Definitely deep in the Libertarianism....
Free Soviets
24-08-2004, 01:32
Seems like quite a shit test, really, far too overly simplistic with not much depth. On the same page if you read it it also says socalism and facism are the same things just on different sides, much bullshit and bias shining through really.

that's because it is just a bit of libertarian party recruitment propaganda. though the new versions at least try to pretend not to be. the original would put mussolini himself in the libertarian category. a guy named bryan caplan made a better libertarian test a while back. http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi
Kerubia
24-08-2004, 01:38
Interesting. I'm an almost full-fledged Libertarian by this test.

Your Personal issues Score is 80%.
Your Economic issues Score is 100%.
Myrth
24-08-2004, 01:43
Your Personal issues Score is 70%.
Your Economic issues Score is 0%.

All hail the Socialist System.
Enodscopia
24-08-2004, 02:59
Your Personal issues Score is 20%.
Your Economic issues Score is 100%.
Gallywinter
24-08-2004, 03:10
Libertarian.

Funny thing too, cause I hate libertarians: case in point, take a look at Bill Mahr. Seems like everyone that IS Libertarian, is extreme in that, and outspokenly obnoxious
Celticadia
24-08-2004, 06:34
I don't like this test. I am by no means a libertarian, although I am close to it according to the test. They listed me as a Centrist though which I am. The dot was in the wrong corner of the Centrist box though. I took a more accurate test on another website which listed me as a Centrist almost right in the center.