NationStates Jolt Archive


National Anthem

Cream Sands
22-08-2004, 23:09
To all the brits, do you recon that our national anthem is worht keeping, or do you recon something like land of hope and glory or rule britannia should take its place.
The fairy tinkerbelly
22-08-2004, 23:11
keep the one we've got!
Crossman
22-08-2004, 23:11
God Save The Queen!!!

I'm sorry... I'm an American... I'll be going now...

*dashes away*
The Land of Glory
22-08-2004, 23:14
Keep the one we've got, but we should also have one recognised for England as Wales and Scotland have their own demi-national anthems. For such I would suggest Jerusalem, I Vow to Thee My Country or The Land of Hope and Glory (from where I draw my nation's name).
Luckdonia
23-08-2004, 16:41
I think Rule Britannia is better known & more rousing.
A lot of people seem to think it is our national anthem anyway.
Save the queen from what?
Kybernetia
23-08-2004, 17:07
Rule Britania is nice. It would make Britains anthem more simular to the American (The star-spangeled banner) or the French (The Marsaillese) ones.
Those are more patriotic anthems who refer to the early fights of those nations at the end of the 18 th century.
Rule Britania is not as martialic as those two but still goes more in this patriotic direction.
I like the current anthem as well but it only refers to the monarchy and not to the country. Probably Britain could have two anthems like Denmark, which has a royal anthem and a state anthem.
Kybernetia
23-08-2004, 17:08
sorry: forget my statement: I´m not British.
Seosavists
23-08-2004, 17:10
Amhán Na bhFiann

Sinne Fianna Fáil,
Atá Fá gheall ag Éirinn,
Buidhean dár sluagh tar rúinn do ráinig chughainn:
Fámhoídh bheírh saor,
Sean-tír ár sinnsear feasta
Ní fágfar fá'n tíorán ná fa'n tráil;
Anocht a theigeamh sa bhearna baoghail,
Le gean ar Gaedhí chun báis nó saoghail,
Le gunna sgréach: Fá lamhach na piléar.
Seo Libh canaidh amhrán na bhFiann.

Seo dhibh a cháirde duan oglaidh
Caithréimeach, bríoghmhar, ceolmhar.
Ár dteinte cnámh go buacach táid,
`S an spéir go min réaltógach.
Is fionmhar faobhrach sinn chun gleo
'S go tiúnmhar glé roimh tigheacht do'n ló,
Fa ciúnas chaoimh na h-oidhche ar seol,
Seo libh, canaídh amhrán na bhFiann.

Cois banta réidhe, ar árdaibh sléibhe.
Ba bhuadhach ár rinnsear romhainn,
Ag lámhach go tréan fá'n sár- bhrat séin
Tá thuas sa ghaoith go seolta;
Ba dhúthchas riamh d'ár gcine cháidh
Gan iompáil riar ó imirt áir,
'Siubhal mar iad i gcoinnibh rámhaid
Seo libh, canaidh amhrán na bhFiann.

A buidhean nach fann d'fuil Ghaoidheal is Gall
Sinn breacadh lae na saoirse,
Tá sgéimhle 's sgannradh í gcroidhthibh namhad,
Roimh ranngaibh laochra ár dtíre;
Ár dteinte is tréith gan spréach anois,
Sin luinne ghlé san spéir anoir,
'S an bíodhbha i raon na bpiléar agaibh:
Seo libh, canaidh amhrán na bhFiann.

Oops wrong one :)
Kanabia
23-08-2004, 17:10
Yeah, go Rule Britannia.

*hums tune*

Oh, wait, i'm Australian. *hums Waltzing Matilda*
DHomme
23-08-2004, 17:18
I dont like the national anthem, forcing you to praise queen lizzie part II.

We should replace it with "la bamba"
PravdaRai Britain
23-08-2004, 17:19
Pravda-Raï Britain's essentially meant to be how Britain would be if i ruled it. The national anthem would be a modified version of John Mellencamp's 'Authority Song'. Fear teh Irony or something :P
Conceptualists
23-08-2004, 17:26
Sinne Fianna Fáil,
Atá Fá gheall ag Éirinn,

That is about the sum total of wht I can remember/pronounce properly of the Soldier's Song. Bloody good song.

I used to know someone who used to claim it was illegal to sing in England (it isn't) and would take great pleasure in singing it (badly, remember my inferment that I couldn't pronounce things properly? Well I could do better).

God Save the Queen sounds like it was written by a mediocre GCSE student during an exam and the tune sounds like a funeral march.

Rule Brittania is too imperialistic for my tastes. I vow to thee my country is too full of that sickly nationalism that triggers my gag reflex.

I think either a new one should be commisioned (after Tony's out, could you imagine the tripe that new Labour would choose? "Things can only get better"). I like Jerusalem, but it is too England focused.

I think we should have The Red Flag to the original tune (The White Cockade) rather than the dirge that Labour sing to.
Strensall
23-08-2004, 17:43
Ah, Rule Britannia. It would be so much better than God Save The Queen. We'd just have to wait a couple of decades so as to not offend the majority of voters (old people).

A National Anthem for England would be good too, and I'd suggest Land of Hope and Glory for that one.
PravdaRai Britain
01-09-2004, 16:55
Got to say when i heard God Save the Queen as rendered by people watching the Olympics in the pub the other day it sounded Teutonic and threatening like a Nazi drinking song.
Munsen
01-09-2004, 17:00
it should generally be..."always look on the bright side of life"
or at funerals/state mourning occasions..."there is a light that never goes out"
or political/grand events..."something decent by Oasis or Verve"

not some ancient moralistic 19th century dirge !!
Aust
01-09-2004, 17:06
How about, 'Like a bat out of hell', the full thing.
Jeldred
01-09-2004, 17:08
Dump "God Save the Queen", for pity's sake. A tedious dirge with insulting verses, sung to the tune of a hymn originally composed by some French nuns beseeching God to help Louis XIV recover from a haemmorhoid operation. Great.

I vote for the theme from "The Archers". It's rousing, it's indisputably British, and we all know the tune, and the words too:

Tum-te-tum te tum-te-tum,
tum-te-tum te tum tum!
Tum-te-tum te tum-te-tum,
tum-te tiddley tum!
Tum-te tiddley tum-te tiddley tum-te tiddley tummmm,
tum-te-tum te tum-te-tum,
tum-te-tiddley tum!
Kryozerkia
01-09-2004, 17:15
I had no problem with God Save the Queen until Mike Harris wanted to put it back in schools... Fortunately it didn't fly, but...damn that was a scary moment in my life! That was almost as bad as making Canadians stand during "America the Beautiful" in the 5th inning... an insult to us! Luckily that lasted only one game at the Skydome before they ditched it.
Fnarr Fnarr
01-09-2004, 17:18
:headbang:

Definitley "Killing In The Name Of" by RATM.

:headbang:
Kroblexskij
01-09-2004, 17:22
i think americas is too violent and britains is annoying so i'm sticking with good old Soviet Russia

hums tune

***Soyuz nerushimiy respublik svobodnykh
Splotila naveki velikaya Rus'!
Da zdravstvuet sozdanniy voley narodov
Velikiy, moguchiy Sovetskiy Soyuz!***

oh there are americans here
Military Weapons Inc
01-09-2004, 17:27
violence=good. duh.

:mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5:
New Raveena
01-09-2004, 17:36
A national anthem where we don't have to change the sex of the Monarch when we get a new one would be good...

Think Jerusalem would be better than Rule Britannia, though....or The Self Preservation Society...doo doo doo doo doo doo-doo-doo doo doo doo doooo

I'm Welsh, what do I care. I get to sing a good, powerful national anthem most of the time.
Colodia
01-09-2004, 17:40
i think americas is too violent and britains is annoying so i'm sticking with good old Soviet Russia

hums tune

***Soyuz nerushimiy respublik svobodnykh
Splotila naveki velikaya Rus'!
Da zdravstvuet sozdanniy voley narodov
Velikiy, moguchiy Sovetskiy Soyuz!***

oh there are americans here

point being...?
Quaquaquaquaqua
01-09-2004, 17:41
I'm Canadian... so i dont know any of these national anthems, but the one I like the best is Radiohead's "The National Anthem"
Tweedy The Hat
01-09-2004, 17:55
To all the brits, do you recon that our national anthem is worht keeping, or do you recon something like land of hope and glory or rule britannia should take its place.


A new one should be composed which represents Great Britain, not just England and certainly not the monarchy, but the whole of Great Britain so that all the British can associate with it .... that is until all the 'British' nations go their own way!
Neudegg
01-09-2004, 17:56
To all the brits, do you recon that our national anthem is worht keeping, or do you recon something like land of hope and glory or rule britannia should take its place.

Land of hope and glory sounds good. I think the European Anthem is great! Long live the European Union, long live Europe!
Alexias
01-09-2004, 18:06
hey guy up there,don make Canadians sound ignorant please.

Soviet Russia is gone,fool.The Russian Federation is here to stay,although I think Mr.Putin is going to try to increase his power a hellofalot.

Then again,he may be pro Soviet...he did change Voldgrad's name back to Stalingrad for some reason...................
Alexias
01-09-2004, 18:08
And national anthems,well,I personally think it would be simpler just to stick with what works and has been working forever,even if the message is outdated.But what do I know.
Zeppistan
01-09-2004, 18:20
I've never minded God Save the (insert gender-correct royal title of the moment here), except that in too many performances it is played at a speed that makes a funeral dirge sound lively....
Von Witzleben
01-09-2004, 19:34
How about the theme from Blackadder?
Wyczestr
01-09-2004, 19:39
I don't think Putin changed Volgograd back to Stalingrad, as the city's been called Volgograd since Khruschev's time. However, he has brought back the soviet national anthem (the music, not the words) and i think he reintroduced Red Star battle flags in the military.
Kroblexskij
01-09-2004, 20:04
point being...?

its soviet russia
Kroblexskij
01-09-2004, 20:12
I don't think Putin changed Volgograd back to Stalingrad, as the city's been called Volgograd since Khruschev's time. However, he has brought back the soviet national anthem (the music, not the words) and i think he reintroduced Red Star battle flags in the military.

if putin had the backing; he would build back the union and have a new flag ( see attachment)
Oukratia
01-09-2004, 21:00
Rule Britania is nice. It would make Britains anthem more simular to the American (The star-spangeled banner) or the French (The Marsaillese) ones.
Those are more patriotic anthems who refer to the early fights of those nations at the end of the 18 th century.
Rule Britania is not as martialic as those two but still goes more in this patriotic direction.
I like the current anthem as well but it only refers to the monarchy and not to the country. Probably Britain could have two anthems like Denmark, which has a royal anthem and a state anthem.Patriotism is scary. And dangerous, look at all the nazi's in WW2....*silently*and Amerika*silently*:$
Myrth
01-09-2004, 21:12
Rule Britannia is imperialistic. We don't really have much of an Empire any more. I'd be happy with Land of Hope and Glory, provided they change the lines which mention God.
Myrth
01-09-2004, 21:18
Although of course, if I had my way, we'd all be singing The Internationale :D
Conceptualists
01-09-2004, 21:22
Rule Britannia is imperialistic. We don't really have much of an Empire any more. I'd be happy with Land of Hope and Glory, provided they change the lines which mention God.
Although of course, if I had my way, we'd all be singing The Internationale
I suppose the Internationale could be seen as Imperialistic. But it by far the best idea (after the Red Flag). Question is, do we sing it in French, English (in the original translation) or 'Modern English (a la Billy Bragg's rendering of it)?
Siljhouettes
01-09-2004, 21:31
It should be replaced with Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen.
Globes R Us
01-09-2004, 22:16
You can see why the Scots are a bit touchy about it.

1. God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us;
God save the Queen!

2. O Lord our God arise,
Scatter her enemies
And make them fall;
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
God save us all!

3. Thy choicest gifts in store
On her be pleased to pour;
Long may she reign;
May she defend our laws,
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice,
God save the Queen!
4. Not in this land alone,
But be God's mercies known,
From shore to shore!
Lord make the nations see,
That men should brothers be,
And form one family,
The wide world over.

5. From every latent foe,
From the assassins blow,
God save the Queen!
O'er her thine arm extend,
For Britain's sake defend,
Our mother, prince, and friend,
God save the Queen!

6. Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the King!
Globes R Us
01-09-2004, 22:19
By the way, God Save the Queen is not officially our national anthem. It is used only traditionally.