NationStates Jolt Archive

Prove to me that the following statement is false. I dare you. In fact I double dog dare you.

Nothing is absolute.

It must be false, to fulfill it's own trueness.

1+1=2 in base 10.

It must be false, to fulfill it's own trueness.
Huh, what? Explain.

1+1=2 in base 10.
Nope sorry, that doesn't quite prove it false.

Huh, what? Explain.

If nothing is absolute, then the statement 'nothing is absolute' is not absolute- and thus not always true. It's self-defeating.

Not the way I see it. The way that I see that only helps prove it correct.

Huh, what? Explain.

If your statemeant is always true, it's absolut, right? Then you have just proved that it's false. Paradox.

Not the way I see it. The way that I see that only helps prove it correct.
It's like "Everything I say is a lie. I am telling the truth".

IOW: if nothing is absolute, then the statement "nothing is absolute" cannot be an absolute, meaning there are absolutes, meaning the statement is false.

QED

Yeah, it's paradoxical.

If "Nothing is absolute" then really, nothing can be true, therefore meaning the statement is false.

If "Nothing is absolute" is false, the only way that it could in fact have the option of being a true statement, it again negates it.

Therefore, you have found a statement that by definition cannot be true, but is in fact always false, no matter what situation it is.

Wow, thanks for a laugh today amigo,

-R. S. of UC

Not the way I see it. The way that I see that only helps prove it correct.

So, how would you like us to prove you wrong? This game seems to be a game where you make up the rules as you see fit, tbh.

If your statemeant is always true, it's absolut, right? Then you have just proved that it's false. Paradox.
I never said that it was always true. I just want to see if somebody can prove that it’s false. If I were to explain any further I would be doing just that and I want to leave that job for somebody else.

I never said that it was always true. I just want to see if somebody can prove that it’s false. If I were to explain any further I would be doing just that and I want to leave that job for somebody else.

well, you asked us to prove it wrong, we did and then you said you didn't think we had...

OK lets look at it this way. Nothing is absolute, including the statement that nothing is absolute meaning that there are things which are absolute. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that it is absolutely wrong. “Nothing is absolute” is both true and false but not at the same time. The statement that nothing is absolute is correct in the way that many things are open to perception. However in well defined areas such as mathematics where 1+1=2 in the base 10 math system, that seems to show that some things are absolute. However the statement would require some sort of context in order for that to work. Something in which I failed to provide.
*Smacks forehead*
The statement in it’s raw form would make a paradox. But since I don’t believe in paradoxes that simply means that there was something wrong with the original statement. In this case that would be context. My bad.

The unpresence of something i.e. nothing, is absolute for why it is not present, and continues to stay unpresent than therefore it shall remain like that absolutely. if the unpresence becomes presence, than it is no longer nothing, but something, and so that something shall be absolute until it nothign again, under which context it is not the original thign but somethign other, and therefore both nothing, and somethign are determined to be absolute as long as they remain what it is they are.

Nothing is absolute.

A 5 oz. bird can't carry a 1 lb. coconut.

6*9=42.

The universe has spoken :p

0 degrees Kelvin is absolute.

Vodka is Absolute as well.

While nothing material may be absolute (is there anywhere in the universe where absolute 0 actually exists?) Ideas can be absolute, as long as you are absolute about your absolute convictions. I absolutely believe that absolution can be acheived by embracing the absolute absolutely.

Or maybe not, I'm not sure...

6*9=42.

Base 13.

No offence Goed, but isn't it kind of geeky to use * as 'multiply' instead of x? I know i can't talk, cos i realised just how little of a life i have when i got confused trying to find a '/' on a calculator instead of a proper divide sign.