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Hahahahahahaha. Hong Kong Has Got A Silver Medal. :d:d:d:d:d:d:d

Why do you say that like it's a slap in our faces or something? Good for you, good for Hong Kong. I'm glad to see that China still allows Hong Kong to compete independently.

What event?

Yeah--no kidding. Don't keep us in suspense--what event?

Men's doubles Table Tennis.

why does hong kong have a team?

Men's doubles Table Tennis.

YES!

why does hong kong have a team?

Why not?

Men's doubles Table Tennis.
Cool. Yay Hong Kong.

Hahahahahahaha. Hong Kong Has Got A Silver Medal. :d:d:d:d:d:d:d

Congratulations. By the way, I have a friend who lives in Hong Kong. :p

Out of curiousity, who got gold and bronze? (i'm not following the olympics very much)

Out of curiousity, who got gold and bronze? (i'm not following the olympics very much)

China got the gold and Denmark the bronze.

Why not?

cause there kinda not a country. there part of China. Thats like having a New York team at the olympics.

cause there kinda not a country. there part of China. Thats like having a New York team at the olympics.

Hey, what about Puerto Rico?

haha New Zealand won a medal too, but it was gold!! us > j00.


Actually we're going to get a second medal tonight :D Sarah Ulmer managed to get her world record back after losing it briefly in qualifying and is now guarantied gold or silver in the individual pursuit final :D

haha New Zealand won a medal too, but it was gold!! us > j00.


Actually we're going to get a second medal tonight :D Sarah Ulmer managed to get her world record back after losing it briefly in qualifying and is now guarantied gold or silver in the individual pursuit final :D

Finally. I was beginning to wonder what happened to you guys :)

Hey, what about Puerto Rico?

Not a country there a possesion.

Not a country there a possesion.

But they compete independently of the US.

Not a country there a possesion.

Exactly. If Puerto Rico gets to be there, so should Hong Kong.

But they compete independently of the US.

They shouldnt have a team. They should be part of the U.S. team.

Exactly. If Puerto Rico gets to be there, so should Hong Kong.

Not exactly the same thing...Hong Kong was formerly a British Possession, but was given back to Mainland China rather recently. It is now a part of China proper, not an outside possession.

They let Hong Kong have their own team, but Taiwan has to be called Chinese Taipei??

What the hell is up with that?

Go Hong Kong! Go New Zealand! :D
What did New Zealand win in?

Not exactly the same thing...Hong Kong was formerly a British Possession, but was given back to Mainland China rather recently. It is now a part of China proper, not an outside possession.

They let Hong Kong have their own team, but Taiwan has to be called Chinese Taipei??

What the hell is up with that?

Because Taiwan doesn't call itself Taiwan. They call themselves the Republic of China. Taiwan is what people outside of Taiwan call them. So, to differentiate between the China most people think of (The People's Republic of China) and the China that Taiwan thinks of itself as (The Republic of China), they call Taiwan China-Taipei.

Go Hong Kong! Go New Zealand! :D
What did New Zealand win in?

Women's Double Sculls. It's a rowing event. They got gold.

it might have been part of the 99 year trade when the olympics are created hong kong get a team?any way the peoples republic of china is the illegal nation Taiwan is the home of the true chinese leaders chiang kai shek.

it might have been part of the 99 year trade when the olympics are created hong kong get a team?any way the peoples republic of china is the illegal nation Taiwan is the home of the true chinese leaders chiang kai shek.

The Nationalists lost a Civil War.

Because Taiwan doesn't call itself Taiwan. They call themselves the Republic of China. Taiwan is what people outside of Taiwan call them. So, to differentiate between the China most people think of (The People's Republic of China) and the China that Taiwan thinks of itself as (The Republic of China), they call Taiwan China-Taipei.

I know this much, it doesnt really mean anything. It should be able to call itself the Republic of China...

It was because of Chinese lobbying to the Olympic Committee. If the PRC didn't say anything Taiwan would be able to compete under what ever name it likes, be that Taiwan, the Republic of China, or Formosa.

Taiwan wasn't allowed to compete unless it assumed that name...

They couldn't even use their own flag...

hey monkeypimp would you call this campaign a success with two golds?

it might have been part of the 99 year trade when the olympics are created hong kong get a team?any way the peoples republic of china is the illegal nation Taiwan is the home of the true chinese leaders chiang kai shek.

Chiang was a dictator too, don't forget.

it might have been part of the 99 year trade when the olympics are created hong kong get a team?any way the peoples republic of china is the illegal nation Taiwan is the home of the true chinese leaders chiang kai shek.
Taiwan is Taiwan.
China is China.

The Nationalists lost a Civil War.

Yes, and few even realize that Chiang Kai-shek was the same, if not more oppressive than the Communists. It is regardless though, that is like Britian preventing America from competing as the United States, and forcing them to use a flag of the commonwealth.

I know this much, it doesnt really mean anything. It should be able to call itself the Republic of China...

It was because of Chinese lobbying to the Olympic Committee. If the PRC didn't say anything Taiwan would be able to compete under what ever name it likes, be that Taiwan, the Republic of China, or Formosa.

Taiwan wasn't allowed to compete unless it assumed that name...

They couldn't even use their own flag...

You're right, but looking at it from China's point of view Taiwan is a breakaway province. If California broke away from the US, we wouldn't want them to compete under the name "United States of America" any more than China wants Taiwan competing under the name China. It's enough of an affront to the PRC that Taiwan is even allowed to compete.

Yes, and few even realize that Chiang Kai-shek was the same, if not more oppressive than the Communists. It is regardless though, that is like Britian preventing America from competing as the United States, and forcing them to use a flag of the commonwealth.

He was alot more corrupt. He sucked the peasants dry to feed himself and his party. That's why Mao had the support of the rural areas in the civil war.

You're right, but looking at it from China's point of view Taiwan is a breakaway province. If California broke away from the US, we wouldn't want them to compete under the name "United States of America" any more than China wants Taiwan competing under the name China. It's enough of an affront to the PRC that Taiwan is even allowed to compete.

I know, I really don't want to debate the legality of the state of Taiwan, but I just think it goes against everything the Olympics stands for.

Peace, understanding between nations. Its a time when we put down hostilities, and forget grievances to just participate in sports.

The Korean team got it right, at least.

Not exactly the same thing...Hong Kong was formerly a British Possession, but was given back to Mainland China rather recently. It is now a part of China proper, not an outside possession.

The date of turnover was in 1997. Ah I remember it well... Hong Kong was probably my most favorite place to visit prior to that. I met the "Scottish" rugby team, 7's I believe they called the tourney, in a small pub called Ned Kelly's Last Stand. I was able to beat one of the members in arm wrestling.. but only because he had already defeated 5 other guys I was with.

::sniff sniff:: Those were good times :D

The Korean team got it right, at least.

Do they compete together or something?

Do they compete together or something?

One olympic team for the two Koreas. They came in to the games holding hands.

They plan a joint team for 2008 Beijing too.

hey monkeypimp would you call this campaign a success with two golds?

Not really, I thought some of our other rowers might have done a bit better, but I guess they all made the finals. Our basketball team has an outside shot at getting to the next round still, after we beat the world champs :D

The Olympics are supposed to be a time for peace and celebrating sports achievements. Most of the time, it is. However, take a look at the native Greek crowds. Since their best athletes were forced out, there seems to be practically no interest in the Olympics from the Greeks.

The American soccer team was scared by a few 'suspicious-looking people' on Crete recently, and reported them to the police as being suspicious.

It turns out that they were IOC anti-doping officials.

What are the Americans trying to hide? ;)

Considering that a large portion, if not a majority, of the Greek competitors are actually Americans citizens, some even 4th or 5th generation with some bit of Greek lineage in them, it doesnt really mean much.

And shouldn't it be "Best athlete" ?

If the Greek crowds seem out of many of the games its because they don't have any real representatives.

and i thought nobody would reply...hahahahahahahahaha!

table tennsi: men's doubles

1st: China
2nd: Hong Kong
3rd: Denmark (BEATING CHINA!!!)

anyway, all the flags going up were red...

hong kong gets to compete under the name: hong kong, china. we acknowledge we are chinese.

taiwan competes under the name: chinese taipei, a name agreed by both beijing and taipei. at least we still agree taiwan is part of china, not a separate country. taiwan is part of china, but of course that doesn't mean taiwan is part of the chinese communist regime. therefore, a status quo should be maintained as long as taiwan does not proclaim the island as a separate country. it can, however, continue to claim that the nationalist government is the only legitimate government for china, that the mainland is only occupied by rebels. unless the mainland is democratised or taiwan is communised, i don't see a way out of the dispute.

unless the mainland is democratised or taiwan is communised, i don't see a way out of the dispute.

Don't be too upset about it, neither can anyone else in the world...

He was alot more corrupt. He sucked the peasants dry to feed himself and his party. That's why Mao had the support of the rural areas in the civil war.
yeah but the brits admitted that they had lost the colonies.in the end just blame the chinese Warlords.

ive seen korean teams under the name of south korea competing but not north maybe they marched together but not compete?

Don't be too upset about it, neither can anyone else in the world...

as long as they don't have a war, i'm fine with it.

You do not have to be an independent nation to compete in the Olympics. Hence HKC, Taipei, Monaco, and the Netherlands Antilles competing. It's fine as long as they're self-governing (with or without influence from their mother nations), which is why the likes of the Isle Of Man or Gibraltar don't compete.

Korea are actually competing as two teams, however in recent Olympics have paraded together in the Opening Ceremony.

FACT: Technically, Scotland could apply and be accepted for IOC membership independent of Britain.

PS: Five gold medals - and we're STILL behind South Korea.

Korea are actually competing as two teams, however in recent Olympics have paraded together in the Opening Ceremony.


Yeah, they paraded together, and have a single (is it ping-pong?) team.

They should be joint in 2008.

Yeah, they paraded together, and have a single (is it ping-pong?) team.

They should be joint in 2008.



Nah, ping pong is the Yank name for it. I don't think the IOC would be too keen on ping pong as a sport anyway(it sounds stupid).

Australia still wins the most medals per capita.

Australia still wins the most medals per capita.

Italy has the absolutely evil combination of 6 gold, 6 silver, and 6 bronze, however.

haha New Zealand won a medal too, but it was gold!! us > j00.


Actually we're going to get a second medal tonight :D Sarah Ulmer managed to get her world record back after losing it briefly in qualifying and is now guarantied gold or silver in the individual pursuit final :D
I hope she wins. It'll make up for the lousy All Blacks as of late. Probably be our only two medals though :(
While it's great HK getting a silver, the two were originally from the Mainland and only moved to HK cause China kept picking the other guys over them.

<Chiang Kai Shek> sucked the peasants dry to feed himself and his party.
That brought up the most disturbing of mental visions. Could you pls be a bit more careful in your use of synomyns in future ;)

Well congratulations... or something... we're third in Judo :)

Congrats on Hong Kong winning gold! Congrats also to New Zealand. I didn't get a chance to see much of the games the past couple of days - so I missed the matches.

Hahahahahahaha. Hong Kong Has Got A Silver Medal. :d:d:d:d:d:d:d
Yay.

Hahahahahahaha. Hong Kong Has Got A Silver Medal. :d:d:d:d:d:d:d

HAHA! America has a ton of GOLD medals. suck on it.

Yeah, they paraded together, and have a single (is it ping-pong?) team.

They should be joint in 2008.

Of course, you guys have 2006 to worry about first...

Congratulations!

There should be medal for 4th place, Canada would have like 28984 medals :mad:

Well Canada has THREE medals. Two silver and a bronze. Bronze(women's synchronized diving) silver (women's trampoline) and silver (men's fours rowing)

Well Canada has THREE medals. Two silver and a bronze. Bronze(women's synchronized diving) silver (women's trampoline) and silver (men's fours rowing)

I know, but with the number of 4th place we had, we would probably have more medals than USA. We so suck :(

Dragons Bay,

Congratulations to Hongkong, China. I´ve met people from Taiwan once at an English-course in Cambridge (Britain). They said that they consider Taiwan as part of China and are against the declaration of independence.
After all: the fact that there are two chinese states don´t create two chinese nations and two chinese nationalities.
We had this dispute in Germany as well. The East German government claimed that an demanded that the "permanent representatives between boths states" should be called ambasies and that the Federal Republic (West Germany) should recognise the citizenship of the GDR (East Germany).
That was of course rejected by the Federal Republic till the end.
I therefore can understand the position of the PR China to oppose a declaration of independence. Taiwan shouldn´t do that. But PR China should accept the status quo and should exclude the use of force to change it (as long as it isn´t changed by Taiwan).
By the way: interestingly Korea has again formed one team for the Olympic games (like in 2000). A positive sign in the otherwise very difficult situation on the peninsula. In the long-run - I´m shure the two Koreas are coming together. But it is certainly going to need a long time till the communists regime in North Korea changes and ends.
Germany actually also had one Olympic team till 1968. Only from 1972-90 there were two olympic teams.

Mmmm.. and the US has 20 gold, 17 silver and 12 bronze :p

HAHA! America has a ton of GOLD medals. suck on it.

*snort*

china's right behind you at 20 golds. shame on you, 'cause china has just begun the olympics in the 1970s, and is now catching up to world standard.

plus your basketball team lost to, of all territories, your own, plus the east european nation of lithuania.

and then your shooting guy either shot the wrong target or didn't check his gun properly, and he just gave the gold medal away to china! :D

suck on THOSE!

I hope she wins. It'll make up for the lousy All Blacks as of late. Probably be our only two medals though :(
While it's great HK getting a silver, the two were originally from the Mainland and only moved to HK cause China kept picking the other guys over them.


She did it :D After loosing and regaining her world record during qualifying, she felt the need to add another 2 seconds to the record in the final. We're 24th= with 2 golds :D No other medals yet.

HAHA! America has a ton of GOLD medals. suck on it.

America: 280million people
Hong Kong: Not even a million.

YOU HAVE FAILED.

America: 280million people
Hong Kong: Not even a million.

YOU HAVE FAILED.
Hong Kong: 7 million...

Okay, let me clarify something -
Korea are competing seperately as South (who've got a medal tally of 5-10-5 last I heard) and North (who've got a tally of 0-3-1, including a silver in Table Tennis Womens Singles from Kim Hyung-Mi)

In fact, Kim dashed Singapore's hopes of a silver, and her South Korean counterpart dashed our hopes of our first medal in 44 years (winning in the bronze medal match) :(

Not exactly the same thing...Hong Kong was formerly a British Possession, but was given back to Mainland China rather recently. It is now a part of China proper, not an outside possession.

They let Hong Kong have their own team, but Taiwan has to be called Chinese Taipei??

What the hell is up with that?

I thought Taiwan was being allowed their own team but the *couldn't* be called Chinese Taipei, and they couldn't use the Chinese flag, or have anything that ties them to China? Or is my dad just completely misinformed, and passing the ignorance on to me? :rolleyes:

AFAIK, When China was banned from the Olympics for the communist system, 'China' was Taiwan. So, when China re-entered, Taiwan took the name Chinese Taipei.

:D

New Zealand 1-2 in the Mens triathalon!!

some random was third.

That puts our medals to 4, with the K1 still to come. I think we'll finish with 5, possibly 6 medals.




Oh and the bahamas is wasting everyone in the 'medals per million'

4 million 3 gold 1 silver = priceless

4 million 3 gold 1 silver = priceless

It's 2 silvers..

Hey, what about Puerto Rico?

I always thought New York was a part of Puerto Rico :p

YAY 1 medal gold show jumping where am I?

Yes, the last couple of days has made me feel a bit better about being a Kiwi. 3 Golds and 2 silvers! Yay! :p
And to you Yanks who like to gloat about your tally, you have 70 times the population and only 10 times the golds.
China, your worse: 9 times the golds but 300 times the population.
And even if 5 medals ain't much, at least we don't give up 3/4 of the way through a rowing race (unlike some close neighbours ;) )>
Then there's the money spent on the atheletes in some of these countries. I sometimes wonder watching some of these athletes from poor countries competiting just how good they'd be with proper training, nutrition and coaching. I saw a Papua New Guinean race the other day in the 400m. He was 4 seconds behind the winner, but I was left thinking his time is probably all talent. He couldn't afford any of the extras that China or America dole out to their athletes. A year's training with the American 400m team might see him a World Champion.
I can sympathise with what the Canadian earlier on in this thread said about all their 4ths - that's the difference between part-time athletes and full-time ones.

Which brings me to another topic. Has anyone seen the Addidas ad which shows Jesse Owens running against other great athletes and getting easily beaten by Kim Collins.
I really dislike this ad, because I think it belittles Jesse Owens and his achievements. I mean if you really want to compare the two, make Collins do exactly the same training and nutrition for a year that Owens did. Make him wear the same type of clothing and shoes (I mean let's face it, one of Owens sprint spikes probably weighed more than both of Collin's shoes) and have him race on a similar surface as the 1936 Olympics.
I'd wager Owens would whip Collins easily.
I know I shouldn't get pedantic and titchy about these things but I can't help it sometimes.

yeah i heard the New zealand govt(thru acadamies etc)spent 16 million on our sports and atheletes Equistrians and sailing/yachting got 1 quater of it they got no medals.But in their defence they have garrantied us maybe 2+ medals each olympics so this time was an anomilly*

Yes I wonder why we sent Dean Barker over. Has no-one yet realised he couldn't win a yacht race in a speed boat?

yeah it didnt help with the infighting in one of the classes how one guy thought he was better so he sued or something