NationStates Jolt Archive

I heard on Mcluachlsadfin group earlier today about a certain canditate's plan to give free public college education to those who serve two years community service. I think this is a good idea. I do not mention said canditates's name because I don't want this to turn into a "<Candidate> suxxorz!!!!!11 I h4te him. :gundge: :gundge: :gundge: /<Candidate> rulezz. You just hate him cause hes not an idiot like you!!!!1" thread. God knows we have enough of those. I hope this will encourage calm, rationale debate.

If anyone knows which canditate I'm talking about, keep it quiet or I will sneak into your room at the dead of night and silently creep up on you like a cat, at which point I shall complain loudly.

If free good college education was possible I probably would, but I really don't think it is. Reduced cost I'm all for though, and it is possible. There just needs to be more funds and the people in charge of university budgets need to work towards it too. My father is a department head at a university, and the crap he has to go through to try to get more funds put into education and scholarships is ridiculous. Would you rather give funds for another sports club with 5 members, or to the actual education? You'd be surprised how many people within universities would go for the first option, mostly from outside pressure too (parents, public, etc.).

(This is public university I'm talking about, don't know about private)

If free good college education was possible I probably would, but I really don't think it is. Reduced cost I'm all for though, and it is possible. There just needs to be more funds and the people in charge of university budgets need to work towards it too. My father is a department head at a university, and the crap he has to go through to try to get more funds put into education and scholarships is ridiculous. Would you rather give funds for another sports club with 5 members, or to the actual education? You'd be surprised how many people within universities would go for the first option, mostly from outside pressure too (parents, public, etc.).

(This is public university I'm talking about, don't know about private)

Private universities tend to be even worse, because there's less government interference saying where money has to go. They can bend over even more to sports groups than public universities do.

Private universities tend to be even worse, because there's less government interference saying where money has to go. They can bend over even more to sports groups than public universities do.

That's sad. :(

I could go for free college. I'm now beginning the application process to them and they are expensive. It would be nice to not have to pay 35,000+ for private school or even 20,000+ for out-of-state public schools (such as UC Boulder). In state is faily affordable. University of Arizoan is about 11,000 all told for Arizona residents.

I could go for free college. I'm now beginning the application process to them and they are expensive. It would be nice to not have to pay 35,000+ for private school or even 20,000+ for out-of-state public schools (such as UC Boulder). In state is faily affordable. University of Arizoan is about 11,000 all told for Arizona residents.

Yeah, I'm going through the same thing right now. At first it doesn't seem so bad, but then you factor in books, room and board, etc. etc. and it starts to dawn on you that this is seriously expensive. lol. In state is pretty affordable, but I still know a lot of people who are having trouble coming up with the cash for it. A couple of my friend are relying heavily on getting scholarships.

Yeah, I'm going through the same thing right now. At first it doesn't seem so bad, but then you factor in books, room and board, etc. etc. and it starts to dawn on you that this is seriously expensive. lol. In state is pretty affordable, but I still know a lot of people who are having trouble coming up with the cash for it. A couple of my friend are relying heavily on getting scholarships.

I'm mad because I'm out of state (I'm from Massachusetts and I go to the University of New Hampshire) and they just raised out of state tuition by $1500 while lowering in state tuition $1000. It's like they go out of their way to screw out of state students. I always thought that public universities wanted to increase diversity by attracting students from other parts of the country. I fail to see how raising out of state tuition will entice people to come. Anyone else notice this.

By the way, I like your location, Demonessica.

I'm mad because I'm out of state (I'm from Massachusetts and I go to the University of New Hampshire) and they just raised out of state tuition by $1500 while lowering in state tuition $1000. It's like they go out of their way to screw out of state students. I always thought that public universities wanted to increase diversity by attracting students from other parts of the country. I fail to see how raising out of state tuition will entice people to come. Anyone else notice this.

By the way, I like your location, Demonessica.

lol, thanks. ;)

Yeah, Iowa is terrible in that respect, and for a reason. The population is shrinking amongst young single people who basically move out of state as soon as they can to look for good jobs and such, meaning the state isn't growing and is losing people to other states. They try their best to make people stay in-state for college in hopes that after that they'll stay. For example, I wanted to go to the University of Minnesota, and for a while I got my hopes up that I could go because the University has tuition breaks for people from the states in the Midwest (some don't even have to pay out of state!), but all my hopes were dashed. Iowa was the only Midwestern state that refused the university's offer for reduced tuition. :(

Our university's are also really lacking in the diversity department, the University of Iowa is considered "diverse" here and it has an 87% caucaisan 69% in-state from-a-small-town student body.

I'm mad because I'm out of state (I'm from Massachusetts and I go to the University of New Hampshire) and they just raised out of state tuition by $1500 while lowering in state tuition $1000. It's like they go out of their way to screw out of state students. I always thought that public universities wanted to increase diversity by attracting students from other parts of the country. I fail to see how raising out of state tuition will entice people to come. Anyone else notice this.

By the way, I like your location, Demonessica.

In VA, the out of state cost has to equal the in-state (after figuring in taxes paid to support the school). We are being overrun with people from NJ...go to rutgers dammit...

as to the thread's topic - take out a loan like the rest of us...or work for two years and save up...