NationStates Jolt Archive


Are militias really racist?

Allanea
21-08-2004, 12:39
Now, guys like Communist Missipi have been making racist mlitia comments and his opponents were falling for it and believing real militias are as racist and anti-semitic as CM himself. Is it true?

Allanea went and found out.

The ADL reports on militias offer virtually no facts -- hard evidence, documentation -- to support the ADL's allegations that militias threaten public order. Why are the ADL's reports nearly empty of references to newspaper articles with verifiable specifics as to date, place, time, participants, etc.? The ADL's reports suggest that a tiny minority of militias is run by neo-Nazis, racists, or other bigots. Why should the doings of a tiny, nasty minority be a reason to condemn the vast majority of decent, law-abiding militia-members?

From the site of Jews For the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. - http://www.jpfo.org/jpfacts.htm


What got Commissioner Kelly's thin blue panties in such a knot was the recent announcement by Rabbi Yakove Lloyd that his Jewish Defense Group would begin nightly armed patrols of the Brooklyn neighborhoods of Borough Park and Flatbush.

http://www.gunowners.org/op0238.htm

From Rash Magazine

In fact, Rabbi Merlmstein, in his 'Ask the Rabbi' column, cooperates freely with militias, see this link here:
http://www.gunownersalliance.com/Rabbi_0005.htm

On the website of the Michigan Militia (the most famous militia group so far):

Because a well-armed citizenry is the best Homeland Security, and can better deter crime, invasion, terrorism, or tyranny...The intention of this MichiganMilitia.com website is to inform, promote and facilitate the development and training of the militia. Everyone is welcome, regardless of race, creed, color, tint, or hue; regardless of your religion (or lack thereof); regardless of your political affiliation (or lack thereof); regardless of anything else: if you are an American, who is capable of bearing arms, or wishes to support someone doing so, then you ARE the militia...

http://www.michiganmilitia.com/

The Tenessee Constitutional Militia says:

We reject any philosophy of supremacy based on race, religion or gender.
http://www.constitution.org/mil/tn/whoweare.htm

In fact, the national militia directory, in it's list of 'adversaries common to the militia' lists:

Members of hate groups

Hate groups still exist and they are suspected of recent crimes against persons and property, including the burning of black churches. There is reason to suspect collusion with elements of the Dixie Mafia and racist members of law enforcement organizations. Those who have committed crimes need to be brought to justice, and the others counseled to try to redeem them as good citizens.

http://www.constitution.org/mil/adversaries.htm


The High Desert Militia of Southern California (though I have no idea how they run a militia in california):

(In the Application form):

We go through this process to weed out any undesirables, crazies, racists, provocateurs and other undesireables.
http://www.hdmsc.org/html/enlistments/enlistment.asp

In the FAQ:

Are you guys white supremacist?

We seem to be getting asked this one alot lately. And the answer is NO!!!! NO!!!! NO!!!! We are very diversified, as an example some of our members are jewish, a few are mexican, and others are of varying ethinc backgrounds. But we have always held the belief that these misnomers are forced upon us by those in the media and the government as a way to make the population "disunited". Disunification is the goal of "political correctness", multiculturalism, and ethnic diversity. Each of these liberal ideologies seeks to separate "We the People" so that we may not stand united against our "real" common enemies. We are Americans regardless of our ethnic backgrounds and that is our unifying factor.

http://www.hdmsc.org/html/FAQ.asp

Is that sufficient?

P.S. Read this article, here: http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=1968
Dolvich
21-08-2004, 13:16
Wow Alleana, you sure have done a lot of research. Bowling for Columbine depicted militias as neo-confederate, m16 toting crazies. This makes me look at the militias in a whole new light. Kudos!
Allanea
21-08-2004, 13:22
Thanks. I will note that there's all sorts of different 'militia' groups, but as far as I know the original premise has been solid. :)
Terra - Domina
21-08-2004, 13:44
lol

so one person is a racist

that must mean that everyone associated with them is a racist

or a god damned jew
Kwangistar
21-08-2004, 13:46
Some are, some aren't, just like any other group of people.
Purly Euclid
22-08-2004, 01:27
They are allowed mostly to help protect minority rights. Of course, it doesn't take a sociologist to figure out that the more threatened a group feels, the more dangerous it becomes. Rascism, by definition, is a form of fear, and unfortunatly, they seem to be the only people taking advantage of the 2nd Amendment.
Greater Toastopia
22-08-2004, 01:34
Any word on the Janjaweed militia? I'm not quite sure they're racist yet...
Purly Euclid
22-08-2004, 01:40
Any word on the Janjaweed militia? I'm not quite sure they're racist yet...
LOL! Of course they are. They're on a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Genocide is the epitome of racism.
Allanea
22-08-2004, 16:42
Rascism, by definition, is a form of fear, and unfortunatly, they seem to be the only people taking advantage of the 2nd Amendment.


What?
Proof please.
Zaxon
23-08-2004, 15:59
Considering a militia covers most adult males in the US, as per the Constitution, I'd have to go with not evil or racist.
Dunlow
24-08-2004, 10:06
Wow Alleana, you sure have done a lot of research. Bowling for Columbine depicted militias as neo-confederate, m16 toting crazies. This makes me look at the militias in a whole new light. Kudos!

Yeah, but Michael Moore has the same type of mentality. Only he has a camera and a whole lot of cheeseburgers in his hands instead of guns. :sniper: