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Which was better: the original Democratic Party or the original Republican Party?

Roach-Busters
20-08-2004, 22:26
I'd have to say the Democratic Party. They started out good. They were once the party of the people, the party of limited government, states' rights, etc. The Republican Party, on the other hand, was born bad. Our first communist President, Abe Lincoln, was also our first Republican President.
Roach-Busters
20-08-2004, 22:37
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Free Soviets
20-08-2004, 22:41
Our first communist President, Abe Lincoln, was also our first Republican President.

lincoln was no communist, though i'm sure the socialist revolutions in europe were somewhat on his mind, as were the objectively shitty conditions of industrial capitalism for most people.
Roach-Busters
20-08-2004, 22:43
I don't mean the type of communism many NS players are thinking of, but Stalin's brand of communism. Were Lincoln alive in the 20th century, most likely he would be an officer in the KGB.
The Black Forrest
20-08-2004, 22:48
The original republican party.

The current one is nothing like it.

The Dixicrats moved in.....

Lincoln in the KGB? Hardly.

Now Lee? That's a possibilty.
Roach-Busters
20-08-2004, 22:53
The original republican party.

The current one is nothing like it.

The Dixicrats moved in.....

Lincoln in the KGB? Hardly.

Now Lee? That's a possibilty.

Lee was a devout Christian, a gentleman, a humane person, staunchly anti-slavery, and refused to bring the Confederate Army down to the Union Army's level.

Lincoln, on the other hand...

Launched a military invasion without the consent of Congress;
Suspended habeus corpus;
Illegally imprisoned thousands of Northern citizens just for disagreeing with him;
Censored all telegraph communications and imprisoned dozens of opposition newspaper publishers;
Nationalized the railroads;
Used federal troops to interfere with elections;
Confiscated firearms;
Deported Clement L. Vallangigham, an opposition member of Congress, for disagreeing with Lincoln's income tax proposal.

And (this has nothing to do with Lincoln being a communist, but it's worth mentioning) he was a white supremacist.
Roach-Busters
20-08-2004, 22:57
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Superpower07
21-08-2004, 02:03
I'd go with the original Dems
Roach-Busters
21-08-2004, 03:24
Same here.

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Greater Valia
21-08-2004, 03:27
Whig!!!
Roach-Busters
21-08-2004, 03:28
Whig!!!

Sorry, but that wasn't one of the options.
Purly Euclid
21-08-2004, 03:30
I'd have to say the original Republican, if only because of their desire to reintergrate the Union.
Greater Valia
21-08-2004, 03:32
Sorry, but that wasn't one of the options.

I see an option for other, and in parenthesis(sp?) next to it I see please specify. So I guess it is an option isnt it?
Roach-Busters
21-08-2004, 03:33
I see an option for other, and in parenthesis(sp?) next to it I see please specify. So I guess it is an option isnt it?

True, but it doesn't answer the poll's question.
Greater Valia
21-08-2004, 03:35
True, but it doesn't answer the poll's question.

Then why did you include a irrelevant(sp?) option?
Roach-Busters
21-08-2004, 03:40
Then why did you include a irrelevant(sp?) option?

In case someone's opinion didn't match the other choices (example: "I think they were both born evil, but [insert name here] became good later one!" or "I think they both started out just as good!")
Greater Valia
21-08-2004, 03:42
In case someone's opinion didn't match the other choices (example: "I think they were both born evil, but [insert name here] became good later one!" or "I think they both started out just as good!")

Theres already an option that says they both sucked, so why not instead of other have one that said they were both good?
Roach-Busters
21-08-2004, 03:47
Theres already an option that says they both sucked, so why not instead of other have one that said they were both good?

I wasn't thinking at the time. Good point.
Roach-Busters
21-08-2004, 04:51
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GrayFriars
21-08-2004, 05:28
THe parties did do a little fip-flop in the early 20th century though...
Roach-Busters
21-08-2004, 05:33
THe parties did do a little fip-flop in the early 20th century though...

Indeed.
Kerubia
21-08-2004, 05:43
Stop bumping this thread.
Roach-Busters
21-08-2004, 05:46
Stop bumping this thread.

Fine! :mad:

(Just kidding; seriously, though I'll stop)
Von Witzleben
21-08-2004, 05:48
King George was the best.
GrayFriars
21-08-2004, 06:18
King George was the best.
which one?
Josh Dollins
21-08-2004, 07:13
bravo roach!

Yes I'd have to agree and say the dems but I've liked many republicans and of the two would definetly choose the republicans these days.
Arcadian Mists
21-08-2004, 09:02
I respect the origional republican party, simply because they're the first and only 3rd party to ever win an American Presidental election.