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Thank god for the BBC:

http://www.bushflash.com/wmf/beeb.mp3

http://www.bushflash.com/quicktime/hypo.mov

Thank God for non-corporate media.

You also forgot CBC... ^_^ which is equally as good, although I like the BBC for covering world news.

What exactly is the point of these pictures? I can't make out what exactly is in them which is at all important.

On the contrary, while I'm certain the BBC logo isn't on American news (it's not good business to promote competitors), the other picture most certainly is, in more detail of course, it's an attack helicopter, using a similar targeting system, to gun down 3 soldiers just off a desert road.

What exactly is the point of these pictures? I can't make out what exactly is in them which is at all important.

The valiant liberators at work. But I understand that patriotism is the act of being blinded by ones Government - so I'll excuse your denial to admit the War was wrong.

Who knows how much hatred has been stirred up in that region?

When will the next 9/11 happen, not if.

The valiant liberators at work. But I understand that patriotism is the act of being blinded by ones Government - so I'll excuse your denial to admit the War was wrong.

You really should have put deliberate sarcastic emphasis on the second and third words.

Who knows how much hatred has been stirred up in that region?

When will the next 9/11 happen, not if.
Hmn... a lot?
And...when we least expect it! Which is...whenever...

The valiant liberators at work. But I understand that patriotism is the act of being blinded by ones Government - so I'll excuse your denial to admit the War was wrong.

Who knows how much hatred has been stirred up in that region?

When will the next 9/11 happen, not if.

You see, in a war, your objective is to kill the enemy, becuase this enemy has guns too, or they will kill you with their guns.

You haven't established at all how your photos prove, or even imply, that the Iraq war is wrong. You are right, perhaps the helicopter pilot ought to get out and attack them personally to give them a fighting chance. How naive. And I fail to see how a logo is all that important, either. We do get BBC radio and TV (in some places) here you know, and our news organizations are world-class, however you like to stereotype them.

You haven't established at all how your photos prove, or even imply, that the Iraq war is wrong. You are right, perhaps the helicopter pilot ought to get out and attack them personally to give them a fighting chance. How naive. And I fail to see how a logo is all that important, either. We do get BBC radio and TV (in some places) here you know, and our news organizations are world-class, however you like to stereotype them.
While I'm against the war, you do make a very good point, and I'm inclined to agree with you on principle, since there is no explanation provided, just two obsecure pictures.

You see, in a war, your objective is to kill the enemy, becuase this enemy has guns too, or they will kill you with their guns.

Except most of the 'enemy' were in the army via forced conscription, or to get some cash to feed thier kids (The Sanctions meant The Army was really the only place to make some money). I'm surprised at your hatred of Arabs - I really thought that sort of thing went away a long time ago. But of course, in your mind, most arabs 'Agreed with the War'. Pity The Americans can't change the fact in Time Magazine poll run earlier this year - 79% percent of Europeans (A sample of 350 from each country) said they thought the US was the biggest threat to World peace. But of course, you can do what you want, regardless of International Law. And Osama is probably thanking the Gods that you invaded two new Muslim countries, heavens knows what kind of support it stirred up for him (when preivously he was viewed as an outsider). Oh and who can forget your 'with us or against us' speech, when he basically alienated the entire Arabic World.

But don't blame us ('The Pinko Commie Liberal Euro Trash') When Osama strikes vengeance on one of America's cities.

Except most of the 'enemy' were in the army via forced conscription, or to get some cash to feed thier kids (The Sanctions meant The Army was really the only place to make some money).

They were still the enemy, with good incentive to kill you first, that is what war is.

I'm surprised at your hatred of Arabs - I really thought that sort of thing went away a long time ago.

Ok, how the hell did you pull that one out of your ass, I could've been talking about Hurtgen Forest or Verdun for all you know.

But of course, in your mind, most arabs 'Agreed with the War'.

I don't know what most Arabs thought, I only know what I think, and that is I did not agree with the war, but your pictures don't prove a point.

Pity The Americans can't change the fact in Time Magazine poll run earlier this year - 79% percent of Europeans (A sample of 350 from each country) said they thought the US was the biggest threat to World peace.

Hell, I'm American, and even I think that.

But of course, you can do what you want, regardless of International Law.

But don't blame us ('The Pinko Commie Liberal Euro Trash') When Osama strikes vengeance on one of America's cities.

We didn't.... we blamed them.

My, that was silly, using a Time magazine poll of Europeans when you were discussing what Arabs thought. And, BTW, I have a subscription to Time magazine, as well as several other newsmagazines. The most recent one had a nice picture of some of the big cats IIRC (inside an article dealt with their poor situation, and even though I suually skip the environmental articles this one interested me). My point is that someone can be completely informed and still arrive at a different conclusion from you. So get off your high horse and use your brain and don't accuse someone of anti-Semitism for no reason that I can discern.

My, that was silly, using a Time magazine poll of Europeans when you were discussing what Arabs thought. And, BTW, I have a subscription to Time magazine, as well as several other newsmagazines. The most recent one had a nice picture of some of the big cats IIRC (inside an article dealt with their poor situation, and even though I suually skip the environmental articles this one interested me). My point is that someone can be completely informed and still arrive at a different conclusion from you. So get off your high horse and use your brain and don't accuse someone of anti-Semitism for no reason that I can discern.

Most Europeans were anti-war, it was a fact.

God I love the BBC, keep on spewing out the truth - and we'll leave the American Right to watch thier corporate crap.

Most Europeans were anti-war, it was a fact.

God I love the BBC, keep on spewing out the truth - and we'll leave the American Right to watch thier corporate crap.

Did I ever dispute that? My point was that you brought up Europeans, a people from a completely different continent, when you were talking about Arabs. At what point did what Europe thought become relevant to the discussion?

Most Europeans were anti-war, it was a fact.

Bad move, using the word was (it's past tense). And whether or not Europeans are anti-war really has no bearing at all on this thread, of who's point we still haven't discerned. And it is well-known the majority of Europeans are against the Iraq War, no one here has said they aren't.

God I love the BBC, keep on spewing out the truth

Why do you so whole-heartedly believe the BBC, do you follow around all of their crews and make sure they report 100% correct. In fact, take out the word BBC and put FCN there, and that is the exact same statement a lot of Americans make.

and we'll leave the American Right to watch thier corporate crap.

Have fun

Most Europeans were anti-war, it was a fact.

God I love the BBC, keep on spewing out the truth - and we'll leave the American Right to watch thier corporate crap.


We will leave you Europeans to watch your state-run crap. The BBC and CBC are know liars about the Iraq war, and that is obvious.

We will leave you Europeans to watch your state-run crap. The BBC and CBC are know liars about the Iraq war, and that is obvious.

And we will leave you to watch corporate owned bullshit that has a vested interest in keeping Governments with right wing agendas in power. What other obligations to the public does it have apart from 'to deliver a profit to its shareholders' - A perfect example of why The Sword and The Shield's much loved 'Totally Free Market' theory does not work - In hypotheticals, those right wing economists say that it would 'regulate itself because the public would choose to watch the news reports that they believe are the most truthful' - WRONG! People watch the News Services that tell them what they want to hear.

Now get back to your trailer.

We will leave you Europeans to watch your state-run crap. The BBC and CBC are know liars about the Iraq war, and that is obvious.
And please provide some truth for these claims if you are going to claim them to be absolute fact.

http://www.reengage.org/imageLibrary/jpeg150/132.jpg

And we will leave you to watch corporate owned bullshit that has a vested interest in keeping Governments with right wing agendas in power.

Hey, it's your life.

- A perfect example of why The Sword and The Shield's much loved 'Totally Free Market' theory does not work

What!? Do I know you IRL or something, Total Free Market??? I've never believed in that theory of economics, and am in favor of stronger government regulations, what the hell makes you presume to know my political leanings so well. (Do you know my name as well?)

In hypotheticals, those right wing economists say that it would 'regulate itself because the public would choose to watch the news reports that they believe are the most truthful' - WRONG! People watch the News Services that tell them what they want to hear.

You really shouldn't completely trust any news source, the only thing you should completely trust is what you see yourself. And yes, people watch the news services that tell them what they want to hear, all news services are based around this idea of marketing to it's audience.



Now get back to your trailer.

I had to live in one of those once (house got knocked down by a tree), far too cramped for my lifestyle, and I had no room for my history books, oh it was horrible.

Tourkophagos how old are you? You should stop being so rude and hostile and try showing some tact.

The BBC and CBC are know liars about the Iraq war, and that is obvious.If they're "known liars" about the Iraq war it should be easy enough for you to demonstrate. Give specific examples please.

Thank god for the BBC:

http://www.bushflash.com/wmf/beeb.mp3

http://www.bushflash.com/quicktime/hypo.mov

Thank God for non-corporate media.

Not to be picky but are you saying that the British Broadcasting Corporation is non-coporate?